TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

p_o_s_pc · Dec 20, 2009

got great news. The E1500 is stable again and running XP 64bit(was 7 64bit) it will be back online shortly(installing drivers and boinc). The 240 is back at 3.6ghz but i had to use Easytune to get it to that speed again (still a no go when try in the bios :wtf:

) the P4 is back at running 3.94ghz stable again

*knocks on wood* if all goes well tomorrow i should be at full steam on the WCG side but still 1 GPU short on the folding side :ohwell:

i think my day of tweaking,stress testing and fresh installs was long overdue

[Ion] · Dec 20, 2009

p_o_s_pc said:
got great news. The E1500 is stable again and running XP 64bit(was 7 64bit) it will be back online shortly(installing drivers and boinc). The 240 is back at 3.6ghz but i had to use Easytune to get it to that speed again (still a no go when try in the bios ) the P4 is back at running 3.94ghz stable again

*knocks on wood* if all goes well tomorrow i should be at full steam on the WCG side but still 1 GPU short on the folding side i think my day of tweaking,stress testing and fresh installs was long overdue

Awesome, hopefully everything is going to work out for you!
Instabilites are unfortunately a fact of life when Ocing substantially, but still a pain in the ass :banghead:

p_o_s_pc · Dec 20, 2009

[Ion] said:
Awesome, hopefully everything is going to work out for you!
Instabilites are unfortunately a fact of life when Ocing substantially, but still a pain in the ass

it is a pain in the ass but well worth it once you get the stability problems worked out.

BTW i forgot how snappy a fresh XP install can be. I been using 7 for so long.

[Ion] · Dec 20, 2009

p_o_s_pc said:
it is a pain in the ass but well worth it once you get the stability problems worked out.

BTW i forgot how snappy a fresh XP install can be. I been using 7 for so long.

It's pretty impressive, I recently wiped and reinstalled XP Pro on the old laptop for WCG, and it's faster to boot and load apps than even the E6550 rig....but is still beaten by the T400 and rig in specs. I'm tempted to try out XP Pro x64 on the T400, but I doubt that I could find drivers for it, and I have things set up the way I like them

And Aero is nice :eek:

I don't think that the ~75 PPD extra is really worth it for all of the trouble it would be and the large chance of things not working properly

p_o_s_pc · Dec 20, 2009

[Ion] said:
It's pretty impressive, I recently wiped and reinstalled XP Pro on the old laptop for WCG, and it's faster to boot and load apps than even the E6550 rig....but is still beaten by the T400 and rig in specs. I'm tempted to try out XP Pro x64 on the T400, but I doubt that I could find drivers for it, and I have things set up the way I like them And Aero is nice
I don't think that the ~75 PPD extra is really worth it for all of the trouble it would be and the large chance of things not working properly

if things are how you like them and everything is working then don't change anything. The only reason i did is because i was using the same install i used on 3 boards and a few video cards(one of them was ATI the others Nvidia) also i used it on a board with a Via chip set,AMD chipset,Intel chipset and Nvidia chipset. I'm amazed that it even worked

neoreif · Dec 20, 2009

[Ion] said:
Could you go to Advanced-->Preferences and verify for me that the CPU usage is set to 100%?

Since you have a quad, it should be running 4 tasks at once (depending on how you have BOINC set up, you may have to hit "advanced view" first). After you've done all of this, could you open up Task Manager and verify that the computer is running at 100% across all 4 cores?

Yup! It's doing 4 tasks at once!

But the processor load fluctuates from 50% to 100% load as indicated by cpu-z and real temp!

I mean by task manager and real temp! Sorry for the unintentional 'dumbness'!

theonedub · Dec 20, 2009

Go to options and set processor usage to 100%

neoreif · Dec 20, 2009

Followed your advice dub! Thanks for the tip!

theonedub · Dec 20, 2009

neoreif said:
Followed your advice dub! Thanks for the tip!

Thank you for crunching for the team :rockout:

Chicken Patty · Dec 20, 2009

neoreif said:
Just joined WCG! 1 Hour and a Half crunching and going!

Welcome to the team dude, I'm usually around spamming along with the other guys, just haven't been home since 8am today. If you need some help I'm here too!

Make sure to check this link out, done by our own ION. Great guide, has everything you need

CRUNCH ON

WCG Essentials

neoreif · Dec 20, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
Welcome to the team dude, I'm usually around spamming along with the other guys, just haven't been home since 8am today. If you need some help I'm here too!

Make sure to check this link out, done by our own ION. Great guide, has everything you need CRUNCH ON

WCG Essentials

Thanks for the welcome CP!

Gonna check this link now! :toast:

Chicken Patty · Dec 20, 2009

neoreif said:
Thanks for the welcome CP! Gonna check this link now!

Anytime bro, if you need anything just holler at me. I'm hitting the sack now, i'm freakin' beat!

neoreif · Dec 20, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
Anytime bro, if you need anything just holler at me. I'm hitting the sack now, i'm freakin' beat!

HAHa! its night time there and its 3pm here in the afternoon! you have a good rest then! :roll:

Chicken Patty · Dec 20, 2009

neoreif said:
HAHa! its night time there and its 3pm here in the afternoon! you have a good rest then!

Yeah man. Was taking down the transmission from my car from about 8am to 2 or 3pm. Taking it down, open it up, seeing the damage, etc. I'll end up having to replace Input shaft, Input Shaft Gear, and 1st/2nd gear Hub and Sleeve. About $700. Sucks for me

neoreif · Dec 20, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
Yeah man. Was taking down the transmission from my car from about 8am to 2 or 3pm. Taking it down, open it up, seeing the damage, etc. I'll end up having to replace Input shaft, Input Shaft Gear, and 1st/2nd gear Hub and Sleeve. About $700. Sucks for me

I know some auto mechanic work too! But thats limited to changing oil filters and checking break fluid levels! :toast:

Maintaining a car sure consumes a lot in the family treasury! But anyways, its a necessary evil!

Sleep good my friend and rest your weary soul for tomorrow is another day! :cool:

Wile E · Dec 20, 2009

Chicken Patty said:
Yeah man. Was taking down the transmission from my car from about 8am to 2 or 3pm. Taking it down, open it up, seeing the damage, etc. I'll end up having to replace Input shaft, Input Shaft Gear, and 1st/2nd gear Hub and Sleeve. About $700. Sucks for me

$700 from Shepard I hope.

Should swap the diffs while you have it cracked, too.

again

Chicken Patty · Dec 20, 2009

neoreif said:
I know some auto mechanic work too! But thats limited to changing oil filters and checking break fluid levels! Maintaining a car sure consumes a lot in the family treasury! But anyways, its a necessary evil! Sleep good my friend and rest your weary soul for tomorrow is another day!

Well I actually found everything I need for $418!!!! now Im really going to bed :laugh:

Wile E said:
$700 from Shepard I hope. Should swap the diffs while you have it cracked, too. again

Naw, it's not going to be from Shep bro. Stage I tranny is about $1250 shipped both way s and it don't replace none of the stuff I need.

I found the Input Shaft, Input Shaft gear, the whole 1st/2nd gear assembly and all the needed seals, oil, etc for about $440 shipped from Jacks Transmissions. I might do that soon

Error 404 · Dec 20, 2009

I'm almost certainly joining WCG for the CPU side of things, so I need a bit of info.
How many PPD can I expect from:
E5200 @ 3.5 GHz, E6400 @ 2.13 GHz ? (Vista)
The Pentium 4 Northwood 2.8 GHz with 512 MB DDR400 (rig 3 in sig)? (XP)
A T4300 2.1 GHz (which will be in my laptop with windows 7).

Oh, and I'll need to run this program pretty much undetected on the E6400, is there a way to install it so that it just sits in the background, using CPU when its not being used and not showing any signs of it existing? (well, it can appear in the "installed programs" list, but thats about it).
Thanks for any info on this!

neoreif · Dec 20, 2009

Error 404 said:
I'm almost certainly joining WCG for the CPU side of things, so I need a bit of info.
How many PPD can I expect from:
E5200 @ 3.5 GHz, E6400 @ 2.13 GHz ? (Vista)
The Pentium 4 Northwood 2.8 GHz with 512 MB DDR400 (rig 3 in sig)? (XP)
A T4300 2.1 GHz (which will be in my laptop with windows 7).

Oh, and I'll need to run this program pretty much undetected on the E6400, is there a way to install it so that it just sits in the background, using CPU when its not being used and not showing any signs of it existing? (well, it can appear in the "installed programs" list, but thats about it).
Thanks for any info on this!

Good day 404! I can recommend you this link by [Ion]. Hope it helps! Hope you crunch soon for the team! :rockout:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=106593

[Ion] · Dec 20, 2009

Error 404 said:
I'm almost certainly joining WCG for the CPU side of things, so I need a bit of info.
How many PPD can I expect from:
E5200 @ 3.5 GHz, E6400 @ 2.13 GHz ? (Vista)
The Pentium 4 Northwood 2.8 GHz with 512 MB DDR400 (rig 3 in sig)? (XP)
A T4300 2.1 GHz (which will be in my laptop with windows 7).

Oh, and I'll need to run this program pretty much undetected on the E6400, is there a way to install it so that it just sits in the background, using CPU when its not being used and not showing any signs of it existing? (well, it can appear in the "installed programs" list, but thats about it).
Thanks for any info on this!

I seem to have the semi-official job of estimating PPD for everyone, so here we go:
E5200: ~1000 PPD (as reported by the BOINC manager, BOINCstats.com, and Free-DC), 7000 PPD as reported by worldcommunitygrid.org
E6400: ~600 PPD (BOINC), ~4200 PPD (WCG)
P4 Northwood: ~250 (BOINC), ~1700 (WCG)
T4300: ~600 PPD (BOINC), ~4200 (WCG).

As for WCG on the E6400, there's not really anything you need to do, I have it installed on my parent's rig and it stays running even while my brother is playing video games on the computer, it just automatically backs off CPU usage. I have set up BOINCview to monitor it remotely, and I can see the CPU usage % drop from ~98-99% when the computer is not being used to ~60% across both cores when he is playing a game, but it still runs in the background. Do your folks use Task Manager much, and if so, do you think they would notice the 100% CPU usage and try and do something about it? You could always set it lower, but, if anything, it's possible that it would be more noticeable because the graph in Task Manager would bounce around more. Setting it to a lower CPU usage % tends to assure people more because things aren't always at 100%, but in reality it just gives less PPD and doesn't make it any less noticeable (as it has no noticeable effect on system performance to begin with). I installed WCG on my mom's E6550, and she didn't even notice for the first 2 months, at which point I pointed out that I had set up WCG on it :cool:

So I would say that it is essentially a non-issue for most computers

theonedub · Dec 20, 2009

[Ion] said:
I seem to have the semi-official job of estimating PPD for everyone

When I read his post, I immediately thought "Ion would be able to answer this"

PPD Estimator should be your title!

Chicken Patty · Dec 20, 2009

Error 404 said:
I'm almost certainly joining WCG for the CPU side of things, so I need a bit of info.
How many PPD can I expect from:
E5200 @ 3.5 GHz, E6400 @ 2.13 GHz ? (Vista)
The Pentium 4 Northwood 2.8 GHz with 512 MB DDR400 (rig 3 in sig)? (XP)
A T4300 2.1 GHz (which will be in my laptop with windows 7).

Oh, and I'll need to run this program pretty much undetected on the E6400, is there a way to install it so that it just sits in the background, using CPU when its not being used and not showing any signs of it existing? (well, it can appear in the "installed programs" list, but thats about it).
Thanks for any info on this!

You won't regret joining dude :toast:

That thread that neoreif linked you has all you need to know. The rest, that's what we are here for :toast:

p_o_s_pc · Dec 20, 2009

what do you guys think about this PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151084&Tpk=Seasonic S12d 750
It's price couldn't be anymore perfect (i will have $100 not a penny more to spend on a PSU)

Should it be fine to run a
X2 240@3.6ghz(or higher)
2 8800GT's both overclocked

all will run 24/7 crunching/folding

I didn't find it worth starting another thread as i thought you crunchers could advise me and it does have to do with crunching :toast:

[Ion] · Dec 20, 2009

Looks like a great PSU IMO, 750w, one of the best PSU manufacturers, 80+ Silver (even if you don't pay for the power, it saves your parents a bit), plenty of PCI-E cables, and very affordable. Go for it! :toast:

stanhemi · Dec 20, 2009

My production is low since 2 week on my Q9550. I play a lot (lfd2) :eek:

I will add a quad in a few days to stabilize my ppd :toast:

(I'll pick up a psu Tuesday)

happy holiday to all crunsher :toast:

I wish you all health, happiness and money (to build more rig

)

System Name	el'lappy\|Cruncher \| Cruncher 2
Processor	intel C2D T6400 \| i7 3770k @4.2ghz \| AII X2 220 @3.4ghz
Motherboard	some Acer \| Asus P8Z77-V Pro \|Gigabyter GA-M61p-S3
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Memory	2x2gb ddr3 \| 2x2gb Ripjaws 1600 \|4x512mb D9s
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Power Supply	Dell brick w/ acer end end \| Antec EW 650w \|Antec SP 350w(upg.soon)
Software	Windows 7 Ult. 64bit---->------->

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System Name	el'lappy\|Cruncher \| Cruncher 2
Processor	intel C2D T6400 \| i7 3770k @4.2ghz \| AII X2 220 @3.4ghz
Motherboard	some Acer \| Asus P8Z77-V Pro \|Gigabyter GA-M61p-S3
Cooling	dual 80mm cooling fan \| WC'ing ) \|cheapo
Memory	2x2gb ddr3 \| 2x2gb Ripjaws 1600 \|4x512mb D9s
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Case	lappy case \| CM HAF XB \|none yet
Audio Device(s)	onboard \| onboard \| onboard
Power Supply	Dell brick w/ acer end end \| Antec EW 650w \|Antec SP 350w(upg.soon)
Software	Windows 7 Ult. 64bit---->------->

System Name	Niedersachsen / Ribe / Minsk
Processor	i3 3240 / i7-3520M / 4x Opteron 6376 @ 2.86GHz
Motherboard	BIOSTAR H61M / HP Q77 / Supermicro H8QG7
Cooling	Stock / Stock / 4x 1U G34
Memory	1x8GB / 2x4GB / 4x4GB
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Case	Antec NSK3480 / HP / Supermicro 1U
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Enermax 500W / HP 130W / Supermicro Gold 1400W
Keyboard	IBM Model M
Software	Windows 7 (Niedersachsen/Ribe) / Linux Mint 17.2 (Minsk)

System Name	el'lappy\|Cruncher \| Cruncher 2
Processor	intel C2D T6400 \| i7 3770k @4.2ghz \| AII X2 220 @3.4ghz
Motherboard	some Acer \| Asus P8Z77-V Pro \|Gigabyter GA-M61p-S3
Cooling	dual 80mm cooling fan \| WC'ing ) \|cheapo
Memory	2x2gb ddr3 \| 2x2gb Ripjaws 1600 \|4x512mb D9s
Video Card(s)	onboard \| 60 1GB(hd7770 ) \|8800GTS
Storage	Momuntus xt 320gb \|Kingston Hyper X 120gb SATA III\|500gb WD
Display(s)	17in \| 42" 1080P HD 3D TV
Case	lappy case \| CM HAF XB \|none yet
Audio Device(s)	onboard \| onboard \| onboard
Power Supply	Dell brick w/ acer end end \| Antec EW 650w \|Antec SP 350w(upg.soon)
Software	Windows 7 Ult. 64bit---->------->

TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

p_o_s_pc

F@H&WCG addict

[Ion]

WCG Team Assistant

p_o_s_pc

F@H&WCG addict

[Ion]

WCG Team Assistant

p_o_s_pc

F@H&WCG addict

neoreif

theonedub

habe fidem

neoreif

theonedub

habe fidem

Chicken Patty

neoreif

Chicken Patty

neoreif

Chicken Patty

neoreif

Wile E

Power User

Chicken Patty

Error 404

neoreif

[Ion]

WCG Team Assistant

theonedub

habe fidem

Chicken Patty

p_o_s_pc

F@H&WCG addict

[Ion]

WCG Team Assistant

stanhemi

New Member

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Case	Corsair Obsidian 750d
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Power Supply	Seasonic X - 660Watt Gold
Software	Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

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Memory	32GB (4x8GB) Corsair Vengeance PRO RGB DDR4 3000\|\| 2x16GB Corsair DDR4
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Power Supply	Corsair HX1000
Mouse	Corsair Harpoon Wireless RGB
Keyboard	Corsair Strafe RGB w/ Cherry MX Silent
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Software	Windows 11 Pro

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Case	Technofront Bench Station
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