The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[Assassin48]

okay just pm me if you want it

 

[Master}{]

Im at 3500 for 24/7 running but i have hit 4ghz, will post the specs tommorrow after work, its 2 am and i just stumbled over this thread!

 

[MilkyWay]

dont know if i regret buying my new setup, my motherboard is coming this week its a sapphire 790gx btw and i already have the x3 730be

damn i feel like i shouldve waited for inter core i5, i7 is rediculously priced in the UK so that was a no go

i needed to get a new setup check my specs and you can see what i have curently untill the board arrives

 

[Darknova]

dont know if i regret buying my new setup, my motherboard is coming this week its a sapphire 790gx btw and i already have the x3 730be

damn i feel like i shouldve waited for inter core i5, i7 is rediculously priced in the UK so that was a no go

i needed to get a new setup check my specs and you can see what i have curently untill the board arrives

Phenom II is a good upgrade for what you have. I don't regret getting mine at all, and I only moved from an 8750BE.

If you keep waiting for "what's next" you'll never upgrade. They always announce the "next big thing" as soon as they release the current one.

 

[MilkyWay]

look it was either go AM2+ or get an older lga755 system and that is stupid coz its old and wont have a good upgrade path

at least i am staying with AMD and what i know

i will probly enjoy it anyway but all i see is people left and right dropping AMD for core i7 or keeping their systems for i5

 

[Darknova]

look it was either go AM2+ or get an older lga755 system and that is stupid coz its old and wont have a good upgrade path

at least i am staying with AMD and what i know

i will probly enjoy it anyway but all i see is people left and right dropping AMD for core i7 or keeping their systems for i5

i7 is the best, there's no doubt about that, but I personally can't justify spending that much on an i7 system, and my bad experience with LGA775 puts me right off.

Everyone always loves the possibility of something better coming out "just down the road", it's human nature.

Honestly though, the fact that i5 will be an entirely different socket to i7 really puts me off.

 

[ShadowFold]

I'm not getting i5 or i7. I'm probably not gonna go back to intel until AMD goes out.

 

[johnnyfiive]

AMD is awesome, everyone needs to accept it!

 

[MilkyWay]

im limping with this set up i have just now so im used to it

i see that amd buyers are all in the same frame of mind cant afford or not willing to pay for i7 due to price, they dont like or dont want to wait for i5

seems like me too i cant see the point in going i7 even if i had the cash i dont think id do it


if it dosnt pan out there is allways the option of selling it for a bit less than i bought

that 4th core unlock and BE status tempted me tho to a sale and i was like POW thats a steal

 

[Darknova]

im limping with this set up i have just now so im used to it

i see that amd buyers are all in the same frame of mind cant afford or not willing to pay for i7 due to price, they dont like or dont want to wait for i5

seems like me too i cant see the point in going i7 even if i had the cash i dont think id do it


if it dosnt pan out there is allways the option of selling it for a bit less than i bought

that 4th core unlock and BE status tempted me tho to a sale and i was like POW thats a steal

Well my last set up was an E8400 set up. Benched higher than my 8750BE, but there was no noticeable difference between them when it came to playing games etc. In fact the extra core worked in it's favour when it came to encoding video on multi-threaded applications.

However, the E8400 was no where near as stable as the 8750BE, desktop performance was smoother on the 8750BE and I get a LOT less Blue Screens (read: None when I'm not tweaking my overclock).

So I'm not prepared to pay an extortionate amount of money for a system that could give me the same problems, when with a simple £120 CPU upgrade I have a system that's better than my E8400 was.

*shrugs* seemed like the right choice to me.

 

[trt740]

I'm not getting i5 or i7. I'm probably not gonna go back to intel until AMD goes out.

I went intel and shouldn't have there is very little if any difference real world in the two

 

[Chicken Patty]

TRT I think I had told you. Real life not a big difference if any.

But in becnmarks the i7 shines bro


However as far as upgrading, I dont think the i7 is really much of an upgrade to the Phenom II unless you are strictly into benching. However put them under the cold and you got your self an AMD winner.

on a side note, it is NOT that expensive to go i7 nowadays. People still have the wrong idea of this. AMD is still cheaper, but i7 is well withing reach for a lot of folks now.

$220 for CPU, $200 for board and $80 bucks for 3gb tri channel ram. RAM has D9JNL chips, <<did I get that right.

You guys think the RAM is garbage, see this review done by our very own FIT. 1.7v 2000MHz!!!

http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=3985


At the end of the day, I think AMD did really well with the Phenom II, although the overclocking capabilities are slightly better for the i7 on your more normal conditions, water cooling, air cooling. AMD does tear a new asshole when its put under extreme Conditions

AM3 is looking good. 4GHz at 1.45v, lets see as the platform progresses how things go for AMD

 

[Darknova]

$220 for CPU, $200 for board and $80 bucks for 3gb tri channel ram. RAM has D9JNL chips, <<did I get that right.

Wow, we get ripped off. The cheapest i7 is £240. A decent motherboard will run you in excess of £210. RAM is in like though, about £60-75 for a decent 3GB set, or £100-120 for 6GB.

However, I just bought a PII for £120, Boards are around £100-110 and RAM is £30-60 depending. Quite a bit cheaper here eh? That's at least £210 cheaper, I could get a 4870 1GB for that.

 

[Chicken Patty]

Wow, we get ripped off. The cheapest i7 is £240. A decent motherboard will run you in excess of £210. RAM is in like though, about £60-75 for a decent 3GB set, or £100-120 for 6GB.

However, I just bought a PII for £120, Boards are around £100-110 and RAM is £30-60 depending. Quite a bit cheaper here eh? That's at least £210 cheaper, I could get a 4870 1GB for that.

well I talking higher end stuff. Like getting a M4A79-T mobo for the AMD. That makes it about $100 cheaper US dollars. I mean like I said, it is still more expensive. But remember when i7 first came out. I spent myself $865 to build my i7 rig, CPU, mobo and RAM. Now you need much less than that. So its not that bad no more as opposed to when i7 was first released.

 

[Darknova]

well I talking higher end stuff. Like getting a M4A79-T mobo for the AMD. That makes it about $100 cheaper US dollars. I mean like I said, it is still more expensive. But remember when i7 first came out. I spent myself $865 to build my i7 rig, CPU, mobo and RAM. Now you need much less than that. So its not that bad no more as opposed to when i7 was first released.

Oh no, I get that. If I had the money I probably would buy i7, even if just to run it side-by-side for a while.

But when money is tight, and for the same price as the i7 set up you can also get a really good video card too would you not buy that? Especially if you're not an avid bencher.

(BTW, M4A79-T is ~£150 so you'll still be able to get a 4870 )

 

[Chicken Patty]

Oh no, I get that. If I had the money I probably would buy i7, even if just to run it side-by-side for a while.

But when money is tight, and for the same price as the i7 set up you can also get a really good video card too would you not buy that? Especially if you're not an avid bencher.

(BTW, M4A79-T is ~£150 so you'll still be able to get a 4870 )

man UK is the s**t then. M4A79-T is $200 here.

I completely understand your point. i7 is just much more affordable now. THank to the research and time spent on it by some of our members here. Props to them

 

[MilkyWay]

oh how i wish i was in the USA because i would be able to afford a i7 rig right away

lets just say that darknova was right!

basic i7 rig will cost on average £450 for just cpu and motherboard, a low end gigabyte £199 and a 920 £240

while a x3 720be costs £120 and a mobo £100

so i fail to see how it is affordable oh sure its not as dear as before but DAMN that was extortion before

sure if i had £1000 to spend on a pc but who does these days?

you need to add in a good graphics card ram dvd writer case sound card(optional)hard drive power supply

everything is extortion in the UK you got it easy in the USA

 

[Chicken Patty]

oh how i wish i was in the USA because i would be able to afford a i7 rig right away

lets just say that darknova was right!

basic i7 rig will cost on average £450 for just cpu and motherboard, a low end gigabyte £199 and a 920 £240

while a x3 720be costs £120 and a mobo £100

so i fail to see how it is affordable oh sure its not as dear as before but DAMN that was extortion before

sure if i had £1000 to spend on a pc but who does these days?

you need to add in a good graphics card ram dvd writer case sound card(optional)hard drive power supply

everything is extortion in the UK you got it easy in the USA

I see your point bro, and it aint easy im with you on that one. However, it is not that bad here in the USA anymore. As far as AMD you can get it even cheaper than that.

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

I know this is the wrong place for this, but I was wondering if there was anybody here looking for a 9850 BE?

 

[HELLSPAWNPR]

Hi guys i currently have a AMD X2 5000+ BE on a MSI K9A2 CF Ver 1.0 motherboard. The rest of the componets you can read in system specs. I would like your opinion on this CPU AMD Phenom II X3 720 on my motherboard. At the moment all my games run great on my 5000+ BE COD4,5 , Left4dead, BF2142. But having a little more power for 147.00 is tempting also i might also go for the AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb for 200.00. Apreciate any advise. Game on

 

[johnnyfiive]

Definitely get a 940. That will give you the best overclocking outcome with the K9A2 since it has no NB multiplier.

 

[Darknova]

Alright guys, I need ideas for a new motherboard. I would have wanted to wait for more AM3 boards but this one is really start to grate on me.

If I go AM3 right now I'll get the Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P, but that's rather expensive atm (£160).

I've considered the Foxconn AD7A-S which means I can keep my DDR2 and I've had good luck with Foxconn in the past.

Any other ideas? I'm open to any chipsets, be them nvidia or AMD, but it must be full ATX.

 

[Chicken Patty]

alright so can I join the club now Specs to the left.


100 MHz overclock, just enjoying it

 

[cdawall]

Hi guys i currently have a AMD X2 5000+ BE on a MSI K9A2 CF Ver 1.0 motherboard. The rest of the componets you can read in system specs. I would like your opinion on this CPU AMD Phenom II X3 720 on my motherboard. At the moment all my games run great on my 5000+ BE COD4,5 , Left4dead, BF2142. But having a little more power for 147.00 is tempting also i might also go for the AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb for 200.00. Apreciate any advise. Game on

K9A2 wont oc that 940 without killing the poor mobo fets will pop on it. 720BE is a much better choice and even then look into a very good cooler for your mosfets

 

[trt740]

TRT I think I had told you. Real life not a big difference if any.

But in becnmarks the i7 shines bro


However as far as upgrading, I dont think the i7 is really much of an upgrade to the Phenom II unless you are strictly into benching. However put them under the cold and you got your self an AMD winner.

on a side note, it is NOT that expensive to go i7 nowadays. People still have the wrong idea of this. AMD is still cheaper, but i7 is well withing reach for a lot of folks now.

$220 for CPU, $200 for board and $80 bucks for 3gb tri channel ram. RAM has D9JNL chips, <<did I get that right.

You guys think the RAM is garbage, see this review done by our very own FIT. 1.7v 2000MHz!!!

http://www.realredraider.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=3985


At the end of the day, I think AMD did really well with the Phenom II, although the overclocking capabilities are slightly better for the i7 on your more normal conditions, water cooling, air cooling. AMD does tear a new asshole when its put under extreme Conditions

AM3 is looking good. 4GHz at 1.45v, lets see as the platform progresses how things go for AMD

Yes but other than benching the CPU it's self, there is zero difference. The phenom II at 3.8ghz easily maxes my 4870 1gb frame rate same as the I7 and it burns dvd and multitasks just as well. I thought I would see some real world difference but there is none. Maybe in the future, but that's just a credit to both companies.