TechLurkerMan, I'd love a Ryzen 5950X3D, and still am holding out a bit of hope for one. Bonus if it has better efficiency while still gaming as well as the 5800X3D.

Same here. I also want one

ChaitanyaAt this point just why? Am5 CPUs have slid down in pricing(seems like CPU mining has blown up and even 7950x is back in stock at most retailers at $550 mark) and there are even decent boards at affordable prices for the new AM5 platform along with cheap DDR5 memory. For users of old AM4 platform have quite a decent line of upgrades available for both gaming and productivity use cases.

Well lets check it out. AMD knows their audience (investors AND customers), isn't Apple, isn't stuck on some stupid tunnel vision philosophy of only pushing forward on the current thing, also they have TONS of existing product in bad need of refresh.

I'm one of the few R5 3600 holdouts that built this machine in Oct 2019 and I'm waiting for a real capstone to this socket.
What benefits are there to moving on?
What would that look like?
What does that even mean?

On July 7th 2019 the lineup for these Ryzen 3000 chips launched and it was fantastic. I could theoretically improve my VR gaming performance (frames) by finally making the jump from an FX-8370 to a superior single thread performer like this R5 3600, so after a few days of looking into X570 boards, VRM performance, the kind of PCI-E loadout I want for storage and other 3-5 years down the line, I finally chose a board, CPU, memory and NVMe. Took the Koolance CPU-300 Socket A shims that have been sitting in box since my Pentium 4 days and filed them down to fit my antique Pentium 4 block to Ryzen.

Oh yeah, and it turned out pretty good.

Not even 3 years later we got 5000 series and it's pretty much the refresh we needed but I didn't like the lineup. Enter an experimental SKU, one X3D...In current year I don't have any real reason to dump this CPU for 5000 series or AM5 unless I go into full time professional 1080p60 or 2KVR streaming and the way my storage, network and encoding philosophies are glued together, well it's a headache so that's probably not going to happen without some serious shuffling of cards and soon. A 5900X would be an instant doubling of resources for everything and has a very attractive price. Same with the 5800X3D at the expense of overclocking, which I do sort of want to retain if possible. So now there's this weird schizm in CPU performance and philosophy that puts us in an awkward Mexican standoff where I don't want to upgrade because the SKU doesn't exist and a bunch of screechy randos are waiting for AMD to drop AM4 entirely because focusing purely on AM5 is somehow good business sense when there's clearly a good chunk of us still on entry level AM4 chips???

I don't have a crystal ball for predicting what direction is best suited for my needs or others unless they're already doing what they want. Both directions for these chips are good, like REALLY good but I'm not happy with current performance and there's no guarantee that something new will fix that just yet. This means I'm very prone to choosing something that could be harmful to the way I intend to use a computer (until I jump ship to the next socket, which may be 5+ years). A 5950X just isn't in the cards at the current price and a 5900X3D would be really cool but doesn't seem to exist yet. There's a possibility of waiting to have the performance of a TRX without the workstation price tag and I'm all for it. At that point I would be happy with this build. I just want to set and forget it.

Picked up a 5600X3D here for $200, and a 5800X3D NIB on another forum for $210. They are now in SFF nr200 builds that had a 5700G and 5600 in them. Selling those recoups more than half the money. My advice is if you want a 3D V-cache model start a wanted to buy thread. I'd have probably never found them for that price shopping around, I had been looking for months. But by making it known I was looking, sellers found me.

The reason they are releasing more retail CPUs for AM4 is simple; AM4 still sells so well. It has been dominating the top 10 on Amazon U.S. by far the biggest retailer, for years now. At the moment there are 3 AM4 boards in the top 10, with an Asus Prime B450M in the top spot for $72. There are 5 5000 series in the top 10, and for the first time since the holidays started last year the 7800X3D isn't #1, it's the 5600X. Undoubtedly being bought for a serious bang for buck gaming build with that cheap B450 board. 5900x is $279.41 NIB

Laugh, cry, deny, wonder why, but AM4 will never die. :peace:

No, NO! Back to your grave! You're supposed to be dead!

In all seriousness, I am amazed that it is still going, I hope AM5 is as everlasting as AM4 has proven to be.

At worst nothing really happens, the XT prices are too high to be reasonable and the non-XT chips don't move in price.
At best non-XT chips come down in price and/or XT come in at the same price as current variants with a mild clock bump.

Minus how confusing it gets to the people who don't know I guess.

Any chance we'll get an 8 core X3D part with a lower TDP?

TechLurkerMan, I'd love a Ryzen 5950X3D, and still am holding out a bit of hope for one. Bonus if it has better efficiency while still gaming as well as the 5800X3D.

If this chip as prototyped on two X3D CCDs had been released I would not have upgraded to Raptor Lake

If there is a market for them over more E Waste I am all for it.

ChaitanyaAt this point just why? Am5 CPUs have slid down in pricing(seems like CPU mining has blown up and even 7950x is back in stock at most retailers at $550 mark) and there are even decent boards at affordable prices for the new AM5 platform along with cheap DDR5 memory. For users of old AM4 platform have quite a decent line of upgrades available for both gaming and productivity use cases.

Admittedly obscure but I don't really want to replace the motherboard and 96gb of ECC ram, but I might want to get a faster cpu.

A Computer GuyFor desktop I went from Q6600 Core2Quad (from 2009) to AM4 (R5 2600 Zen+ in 2018-ish) and skipped all that.

Same! I'm patiently waiting for the $$ confidence and occasion to upgrade my sons PC case from the old Antec P182 GunMetal I had that rig in so I can rebuild it. It's been sitting on the shelf behind my desk for a couple years now.

A Computer GuyDual x3d CCD 5950X3D would be nice for power and thermals for high thread count SFF.

If they did all 16 ores x3d I'd buy on release.

Well outside the tech based forums and Discords there are really maaaaaaany older AM4 systems out there that can be upgraded. So why not. AMD would be stupid not to refresh some stuff, easy PR and customers love upgrades long within the lifecycle.

theoutoNo, NO! Back to your grave! You're supposed to be dead!

In all seriousness, I am amazed that it is still going, I hope AM5 is as everlasting as AM4 has proven to be.

The problem is that we are very used to Intel socket really short life cycles, something that AMD completly shifted us from that mindset. Thank God! Long life AM4 !!!! :)
bought 2600, upgraded to 3700X recently ( second hand market ), and I hope to get 5800X3D when it goes to 100$ or less ... 3700X is fine for now.

I have a 3950x and I want to upgrade to 5950xt if they release one.....

tvshackerAny chance we'll get an 8 core X3D part with a lower TDP?

Lowers clocks 5700X3D.

Some seem entitled to say that this is waste of time since everyone always buys the new shiny thing the moment it's out. That's not how things work in real life, there's still plenty of us on the old socket. I'm still on the good old R5 2600, still haven't felt the need to upgrade but I'm glad that AMD keeps on giving new options. Over on Intel's side that's unheard of to have a socket with long lifecycle.

TehAlekziSome seem entitled to say that this is waste of time since everyone always buys the new shiny thing the moment it's out. That's not how things work in real life, there's still plenty of us on the old socket. I'm still on the good old R5 2600, still haven't felt the need to upgrade but I'm glad that AMD keeps on giving new options. Over on Intel's side that's unheard of to have a socket with long lifecycle.

Even if you got a 5600X you would be impressed with the uptick in performance.

Overstock is real.

kapone32Lowers clocks 5700X3D.

I was hoping for a better bin or even a node shrink (the same way they've launched zen2/zen3+ mobile cpus at 6nm).
In the case of a node shrink (or based on zen3+) it should be called 6700X3D IMO.

tvshackerI was hoping for a better bin or even a node shrink (the same way they've launched zen2/zen3+ mobile cpus at 6nm).
In the case of a node shrink (or based on zen3+) it should be called 6700X3D IMO.

You are absolutely correct

ViperXTRmy AM4 is ready for 5800XT3D (lol)

Will there be one? I'm also yet to move on the 5800x3d and would buy an 5800xt3d in a heartbeat but how likely is amd to make one?

trsttteWill there be one? I'm also yet to move on the 5800x3d and would buy an 5800xt3d in a heartbeat but how likely is amd to make one?

I doubt they could. vcache adds temps to the CCD that compromise clock speeds.

tvshackernode shrink

Nah, this is to move old dice. Not to give AM4 genuinely new processors. Not that I would complain, there are plenty of good things that could come from this.

Would replace my 2700X in my second Rig with my 5950X , and drop the 5950XT3D in my main Rig !

harm9963Would replace my 2700X in my second Rig with my 5950X , and drop the 5950XT3D in my main Rig !

Has a 5950XT with 3D V-cache been announced? I doubt it, but if that comes to pass, I'm buying another AM4 motherboard. I still have a Dominator Platinum ROG edition DDR4 kit here.