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Noctua Releases Offset Mounting for AMD AM5 Processors
Noctua today announced the availability of its new offset mounting bars for installing Noctua CPU coolers on AMD AM5 processors. By offsetting the heatsink 7 mm towards the south side of the socket, more pressure is applied right above the CPU's CCD(s). This improved contact exactly at the processor's hotspot can significantly reduce CPU temperatures with typical improvements in the range of 1-3°C.
"We have experimented with offset mountings ever since AMD introduced its first chiplet processors that had the hotspot shifted towards the south side of the socket, but on AM4, we only saw relatively small improvements in the range of 0.5-1°C", says Roland Mossig (Noctua CEO). "With the new AM5 platform and its different heat-spreader design, we managed to achieve typical improvements in the range of 1-3°C, so we think that this will be a very interesting performance upgrade for Ryzen 7000 users!"AMD's latest Ryzen processors have their Core Complex Die(s) not at the centre, but slightly towards the south side of the CPU. By shifting the heatsink right above the hotspot created by the CCD(s) and applying optimal contact pressure where it matters the most, thermal performance can often be improved significantly.
While the results can vary due to different heat flux densities, tolerances of both the CPU and heatsink as well as other factors such as thermal paste application, the offset mounting can yield significant improvements with typical reductions in core temperatures ranging between 1 and 3°C on high-end AM5 processors. These gains can be used to let the CPU run cooler, to achieve higher boost clock frequencies or to reduce fan speeds and noise levels.
While primarily designed for AM5, the offset mounting bars can also be used on AM4, where they may yield slight improvements on Ryzen 5000 and 3000 series processors. However, the improvements when using the offset mounting position on these CPUs tend to be much smaller, typically <1°C instead of the 1-3°C gains that can be achieved on AM5.
There are different sets of offset mounting bars for different coolers depending on their mounting pitch (83 mm vs. 78 mm) and basic architecture (e.g. single tower coolers require mounting points east and west of the socket for optimal orientation, dual tower coolers require mounting points north and south of the socket):
The new offset mounting bars will be available as of today via Noctua's website or Amazon for a service charge of EUR 3.90 (website form) or EUR/USD 4.90 (Amazon) that helps to cover parts of the shipping and handling costs.
While the NM-AMB12, NM-AMB14 and NM-AMB15 bars for current cooler models are already in stock, NM-AMB13 that are required for legacy models will be ready to order within 1-2 weeks.
Noctua is also currently updating all its multi-socket CPU cooler models to include the new offset mounting bars. While availability will vary between models and countries, the first coolers that already include the offset mounting bars should start to become available by Q4.
"We have experimented with offset mountings ever since AMD introduced its first chiplet processors that had the hotspot shifted towards the south side of the socket, but on AM4, we only saw relatively small improvements in the range of 0.5-1°C", says Roland Mossig (Noctua CEO). "With the new AM5 platform and its different heat-spreader design, we managed to achieve typical improvements in the range of 1-3°C, so we think that this will be a very interesting performance upgrade for Ryzen 7000 users!"AMD's latest Ryzen processors have their Core Complex Die(s) not at the centre, but slightly towards the south side of the CPU. By shifting the heatsink right above the hotspot created by the CCD(s) and applying optimal contact pressure where it matters the most, thermal performance can often be improved significantly.
While the results can vary due to different heat flux densities, tolerances of both the CPU and heatsink as well as other factors such as thermal paste application, the offset mounting can yield significant improvements with typical reductions in core temperatures ranging between 1 and 3°C on high-end AM5 processors. These gains can be used to let the CPU run cooler, to achieve higher boost clock frequencies or to reduce fan speeds and noise levels.
While primarily designed for AM5, the offset mounting bars can also be used on AM4, where they may yield slight improvements on Ryzen 5000 and 3000 series processors. However, the improvements when using the offset mounting position on these CPUs tend to be much smaller, typically <1°C instead of the 1-3°C gains that can be achieved on AM5.
There are different sets of offset mounting bars for different coolers depending on their mounting pitch (83 mm vs. 78 mm) and basic architecture (e.g. single tower coolers require mounting points east and west of the socket for optimal orientation, dual tower coolers require mounting points north and south of the socket):
- NM-AMB12: for coolers with 83 mm mounting pitch that require mounting points north and south of the socket (e.g. NH-D15(S), NH-D14, NH-D9L, NH-C14S, NH-L9x65)
- NM-AMB13: for coolers with 83 mm mounting pitch that require mounting points east and west of the socket (e.g. NH-U12P series, NH-U9B series)
- NM-AMB14: for coolers with 78 mm mounting pitch that require mounting points north and south of the socket (e.g. NH-D12L, NH-L12S)
- NM-AMB15: for coolers with 78 mm mounting pitch that require mounting points east and west of the socket (e.g. NH-U14S, NH-U12A, NH-U12S, NH-U9S)
- For a full compatibility list, please see this FAQ. For chromax.black CPU coolers, the NM-AMB12 and NM-AMB15 are also available in chromax.black versions.
The new offset mounting bars will be available as of today via Noctua's website or Amazon for a service charge of EUR 3.90 (website form) or EUR/USD 4.90 (Amazon) that helps to cover parts of the shipping and handling costs.
While the NM-AMB12, NM-AMB14 and NM-AMB15 bars for current cooler models are already in stock, NM-AMB13 that are required for legacy models will be ready to order within 1-2 weeks.
Noctua is also currently updating all its multi-socket CPU cooler models to include the new offset mounting bars. While availability will vary between models and countries, the first coolers that already include the offset mounting bars should start to become available by Q4.
12 Comments on Noctua Releases Offset Mounting for AMD AM5 Processors
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When i bought my 1st Ryzen platform in 2017, i applied for a free AM4 mounting kit and, despite this particular cooler having been discontinued for @ least 3 years, Noctua STILL sent me the mounting kit, free of charge.
Because i didn't have the cooler's invoice, i took a picture of the board's box, the cooler and it's box (still had it):
In white (covered) are my full name and e-mail, which were required: this was enough for Noctua to send me an AM4 mounting kit.
Is Noctua an expensive brand? ABSOLUTELY. But it's details like these that make me purchase their products DESPITE their price.
Top notch custom service indeed
At least with the original D15
Yes, I'm making this up and it's probably not a reason to worry but... by now we know that miniaturisation in PC connectors has side effects all too often.
But anyway, noctua is usually very good about testing their stuff works and is ready to launch, so much so their product release timelines are always kind of a joke with constant delays :D
My guess is... All data lines from the socket go to the IOD, so they had to make a compromise and move the IOD close to the center. The CCDs are closer to the edge than the IOD is and that looks weirdly out of balance indeed. Also an oblong-shaped IOD would seem like a better fit, I don't understand why it has to be a square.
It wasn't a huge deal with AM4 with a normally sized IHS, but to maintain cooler compatibility they went and put a thicker IHS on AM5 which made this issue more relevant