• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Radeon HD 5870 Aggressively Priced: Report

Joined
May 19, 2007
Messages
7,662 (1.20/day)
Location
c:\programs\kitteh.exe
Processor C2Q6600 @ 1.6 GHz
Motherboard Anus PQ5
Cooling ACFPro
Memory GEiL2 x 1 GB PC2 6400
Video Card(s) MSi 4830 (RIP)
Storage Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320 GB Perpendicular Recording
Display(s) Dell 17'
Case El Cheepo
Audio Device(s) 7.1 Onboard
Power Supply Corsair TX750
Software MCE2K5
I think that 40 nm fab process real benefit is just lower power consumption , and lower temperature ... at a 299 US$ price point i can`t really see more than a 10%-15% performance increase (HD4890 as reference) + dx11 full support . Money tells you everything you need to know about a product .



fab alone doesnt increase performance
 
Joined
Jul 25, 2009
Messages
147 (0.03/day)
Location
AZ
Processor AMD Threadripper 3970x
Motherboard Asus Prime TRX40-Pro
Cooling Custom loop
Memory GSkil Ripjaws 8x32GB DDR4-3600
Video Card(s) Nvidia RTX 3090 TI
Display(s) Alienware AW3420DW
Case Thermaltake Tower 900
Power Supply Corsair HX1200
darn, way out of my budget. with college starting up again, looks like i gotta save up for a few months again.
 
Joined
Aug 3, 2008
Messages
1,644 (0.28/day)
System Name Black Killing Machine
Processor Delidded NO IHS mount Intel i7-4770k
Motherboard Gigabyte Z87X-OC
Cooling Swiftech DIR655 pump, Watercool HEATKILLER® GPU-X³ 79X0 Ni-Bl gpu, DT SNIPER CPU block, UT60 420 RAD
Memory Gskill Trident 2400mhz CL9 Samsung IC9
Video Card(s) SAPPHIRE HD7950 OC 950mhz Edition, VaporX HD7950
Storage 2xM4 Crucial 64GB RAID 0, 1 OCZ AGILILITY 3 60GB, WDCB 500GB x2RAID0, WD Green, Hitachi 1TB
Display(s) Samsung SyncMaster 226BW and 24" 120hz BenQ gamer
Case SilverStone Raven rv-02
Audio Device(s) Audio Technica ATH-AD900 headphones, Topping D2 DAC/Headphone AMP
Power Supply Seasonic Platinum 860
Software Windows 7 Pro 64bit
Benchmark Scores http://hwbot.org/user/sonda5/ Delidding is magic. http://valid.canardpc.com/2878462
i was hoping it to be 249$ but its not:ohwell:



Me too.

Oh well. I'll just wait till the price comes down. Maby by Christmas there will be some good deals on them. :toast:
 
Joined
May 4, 2009
Messages
1,972 (0.35/day)
Location
Bulgaria
System Name penguin
Processor R7 5700G
Motherboard Asrock B450M Pro4
Cooling Some CM tower cooler that will fit my case
Memory 4 x 8GB Kingston HyperX Fury 2666MHz
Video Card(s) IGP
Storage ADATA SU800 512GB
Display(s) 27' LG
Case Zalman
Audio Device(s) stock
Power Supply Seasonic SS-620GM
Software win10
The way I see it, if they keep to the same form factor of the die, moving from 55nm to 40 nm means 1,375 times more transistors( 55/40)
So if we take the 800SPs of the rv770 and multiply it with 1,375, we end up at 1100, which is not dividable by 80, Thus rounding the final number to 1120 or going for a bit bigger die and ending up at 1200SPs.

Not sure if nm scales work like that tho :)

I'm pretty sure ATi will keep going with the same strategy for their chips - if not completely able to beat the nVidia giants, can at least compete at a price/performance point
 
Joined
Jul 19, 2006
Messages
43,604 (6.51/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard ASUS TUF x670e
Cooling EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans.
Memory 32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz
Video Card(s) Asus RTX 4090
Storage WD m.2
Display(s) LG C2 Evo OLED 42"
Case Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo
Audio Device(s) Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp.
Power Supply FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W
Mouse Razer Basilisk V3 Pro
Keyboard Tester84
Software Windows 11
No suprise on price at all and glad to see it.
 
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Messages
11,980 (1.72/day)
System Name Compy 386
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard Asus
Cooling Air for now.....
Memory 64 GB DDR5 6400Mhz
Video Card(s) 7900XTX 310 Merc
Storage Samsung 990 2TB, 2 SP 2TB SSDs, 24TB Enterprise drives
Display(s) 55" Samsung 4K HDR
Audio Device(s) ATI HDMI
Mouse Logitech MX518
Keyboard Razer
Software A lot.
Benchmark Scores Its fast. Enough.
I still want a 2GB version. I would pay $359 for one.
 

werez

New Member
Joined
May 28, 2009
Messages
298 (0.05/day)
Location
Romania
my first dissapointment :

Lynnfield i5-750 199EUR , listed in GERMANY , ready for shipping . PErformance wise , still < i7 920 .
MSI P55-GD80, P55 priced at 195 EUR , listed in GERMANY , ready for shipping .

Now , thats 394EUR .

ASRock X58 Extreme, X58 listed at 132EUR price point .
Intel Core i7-920 listed at 225EUR price point .

Now , thats 357EUR.

They dumped tripple channel memory , so you buy "cheaper" dual channel .. whatever ..

So i can sacrifice tripple channel , buy myself a decent cooler , overclock the 920 , and use the ASRock X58 Extreme ( high end board actually ) , enjoy sli or CF at full speed . Now where is that milestone that intel was talking about ? What i3 dual core that are performing just like the e8400 and will cost 5EUR less ?

So now moovig forward to AMD . Introducing a really high end chipset , bla bla bla , priced somewhere around 230 and give me the same performance as a HD4870X2 ? I DON'T THINK SO .
They will have to cut the HD4870 price at send it in the sub 90EUR zone . THAT IS NOT GOING to happen . NOT ! they have to keep some kind of balance between GPU`s . In my oppinion they will offer a little more boost in terms of performance , dx11 support , lower power consumption , and that`s it . AMD is not making charity actions !
 

Kitkat

New Member
Joined
May 14, 2009
Messages
768 (0.14/day)
i cant WAIT! rofl im gonna go ape$hit! im gonna be poor too alot of tech toys come out in next 3 months. Ill just eat bread and water, i dont care :roll::roll::roll: omg lol
 
Joined
Jun 1, 2006
Messages
1,745 (0.26/day)
Location
The Nevada Wasteland
System Name 9th Level
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard MSI X570 Carbon wifi
Cooling EK Basic 360, x2 250mm, x1 140mm, x1 120mm fans.
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 3200mhz.
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 3080 12GB FTW3
Storage 500gb ssd, 2tb ssd, 6tb HD.
Display(s) MSI 27" Curved 1440p@165hz
Case HAF 932
Power Supply Corsair HX850W
Software Windows 10 64bit
Joined
Jun 1, 2006
Messages
1,745 (0.26/day)
Location
The Nevada Wasteland
System Name 9th Level
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard MSI X570 Carbon wifi
Cooling EK Basic 360, x2 250mm, x1 140mm, x1 120mm fans.
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 3200mhz.
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 3080 12GB FTW3
Storage 500gb ssd, 2tb ssd, 6tb HD.
Display(s) MSI 27" Curved 1440p@165hz
Case HAF 932
Power Supply Corsair HX850W
Software Windows 10 64bit
um did u see the chart with the math. lol what did u expect

What chart? I wanted to see what £299 would be converted into dollers. So I looked it up and saw how much you get ripped off in the UK for computer parts.
 

1Kurgan1

The Knife in your Back
Joined
Dec 8, 2008
Messages
10,421 (1.79/day)
Location
Duluth, Minnesota
System Name My Comp | Fiancees Comp
Processor i7 5820k @ 4.6Ghz 1.285v| i5 2500k
Motherboard MSI x99 SLI Plus | AsRock Z77 Pro 3
Cooling Watercooled
Memory 16GB DDR4 2400 @ 2666 | 12GB DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) AMD R9 290x | MSI 5850 OC
Storage 128gb SSD + 2x 2TB | 2TB
Display(s) Asus 27" LCD | 25" Hanns G
Case CM Storm | CM Elite 430
Audio Device(s) Creative Recon 3D PCIe
Power Supply Enermax Galaxy 1250W | Rosewill 630w
Mouse Logitech G700s | Logitech G100s
Keyboard Logitech G901 | Logitech G105
Software Win 8.1 Ultimate x64 | Win 8.1 Ultimate x64
Benchmark Scores 3D Mark - Fire Strike Extreme - 4403
Wow, AMD is falling back into the trap that Nvidia has set up AGAIN. This happened when the HD 3000 series came up, and now, Nvidia is simply going to strike back using retaliation as their advantage over knowing the weaknesses of this video card. This reminds me of chess too much.

What trap? Thats called a market. Nvidia had a good foot hold till AMD bought out ATi, then the 3870x2 was king, then the GTX280 rolled out and was king, and then the 4870x2 was, then the GTX295, and soon the 5870 or 5870x2.

It's just a back and forth thing, no ones playing into any game, the later product usually should be faster, thats why its later. But remember there is a 4890 right now, and with ATi having what sounds like a 4 to 6 month lead on a 40nm chip, they might have a barn burner 5890 ready to hit the market by the time Nvidia even joins them with a DX11 40nm GPU.
 
Joined
Aug 22, 2007
Messages
3,548 (0.56/day)
Location
Terra
System Name :)
Processor Intel 13700k
Motherboard Gigabyte z790 UD AC
Cooling Noctua NH-D15
Memory 64GB GSKILL DDR5
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC
Storage 960GB Optane 905P U.2 SSD + 4TB PCIe4 U.2 SSD
Display(s) Alienware AW3423DW 175Hz QD-OLED + Nixeus 27" IPS 1440p 144Hz
Case Fractal Design Torrent
Audio Device(s) MOTU M4 - JBL 305P MKII w/2x JL Audio 10 Sealed --- X-Fi Titanium HD - Presonus Eris E5 - JBL 4412
Power Supply Silverstone 1000W
Mouse Roccat Kain 122 AIMO
Keyboard KBD67 Lite / Mammoth75
VR HMD Reverb G2 V2
Software Win 11 Pro
nice, can't wait for the $50 off in the first week :D
 
Joined
Jun 3, 2006
Messages
1,328 (0.20/day)
Location
London
$299.99 = £182.72

£299.99 = $492.51


Man thats a crazy ripoff.

Don't worry. It won't be £299. Brits just like to complain.

The HD4870 was around £200 on release. I bought the HD4850 on release at £120. US price of both cards were $299 and $199 respectively.

The £:$ exchange rate is slightly worse this time around though. So prices will be a bit higher.
 
Joined
Apr 11, 2009
Messages
922 (0.16/day)
Location
London, UK
Processor AMD FX 8350 Black Edition @ 4.2Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Rev 4.0
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory Samsung Green 16GB 30nm 1600Mhz DDR3
Video Card(s) XFX HD 7950 DD 3GB @ 850/5000Mhz
Storage 240GB Intel 520 SSD + 2TB Seagate Barracuda
Display(s) ASUS PB278Q 27" QHD
Case Fractal Design R5 Black
Power Supply Seasonic Platinum 760W
Mouse Corsair Raptor M40
Keyboard Corsair Raptor K50
Software Windows 10 Pro
im only buying it if it gets to £200
 
Joined
Jul 24, 2009
Messages
476 (0.09/day)
System Name Corporate Commando
Processor Intel i7 3820 @ 4.5ghz
Motherboard Asrock x79 extreme 6gb
Cooling corsair h100
Memory 8 gig corsair 1866 ddr3 ram
Video Card(s) 3 x EVGA GTX 680
Storage 2x samsung F3 1tb drives in RAID 0, 512gb samsung ssd
Display(s) 3 x Asus 27" monitor @ 5760 x 1080
Case Corsair C70
Power Supply Coolermaster 1200watt gold
If the rumors are true that the 5870 will have similiar/better performance than the 4870x2 then i will pick one up...however if not i think ill pick up two 4890s and put them in crossfire :)
 
Joined
Aug 7, 2008
Messages
5,739 (0.96/day)
Location
Wakefield, UK
The 4870 was £220 on release here. If it's the same or abit lower after a week or so... I'm very tempted.
 
Joined
Jun 1, 2006
Messages
1,745 (0.26/day)
Location
The Nevada Wasteland
System Name 9th Level
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard MSI X570 Carbon wifi
Cooling EK Basic 360, x2 250mm, x1 140mm, x1 120mm fans.
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 3200mhz.
Video Card(s) EVGA RTX 3080 12GB FTW3
Storage 500gb ssd, 2tb ssd, 6tb HD.
Display(s) MSI 27" Curved 1440p@165hz
Case HAF 932
Power Supply Corsair HX850W
Software Windows 10 64bit
What trap? Thats called a market. Nvidia had a good foot hold till AMD bought out ATi, then the 3870x2 was king, then the GTX280 rolled out and was king, and then the 4870x2 was, then the GTX295, and soon the 5870 or 5870x2.

It's just a back and forth thing, no ones playing into any game, the later product usually should be faster, thats why its later. But remember there is a 4890 right now, and with ATi having what sounds like a 4 to 6 month lead on a 40nm chip, they might have a barn burner 5890 ready to hit the market by the time Nvidia even joins them with a DX11 40nm GPU.

My X1950XT wants a word with you.
 
Joined
Nov 9, 2008
Messages
2,318 (0.40/day)
Location
Texas
System Name Mr. Reliable
Processor Ryzen R7 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI X670E Carbon Wifi
Cooling D5 Pump, Singularity Top/Res, 2x360mm EK P rads, EK Magnitude/Bitspower Blocks
Memory 32Gb (2x16Gb) GSkill Trident Z5 DDR5 6000 Cl30
Video Card(s) Asus Tuf 4080 Super
Storage 4 x Crucial P5 1TB; 2 x Samsung 870 2TB
Display(s) Acer 32" Z321QU 2560x1440; LG 34GP83A-B 34" 3440x1440
Case Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic XL; Synology DS218j w/ 2 x 2TB WD Red
Audio Device(s) SteelSeries Arctis Pro+
Power Supply EVGA SuperNova 850G3
Mouse Razer Basilisk V2
Keyboard Das Keyboard 6; Razer Orbweaver Chroma
Software Windows 11 Pro
If the rumors are true that the 5870 will have similiar/better performance than the 4870x2 then i will pick one up...however if not i think ill pick up two 4890s and put them in crossfire :)

You stole my plan...:p I figure I am going to grab 2 4890s to replace my 4850s when the HD5000s launch (can you say price drop?), then wait til the new Nvidia cards launch (Dec-Jan) and grab a pair of 5870s (Price drop again?)
 
Joined
Nov 22, 2008
Messages
3,779 (0.65/day)
Location
Latin America, Uruguay
System Name The Lizard v2.4
Processor Intel Celeron G1840 (for the time being
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H81-S2PH
Cooling Intel Stock Fan
Memory 16GB Kingston HyperX 1600
Video Card(s) MSI Gaming GTX 750Ti (For the time being)
Storage 500GB Samsung F1, 160GB Maxtor "Older than god"
Display(s) AOC 28' LCD
Case Coolermaster N200
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Antec VP500P
Software Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Benchmark Scores No crashes in the last 24 minutes.
nice price. too bad it will cost like 400 dollars here.
 
Joined
Jul 3, 2007
Messages
1,317 (0.21/day)
Location
New Zealand
Processor AMD Phenom II 555BE unlocked X4 @3.8GHz
Motherboard GA-78LMT-S2P
Cooling Thermaltake Blue Orb + open case in cold room = low temps lol
Memory 8Gb DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) GTX580
Storage 64GB SSD Super Talent
Display(s) 22" Chimei, 17" Philips
Case POS!
Power Supply Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 800W
Top