The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[Darknova]

TBH, no Biostar board has really impressed me all that much. I don't understand their cult-like following. Sure, they are way better than the likes of ECS and Jetway, but I think they still fall behind the likes of DFI, Asus and Gigabyte.

Yeah, same here. I took the recommendation of a friend of ours (you know who). I've been giving him s*** about it ever since. Honestly, I've never hated a motherboard as much as I hate this one. If I could replace it I would, but I'm stuck with it until I can afford to replace it.

 

[eidairaman1]

is it the bios that pisses you off or the overall quality of the board, because i was thinking of a Biostar or a Jetway Maybe. Im wary of Asus due to the bad past i had with them, DFI and MSI i am ok with, Abit ive never owned but heard they were one of the better board makers altho they are gone now (RIP)

 

[Darknova]

is it the bios that pisses you off or the overall quality of the board, because i was thinking of a Biostar or a Jetway Maybe. Im wary of Asus due to the bad past i had with them, DFI and MSI i am ok with, Abit ive never owned but heard they were one of the better board makers altho they are gone now (RIP)

Everything, the quality of the board, the support from Biostar, the BIOS. It's all horrible tbh. The BIOS is very very confusing, it's like they released a half-finished product (worse than Microsoft does). I've heard a lot of good about older Biostar boards (those using AWARD BIOSes) but these newer ones using AMI BIOSes are not good.

I'd go with DFI, Gigabyte or MSI tbh. I've had a bad RMA experience (3 times) with Asus as well, but I'm not totally adverse to going back to them.

Abit used to be good, my 939 board is absolutely brilliant, but their boards now can't compare, and they won't be releasing any newer boards, so sod em heh.

 

[Wile E]

is it the bios that pisses you off or the overall quality of the board, because i was thinking of a Biostar or a Jetway Maybe. Im wary of Asus due to the bad past i had with them, DFI and MSI i am ok with, Abit ive never owned but heard they were one of the better board makers altho they are gone now (RIP)

Give DFI or Gigabyte a shot. Both make all-around very solid boards.

 

[eidairaman1]

I dont hear much about gigabyte for OC, DFI most definitely, I know my machine is old but it's DFI that is running it.

TBH im thinking of Phenom II+ (AM3) later model parts.

Well heres a Listing of possible boards if they arent replaced 6 months from now

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products...rd&ProductID=3010&ProductName=GA-MA790XT-UD4P

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products...d&ProductID=3005&ProductName=GA-MA790FXT-UD5P

http://www.dfi.com.tw/portal/CM/cmp...g=false&action=e&windowstate=normal&mode=view

http://www.dfi.com.tw/portal/CM/cmp...g=false&action=e&windowstate=normal&mode=view

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&prod_no=1740

asus just has too many damn boards for my taste, that it seems all they do is flood the market and not work on the bios.

 

[Binge]

I'm not sure exactly what you're referencing since I didn't read every post leading up to this, but AMD never said anything about aiming to be performance king with the PII chips, that's all fanboy talk. Fact is that they actually had the Q96/750 in mind for competitive performance.
Also I don't ever remember AMD offically claiming a guaranteed 4+ Ghz, especially stable. In fact if I remember correctly it was "Possibility of 4ghz on good water." So I say that when we're all hitting between 3.75 and 3.9 stable on water that it's possible to get a 4ghz boot to windows.

I remember a lot of articles claiming 4.0ghz on air with amazing temps around 35C, but I remained skeptical. After searching through the forums I found a bunch of times when you call people fanboys and here you go again turning on people who expected more from their Phenom II. AMD promised a chip made for overclocking and enthusiasts. What did they deliver? They did it alright, but it takes LN2, phase, or pelts. I do like procs that can perform better under warmer conditions, but hey there's no cold bug to worry about

 

[Wile E]

I dont hear much about gigabyte for OC, DFI most definitely, I know my machine is old but it's DFI that is running it.

TBH im thinking of Phenom II+ (AM3) later model parts.

Well heres a Listing of possible boards if they arent replaced 6 months from now

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products...rd&ProductID=3010&ProductName=GA-MA790XT-UD4P

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products...d&ProductID=3005&ProductName=GA-MA790FXT-UD5P

http://www.dfi.com.tw/portal/CM/cmp...g=false&action=e&windowstate=normal&mode=view

http://www.dfi.com.tw/portal/CM/cmp...g=false&action=e&windowstate=normal&mode=view

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&prod_no=1740

asus just has too many damn boards for my taste, that it seems all they do is flood the market and not work on the bios.

I say the UD5P.

 

[Binge]

I say the UD5P.

+1 Gigabyte is in a good place right now with their designs and support.

 

[eidairaman1]

ya those GB Boards look like the X58 part they have, very nice color scheme, MSI seems to have a nice looking board altho im not sure how they would be for the OC.

 

[Wile E]

+1 Gigabyte is in a good place right now with their designs and support.

Yeah, they seem to have the best slot layouts as of late as well. Everyone else seems to making everything inaccessible if you use multiple double-slot cards, and even going down to 6 expansion ports instead of 7 (that's a major annoyance of mine. Why would you take a step backwards like that?)

 

[eidairaman1]

well possible choice is

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products...d&ProductID=3005&ProductName=GA-MA790FXT-UD5P

Ram is undecided- only have used Corsair, Mushkin or Crucial, Cooling will be Thermalright Copper Ultra 120.

video card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102801

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121291

(I would only go with XFX for their Lifetime warranty, Visiontek too if they had a 1GB card)
(HIS i had a bad past with on RMA (took them 2 weeks to reply to a request email) a 1950 Pro so i dont know how they are now if a part craps out, I bought the Sapphire 1950 pro and then got a new 1950 from HIS directly from RMA. Asus i'm unsure about on the RMA Process, if they have changed, I dont do RMAs thru etailers as there is no guarantee the part you get from them is good.

and

soundcard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...50011613&Description=soundcards&name=HT Omega

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829127002&Tpk=soundcards

Case will be a Full Tower (something taller, deeper, and perhaps wider than the Antec SX 830, tons of 120 MM fans, Thinking Antec, LianLi, Corsair)

Optical Drives will be Samsung Multiformat BD/HDVD/DVD RW/R+-/Ram w/ lightscribe ATA/SATA (doesnt matter)

Powersupply
PCPC
Seasonic
Enermax
Antec
Corsair

 

[Darknova]

Video card. Get the Sapphire 4870. That's the one I have, bloody brilliant card.

RAM. I really don't know, I'm looking at the same thing, DDR3 to go with an AM3 board. I'd thought about the G.Skill HZs 1600Mhz RAM, but they're quite expensive.

Power Supply. PC Power and Cooling gets my vote Corsair if you NEED modular.

 

[eidairaman1]

only reason i know about those is because ive used Antec twice (300/350 that came with the SX830 and then the NeoHE 500 which is extremely reliable, ive never had an antec quit on me. PCPC, Enermax, Corsair i hear Good Reviews on. Sapphire i trusted because their RMA process was very quick, My first Sapphire 1950 pro i got from tigerdirect quit on me in 3 days (Post Problems) so i Sent Sapphire's distro company a RMA request and they practically immediately gave me the forms needed so that puts them a notch ahead of HIS in that range altho that was 2 years ago.

 

[Chicken Patty]

I say give DFI a shot as fra as mother board. My DFI now is able to overclock my Phenom 9950 as far as my ASUS did on water. DFI setup is on factory cooler.

 

[trt740]

been nice boys but i'm outta the club

gonna try something else you know me bored easily. Here is my Black Dragon sale thread if you know anyone who needs a deal.

 

[Chicken Patty]

gonna try something else you know me bored easily. Here is my Black Dragon sale thread if you know anyone who needs a deal.

good luck with the new setup dude, at least you moved up and not down. Good luck with the sales

I'll probably be entering the club soon, once I move forward from my 9950, I wish I can just pick your CPU up, but I don't think I am ready right now. Well I am, maybe just not my wallett

 

[p_o_s_pc]

good luck with the new setup dude, at least you moved up and not down. Good luck with the sales

I'll probably be entering the club soon, once I move forward from my 9950, I wish I can just pick your CPU up, but I don't think I am ready right now. Well I am, maybe just not my wallett

want to donate your 9950 to me for folding?

 

[Chicken Patty]

want to donate your 9950 to me for folding?

:::dr. evil voice:::


for a small fee of 1.5 trillian dollars!

 

[p_o_s_pc]

:::dr. evil voice:::


for a small fee of 1.5 trillian dollars!

be willing to make me a really good deal? Im not for sure if i can even get it.

 

[cdawall]

Something else the AMD stability tool indicated higher clocks are stable when prime and Occt don't whats your take on that.

Now testing 12.5x300 FSB, NB and Ht link are at 2100, ram at DDR2 1000, cpu 3.750GHZ and seems to be stable. Okay this appears rock stable and a bunch faster. Widening the FSB helped a lot. Also ganged memory seems to overclock better.

i dont do stability testing other than games so couldn't tell you on that. as for your clocks NB is very low IMO i run mine 2800+ for 24/7

 

[Chicken Patty]

be willing to make me a really good deal? Im not for sure if i can even get it.

one of my friends already has dibbs on it. If in case he ends up not getting it, i'll let you know.

 

[trt740]

i dont do stability testing other than games so couldn't tell you on that. as for your clocks NB is very low IMO i run mine 2800+ for 24/7

okay thanks

 

[p_o_s_pc]

one of my friends already has dibbs on it. If in case he ends up not getting it, i'll let you know.

alright. just let me know bro. i don't really need it just want to go quad

 

[Assassin48]

alright. just let me know bro. i don't really need it just want to go quad

I got a 9950 BE if your intrested i also have a zalman fan that was used no more than 5hrs

 

[p_o_s_pc]

I got a 9950 BE if your intrested i also have a zalman fan that was used no more than 5hrs

i will let you know next month not really sure what i want yet