Wednesday, April 16th 2025

AMD Faces $800M Loss from U.S. Chip Export Curbs to China

AMD revealed today that it anticipates charges of up to $800 million following the Trump administration's latest crackdown on exports of advanced processors to China. The company confirmed that these new rules affect its MI308 product line. The U.S. Commerce Department declared on Tuesday that it was putting in place new licensing requirements impacting several high-performance chips, including NVIDIA's H20, AMD's MI308, and similar products. This regulatory move comes at a high price for AMD, as China stands as its second-biggest market in 2024 with about $6.23 billion in revenue, over 24% of the company's total sales.

AMD's regulatory filing reveals that the company faces $800 million in charges due to inventory issues, purchase commitments, and needed reserves. AMD "expects to apply for licenses but there is no assurance that licenses will be granted,". This uncertainty grows when we consider what Jefferies analysts pointed out on Tuesday: the U.S. has never agreed on licenses for graphics processor unit shipments to China. This news comes right after NVIDIA's announcement that it would take $5.5 billion in charges because of the same export rules. As a result, AMD and NVIDIA stocks were dropping by more than 5%.
Source: Reuters
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14 Comments on AMD Faces $800M Loss from U.S. Chip Export Curbs to China

#1
Steevo
Why are the founded in the US (AMD and Nvidia)? Cheap taxes and great IP protections.
If they want to cry about not being able to sell a product to a adversarial foreign nation, ask why they don't incorporate there.... the answer is the government there would come in with guns and force them to hand over their IP (for the good of the state of course) and then charge the same fees to sell their product to us.
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#2
Scattergrunt
Oh no, not $800M USD.



AMD can take the hit, its whatever. What I'm more worried about is how this will effect the supplies of 7500F's and 7400F's, if at all. Those are some of my favorite bargain bin CPU's that nobody knows about.
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#3
RaphaelOne
As long as the deep state in China still has a lot of power, appropriate technological restrictions are necessary. Protecting the country is more important than sales profits. @ To better understand the situation, one must look at the actions of the Chinese communist party in the US.
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#4
john_
Oh, thats too much.

Now, if we take those 5.5 billions from Nvidia and add those 800 millions from AMD, we get 6.3 billions in total. So, those 800 millions are about 12.6% of that 6.3 billions. If we consider that AMD's hardware is less expensive, let's say half the price compared to Nvidia's then AMD could be selling like 1 Instinct card for every 5 H20s Nvidia sells. Not bad. Of course Chinese are probably importing the full Nvidia models from other countries, so AMD's real percentage could be lower. Obviously I am ignoring Huawei and others. Just trying to do a wild guess at AMD vs Nvidia in China.
ScattergruntWhat I'm more worried about is how this will effect the supplies of 7500F's and 7400F's, if at all. Those are some of my favorite bargain bin CPU's that nobody knows about.
Probably they wouldn't be affected, except if US government decides to ban ALL sales in China.

What will probably be affected positively, is gaming cards. Until Nvidia and AMD manage to find new buyers for those AI accelerators, they will have a somewhat big inventory to sell. Add to that the cancellation of the manufacturing of more supply of those models affected and now they have some capacity at TSMC spare to use. Maybe there will be more capacity for gaming GPUs, at least for the next month or two?
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#5
Scattergrunt
john_Probably they wouldn't be affected, except if US government decides to ban ALL sales in China.
You know at this rate, I would expect something as stupid as that. Almost. I better not jinx it..
john_What will probably be affected positively, is gaming cards. Until Nvidia and AMD manage to find new buyers for those AI accelerators, they will have a somewhat big inventory to sell. Add to that the cancellation of the manufacturing of more supply of those models affected and now they have some capacity at TSMC spare to use. Maybe there will be more capacity for gaming GPUs, at least for the next month or two?
Ehh, optimistic maybe. I think were just gonna have to ride out this whole tradewar thing with how that effects our hobby for awhile.
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#6
MentalAcetylide
RaphaelOneAs long as the deep state in China still has a lot of power, appropriate technological restrictions are necessary. Protecting the country is more important than sales profits. @ To better understand the situation, one must look at the actions of the Chinese communist party in the US.
I'm sure the Chinese communist party has ulterior motives, but given history, you can't really blame them. Country B has resources that industries in Country A wants. Industries from Country A move in and take those resources & wealth out of Country B, which ends up supplanting Country B's industries, government, and taking away their economic clout. So you end up having a very small minority in Country A & B getting extremely rich while overall Country A benefits the most from it. Its not much different than what De Beers did in Africa with diamonds & the precious stones industry. As a nation with an inferior military/economy becomes more intertwined with other nations with superior military/economies, they become more & more subjugated by the will & policies of foreign countries.
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#7
Vayra86
SteevoWhy are the founded in the US (AMD and Nvidia)? Cheap taxes and great IP protections.
If they want to cry about not being able to sell a product to a adversarial foreign nation, ask why they don't incorporate there.... the answer is the government there would come in with guns and force them to hand over their IP (for the good of the state of course) and then charge the same fees to sell their product to us.
Grasping at straws, are we, to pre empt the obvious critique? It would be hilarious if it wasnt so sad... especially the part about government invasive actions. Did you read the news lately?
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#8
R-T-B
RaphaelOneAs long as the deep state in China still has a lot of power, appropriate technological restrictions are necessary. Protecting the country is more important than sales profits. @ To better understand the situation, one must look at the actions of the Chinese communist party in the US.
One doesn't need a "deep state" conspiracy for the CCP to have issues man.
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#9
john_
If we are going to start saying who is trying to steal what and who is bad enough this period, to want to rip off an international company, or even a whole country out of IP or resources, I am pretty sure someone from Ukraine would like to add a comment or two, but then again, we can't have politics here, so I will stop here.
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#10
Steevo
Vayra86Grasping at straws, are we, to pre empt the obvious critique? It would be hilarious if it wasnt so sad... especially the part about government invasive actions. Did you read the news lately?
I think you are trying to read too much into a comment, but please, enlighten me
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#11
Vayra86
SteevoI think you are trying to read too much into a comment, but please, enlighten me
Maybe so and if so, I'm sorry. But mentioning the issue in the context of the US and how China is so much better for not being 'loose' with rules and regulations is of course the most hilarious comment one could make today. I hope I don't need to explain that.
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#12
cal5582
Id take any amount of monetary loss to avoid the cultural death that is globalism.
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#13
blinnbanir
I have a Hi Sense TV and cannot get the USB to recognize a Wifi adapter. My Gigabyte monitor is not even Smart but has no issue recognizing it. I recently got a Moza based racing system and got a wheel with a screen. There is a program called Sim Hub that is like MSI Afterburner used to be for WIndows. My Moza screen does not work with it. What is the same? They are both Chinese companies. Why are they locking us out of our own equipment?
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#14
mrnagant
It'll hit this Q, but next Q all that product will be sold off if these exceptions don't go through. Next Q could be a bit larger than it would be otherwise as these orders get diverted to other customers.
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