The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[Flyordie]

I keep running into BSODs at these settings...

 

[ShadowFold]

Looks like too many volts for 1ghz, or is that cnq?

 

[Flyordie]

Looks like too many volts for 1ghz, or is that cnq?

Thats CnQ.

 

[Flyordie]

Shadow, shall I show you a 300Mhz FSB?
@ 1.5-1.6V it will POST and boot into Windows at x13 Multi and a 300Mhz FSB.

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

Maybe it doesn;t like the high bus speed, have you tried 205*19?

 

[ShadowFold]

920's are locked

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

920's are locked

Sorry, I thought he had a 940.

 

[Flyordie]

Yeah, first post needs fix't.. lol
Im stable atm...
Pushing 1.4V through my NB since its cranking over at 2,380Mhz.

 

[trt740]

Guys something I notice when you run prime blend your overclocking fails more often than prime small ft. I believe this is northbridge related try it and see. I'm currently running 3.6 ghz at 12.5 x288 fsb Ht link 2016 northbridge the same and ram at ddr2 1152. This seems faster than 3.8ghz using a 200 fsb and 2000ht and NB. Also ganged memory seems a bunch faster than unganged, contrary to what I read.

Now running 12.5 x296 fsb=3.7ghz but my ram is only at DDR2 986 but with tighter timing, north bridge at 2072 and Ht link the same. It seems these chips have a hard time with higher memory clocks with the northbridge.

 

[cdawall]

i only ran 1.76v max through may chip and water clocks are not getting any higher than air clocks on phenoms right now. on air or water the chips seem to be maxing out around 3.8-4ghz (@1.5-1.55v) DICE puts them around 4.5-5ghz (@1.7-1.75v) LN2 has them close to 6ghz (@1.75v-1.8v)

 

[trt740]

i only ran 1.76v max through may chip and water clocks are not getting any higher than air clocks on phenoms right now. on air or water the chips seem to be maxing out around 3.8-4ghz (@1.5-1.55v) DICE puts them around 4.5-5ghz (@1.7-1.75v) LN2 has them close to 6ghz (@1.75v-1.8v)

Something else the AMD stability tool indicated higher clocks are stable when prime and Occt don't whats your take on that.

Now testing 12.5x300 FSB, NB and Ht link are at 2100, ram at DDR2 1000, cpu 3.750GHZ and seems to be stable. Okay this appears rock stable and a bunch faster. Widening the FSB helped a lot. Also ganged memory seems to overclock better.

 

[exodusprime1337]

well it's not stable yet... i haven't tried stability testing.. but i've been up for about 10 minutes and able to run some benches at 4.010Ghz. here is the cpu-z screeny and validation


Cpu-z Validation link

 

[Chicken Patty]

hey guys let me ask you a questions.

Any of you with Phenom II's runninga DFI board? I might just jump on a Phenom II soon. They are $200 free shipping on the egg now. So i'm getting a bit tempted. Just wondering what results you are getting. I've been following this thread, but not too closely. So I might have missed a few posts.

 

[eidairaman1]

for 1 they only really compete with the Core 2 Lineup, 2. most are only getting 3.7GHz and not the advertised 4.0-4.2, 3. if the Core i5 proves to be faster than the Phenom 2 and costs less, thats going to put AMD in a really tough spot, AMD needs to get their asses in gear and Release something that atleast competes with the Core i7, otherwise AMD is going to lose another User to Intel. At least AMD has the graphics division in the right Mindset.

 

[Kei]

Something else to consider, In my case I am running *2* 9800GTX+'s SLI

I haven't read all of your posts, but I did read that you're 'stuck' at 3.8Ghz or so on your processor.

Something you may not have considered/realized is that you may not be giving your Southbridge enough voltage with running those two graphic cards along with whatever amount of hard drives and anything else you have on the Southbridge.

It may not help you get further and then again it may, but try running your voltage to the Southbridge at 1.28v and see what happens. If that doesn't do anything for you set it back to normal and forget it. Either way you've likely got many things running on it so it's more than worth a try and it's something many people forget about...especially those with multiple graphics cards.

Kei

@ trt740

ganged memory is faster on the Phenom ONLY when running some single threaded applications. If you're running anything that's multithreaded then you are far better off running unganged mode with these processors. Even single threaded benches like SuperPi don't give much if any of a boost when running ganged mode with these processors. However if you run a benchmark/program that's truly multithreaded you will see a very real difference. Just go encode a video and you'll see

 

[Chicken Patty]

for 1 they only really compete with the Core 2 Lineup, 2. most are only getting 3.7GHz and not the advertised 4.0-4.2, 3. if the Core i5 proves to be faster than the Phenom 2 and costs less, thats going to put AMD in a really tough spot, AMD needs to get their asses in gear and Release something that atleast competes with the Core i7, otherwise AMD is going to lose another User to Intel. At least AMD has the graphics division in the right Mindset.

the AM3 Phenoms will be something to see. Already at 4GHz with 1.45v. Stable!

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

for 1 they only really compete with the Core 2 Lineup, 2. most are only getting 3.7GHz and not the advertised 4.0-4.2, 3. if the Core i5 proves to be faster than the Phenom 2 and costs less, thats going to put AMD in a really tough spot, AMD needs to get their asses in gear and Release something that atleast competes with the Core i7, otherwise AMD is going to lose another User to Intel. At least AMD has the graphics division in the right Mindset.

I'm not sure exactly what you're referencing since I didn't read every post leading up to this, but AMD never said anything about aiming to be performance king with the PII chips, that's all fanboy talk. Fact is that they actually had the Q96/750 in mind for competitive performance.
Also I don't ever remember AMD offically claiming a guaranteed 4+ Ghz, especially stable. In fact if I remember correctly it was "Possibility of 4ghz on good water." So I say that when we're all hitting between 3.75 and 3.9 stable on water that it's possible to get a 4ghz boot to windows.

 

[Flyordie]

Yeah.
AMD shouldn't of went with 37nm on the Memory controller though. Its been giving them problems... so I guess I am lucky I didn't go with AM3 yet.

 

[Chicken Patty]

I'm not sure exactly what you're referencing since I didn't read every post leading up to this, but AMD never said anything about aiming to be performance king with the PII chips, that's all fanboy talk. Fact is that they actually had the Q96/750 in mind for competitive performance.
Also I don't ever remember AMD offically claiming a guaranteed 4+ Ghz, especially stable. In fact if I remember correctly it was "Possibility of 4ghz on good water." So I say that when we're all hitting between 3.75 and 3.9 stable on water that it's possible to get a 4ghz boot to windows.

I do agree, I dont know why this was posted all of the sudden. However, I do remember seeing a couple of times that they guaranteed 4ghz on air, and upwards of 4ghz on water. I mean if you are going to guarantee this you gotta make sure you guarantee something the CPU can do stable.

 

[eidairaman1]

I'm not sure exactly what you're referencing since I didn't read every post leading up to this, but AMD never said anything about aiming to be performance king with the PII chips, that's all fanboy talk. Fact is that they actually had the Q96/750 in mind for competitive performance.
Also I don't ever remember AMD offically claiming a guaranteed 4+ Ghz, especially stable. In fact if I remember correctly it was "Possibility of 4ghz on good water." So I say that when we're all hitting between 3.75 and 3.9 stable on water that it's possible to get a 4ghz boot to windows.

SO WHY DOES CORE 2 Ramp to that speed on Air and AMD Cant? First it was AMD having trouble reaching 3.0 GHz, now its 4.0GHZ, WTF AMD. I recall in the Day the Athlon XP with its PR numbers were actually just as fast as the intels only with lower clock speeds (my 3200+ felt way faster than the 3.2GHz Prescott CPU or does the PR still hold true?) Is it because AMD is slow to adopt the DDR standards that I believe Intel keeps on bribing to be passed so they can maintain market dominance?

Also if the Core i5 is anything like the Core i7, AMD will be in really big trouble if price is lower than the slowest Phenom 2, Intel is already dropping core 2 to start preparation for a full launch of core i5.

 

[erocker]

Ladies and gents, this is the Phenom II OC'ers club. Let's keep it that way please.

 

[Darknova]

3.56Ghz stable. It's not stable at less, or higher speeds. I really hate this motherboard...

 

[eidairaman1]

well then put a Sale for that board then on Craigslist, ebay, here, amazon.com, or pricewatch.

 

[Darknova]

well then put a Sale for that board then on Craigslist, ebay, here, amazon.com, or pricewatch.

1) I need a motherboard that can run my PC, I have no others.

2) I have no steady income, I can't afford another board. Not the one I want anyway.

 

[Wile E]

3.56Ghz stable. It's not stable at less, or higher speeds. I really hate this motherboard...

TBH, no Biostar board has really impressed me all that much. I don't understand their cult-like following. Sure, they are way better than the likes of ECS and Jetway, but I think they still fall behind the likes of DFI, Asus and Gigabyte.