Wednesday, August 27th 2008
AMD Phenom X2 Information Trickles
Time draws closer for the Athlon 64 X2 to retire. It has seen its good and bad days, leading Intel versus the Pentium D and trailing it versus the Core 2 Duo. German site Hardware Infos shed light on the primary lineup of the dual-core edition based on the K10 architecture, the Phenom X2. There are no core architectural changes for the Phenom X2, codenamed "Kuma" over the K8, except that like the Phenom X3 and X4, these chips feature 2 MB of L3 cache apart from 512 KB caches per core and the revised HyperTransport interface. The listed models come at a rated TDP of 45W. The first three Kuma chips listed have clock-speeds ranging from 1.90 GHz to 2.30 GHz and have been given model numbers that look confusing to the older PRN system AMD employed, with the top Athlon 64 X2 rated at 6400+. The later releases of the older X2 using the Brisbane core broke away from the older PRN and we saw models such as 4450e, 4850e or 4850b (note the absence of the "+").
The naming of these chips asserts that. For example, the 1.90 GHz Kuma part is named Phenom X2 GE-6400. Going by the performance evaluations of other parts based on the K10 architecture, at 1.90 GHz + the 2 MB L3 cache, this part might not be on par with the Windsor core Athlon 64 X2 6400+. Contradicting earlier reports that AMD would work out Kuma parts on the 45 nm fabrication process, all three Kuma parts reported are based on the 65 nm fab process.
The Phenom X2 GE-6400 has a clock speed of 1.90 GHz, the GE-6500 has a clock speed of 2.10 GHz and the GE-6600 even higher at 2.30 GHz. All parts feature 512 KB of L2 cache per core, a 2 MB L3 cache, HyperTransport 3.0 link speed of 1600 MHz (3200 MT/s) and rated TDP of 45W. Pricing and availability remain to be seen.
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Hardware Infos
The naming of these chips asserts that. For example, the 1.90 GHz Kuma part is named Phenom X2 GE-6400. Going by the performance evaluations of other parts based on the K10 architecture, at 1.90 GHz + the 2 MB L3 cache, this part might not be on par with the Windsor core Athlon 64 X2 6400+. Contradicting earlier reports that AMD would work out Kuma parts on the 45 nm fabrication process, all three Kuma parts reported are based on the 65 nm fab process.
The Phenom X2 GE-6400 has a clock speed of 1.90 GHz, the GE-6500 has a clock speed of 2.10 GHz and the GE-6600 even higher at 2.30 GHz. All parts feature 512 KB of L2 cache per core, a 2 MB L3 cache, HyperTransport 3.0 link speed of 1600 MHz (3200 MT/s) and rated TDP of 45W. Pricing and availability remain to be seen.
35 Comments on AMD Phenom X2 Information Trickles
To make matters worse, try comparing a Phenom to an Intel 45nm Quad at the same clock speeds and see what happens.
The Phenoms represent a decent price/performance ratio, but they are still no match for the Intels in terms of OCing and performance.
And yes, if you read the original post I quoted, someone is pretty clearly disputing that Intel is the better of the Quads.I guess you just missed that part?
And as for the thank you, I could really care less. If you want to get thanks post a bunch of anti-Intel, pro-AMD BS, that is based entirely on nothing and you will get huge thanks from all the idiotic AMD fanboys around here(as evident by mdm-adph's post).
i agree for the most part on what newtekie said, although its now turning into the usual flame war and fanboy accusations :rolleyes:
my e4300 @ 3Ghz was faster in general use than my X3 8450, i mean amd cant do superpi for shit 30+ seconds what the hells that about lol anyway....
its a very small difference imo and varys dependant on what im doing, for instance, encoding a 700mb avi file to dvd takes around the same time with my x3 as it did with my core 2, but saying that the x3 cpu usage only goes to around 80% which makes me think nero isnt fully utilising all 3 cores correctly.
now onto gaming, imo i still feel amd cpu's fair better at gaming and just feel smoother almost like there made to do just that, my fps are always constantly high and gameplay is always smooth, although its hard to prove as my e4300 was coupled with a 8800gts.
when i first built this system i was pissed off with it for the first 2 weeks and wanted to go back to intel, however now i have ironed out all the kinks and got it running how i like and overclocked at last albeit a small oc, i wouldnt want to go back to intel, besides with a name like Phenom who cares whats faster, Phenom pwns all muah hahahahaha :o