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MKmods · Mar 19, 2010

For me I believe showing less (but hinting at stuff) is WAY more powerful than out right showing it.(especially with Mina)

I have no prob at all if they tone down the naked parts..(there arent that many) with Qwaser it would be impossible as it takes away from 75% of the story.

My all time favorite is Ladies Versus Butlers, that would even be ok to edit a bit for the mass market.

But to me it would make such an excellent [H] anime with them going even a bit further.

TheLaughingMan · Mar 19, 2010

MKmods said:
For me I believe showing less (but hinting at stuff) is WAY more powerful than out right showing it.(especially with Mina)

I have no prob at all if they tone down the naked parts..(there arent that many) with Qwaser it would be impossible as it takes away from 75% of the story.

My all time favorite is Ladies Versus Butlers, that would even be ok to edit a bit for the mass market.

But to me it would make such an excellent [H] anime with them going even a bit further.

Its not the nudity that is the issue. It is the apparent rather young appearance of cast members involved some of the more sexual scenes. I have not seen the show, but I gather there is no sex or sexual contact, but it is implied and there is some nudity as you stated. Depending on how far the implication goes, they could get in trouble letting unedited slide, but we will see.

And if I am not mistaken, you are very new to the anime scene right MK?

MKmods · Mar 19, 2010

I have been watching for the last 7mos..(def a noob but thanks to dj and others here I have seen about 200 series)

And here in the US showing a powerful but naked 10 year old isant gonna go over well.. (I agree with not being able to show Mina naked even though in my mind I see her as someone possibly several hundred years old)

I would hate to stifle the creativity of the creators but there is the whole marketing thing, To me LvB is so funny it would spread like wildfire to a much larger audience if they eliminated the naked (I like naked) I have a bunch of friends i recommend stuff to but cant because they are younger (under 20) and it just feels wrong.

entropy13 · Mar 19, 2010

Summer Wars

I was on the verge of tears after the 74 to 75 and up scene!!! LOL

If ep 9 of bund have been subbed then I'll just wait for the streams XD

TheLaughingMan · Mar 19, 2010

I am going to have to check this show out, because you have been on this for a while now.

I was just checking cause I like to recommend some old school stuff, but I am sure you have gotten enough from Dj and people here.

Mussels · Mar 19, 2010

as to people having issues with languages/subtitles/commentaries with CCCP, remember that you dont control subitles and languages in the player! you get tray icons for haali/VSfilter, and you control it through them.

Mussels · Mar 19, 2010

Wile E said:
What are you using to play it?

he needs to read my post above yours

Wile E · Mar 19, 2010

Mussels said:
he needs to read my post above yours

lol. I deleted it after I saw I was a page behind. Anyway, I was gonna point that out, but also that Zoom Player is almost always able to switch the streams flawlessly. It integrates with Haali (and most other DShow filters).

FreedomEclipse · Mar 19, 2010

entropy13 said:
Summer Wars

I was on the verge of tears after the 74 to 75 and up scene!!! LOL

If ep 9 of bund have been subbed then I'll just wait for the streams XD

I was gutted when the sub group i was following dropped vampire bund cuz it got licensed...

still poking around for subs for that - otherwise Im stuck at Ep 6

Mussels · Mar 19, 2010

This is the perfect example of what i was talking about a few pages back, about the advantages of 480p blu ray rips, over 480i DVD rips - the pic below is a PERFECT example of the 'tearing' you get in fast motion scenes when de-interlacing isnt working right.

djisas · Mar 19, 2010

Mussels said:
as to people having issues with languages/subtitles/commentaries with CCCP, remember that you dont control subitles and languages in the player! you get tray icons for haali/VSfilter, and you control it through them.

With the program i mentioned, the player gives you full and simple control over audio/subs streams, it also can play 2 audio streams at the same time and chapters, you just right click media streams and chose

TheLaughingMan · Mar 19, 2010

Mussels said:
This is the perfect example of what i was talking about a few pages back, about the advantages of 480p blu ray rips, over 480i DVD rips - the pic below is a PERFECT example of the 'tearing' you get in fast motion scenes when de-interlacing isnt working right.

http://www.just-whatever.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/star-wars-baseball.jpg

Why would anyone rip a DVD at 480i. That is just dumb when 480p is the DVD's native resolution output.

Mussels · Mar 19, 2010

TheLaughingMan said:
Why would anyone rip a DVD at 480i. That is just dumb when 480p is the DVD's native resolution output.

(american) NTSC DVD is 480i. you have to deinterlace to make it progressive - and since most people use a quick and dirty method to save time, it goes to shit.

edit: its hard to find stuff via google on this, but i found something.

http://hometheater.about.com/od/beforeyoubuy/a/progressivescan_2.htm

One thing to keep in mind, is there are two types of progressive scan, which is also referred to as 480p, when referenced to DVD players: progressive scan and progressive scan with 3:2 pulldown detection. If your DVD player has progressive scan without 3:2 pulldown detection, it will still produce a smoother image than traditional interlaced video, as the progressive scan DVD player will read the interlaced image of the DVD and process a progressive image of the signal and and pass that on to a TV or video projector. However, if the DVD player has the addition of 3:2 pulldown detection, not only will your video display a smoother progressively scanned image, but you will experience the DVD film in as close a state as possible to what you would see coming from an actual film projector, except that it is still in the video domain.

DVD is interlaced, just that the players are performing deinterlacing these days.

TheLaughingMan · Mar 20, 2010

Mussels said:
(american) NTSC DVD is 480i. you have to deinterlace to make it progressive - and since most people use a quick and dirty method to save time, it goes to shit.

I am not sure about NTSC standards, but every DVD I have ever seen normall outputs at 480p unless your TV can't handle that or you manually change it. I think you are right and these people are just lazy when they ripped this.

Mussels · Mar 20, 2010

TheLaughingMan said:
I am not sure about NTSC standards, but every DVD I have ever seen normall outputs at 480p unless your TV can't handle that or you manually change it. I think you are right and these people are just lazy when they ripped this.

NTSC = 480i
PAL = 576i

as i said, the devices you're using are doing the deinterlacing themselves. When you convert a DVD to files you have to do it via software (since PC files are meant to be progressive).

We're going off on a tangent - my initial point was simply that going for a blu ray source over DVD, prevents possible situations where you get crappy blurry images like the one i posted.

TheLaughingMan · Mar 20, 2010

Mussels said:
NTSC = 480i
PAL = 576i

as i said, the devices you're using are doing the deinterlacing themselves. When you convert a DVD to files you have to do it via software (since PC files are meant to be progressive).

We're going off on a tangent - my initial point was simply that going for a blu ray source over DVD, prevents possible situations where you get crappy blurry images like the one i posted.

Thanks. Still stupid for the standard to use 480i as the standard when the DVD medium can easily handle 480p. Off tangent.

I started watching Zoids Chaotic Century again. I forgot how corny it was. I can't wait til the time skip and every thing gets more "real."

Mussels · Mar 20, 2010

TheLaughingMan said:
Thanks. Still stupid for the standard to use 480i as the standard when the DVD medium can easily handle 480p. Off tangent.

I started watching Zoids Chaotic Century again. I forgot how corny it was. I can't wait til the time skip and every thing gets more "real."

DVD cant do 480p. its limited to NTSC and PAL - the TV standards they're designed around.

i've been watching outlaw star remastered - great show, reminds me of bebop.

TheLaughingMan · Mar 20, 2010

Mussels said:
DVD cant do 480p. its limited to NTSC and PAL - the TV standards they're designed around.

i've been watching outlaw star remastered - great show, reminds me of bebop.

I miss Outlaw Star in TV. That 1 episode was not that bad and I don't think the entire episode should have been removed from broadcast on Cartoon Network.

P.S. I found a site with more information about DVD's than I could have asked for and now my head hurts.

TheLaughingMan · Mar 20, 2010

Sorry for the double post.

Has anyone here checked out Ponyo or The Girl Who leap through Time? I hear they are like, something you must see and I loves my feature films.

Mussels · Mar 20, 2010

Ponyo and THGLTT are awesome. Summer wars is better than both, however.

All three are highly reccomended from me - and thats saying something, cause these are family friendly shows yet i love them to bits.

entropy13 · Mar 20, 2010

The Girl Who Leap Through Time was the first movie of the "team" that made Summer Wars, and their second movie is better, but not by much anyway.

New subbed Durarara! (ep11) is now available as well.

I've just finished the 23 episodes of Kimi ni Todoke, good story (for me) and nice comedy here and there (especially the chibi Sawako lol).

And Summer Wars also reminded me of hanafuda. I have a hanafuda game in my PC lol (idk if it's koi-koi however, I'll check first lol)

eidairaman1 · Mar 20, 2010

Mussels said:
Ponyo and THGLTT are awesome. Summer wars is better than both, however.

All three are highly reccomended from me - and thats saying something, cause these are family friendly shows yet i love them to bits.

And these are from the Japanese that usually make Anime that is not meant for kids ears and eyes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studio_Ghibli

thats the studio behind several films, mainly Miyazaki

Wile E · Mar 20, 2010

Yeah, and some of the founders of Ghibli were the ones that did the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings animated movies.

eidairaman1 · Mar 20, 2010

Wile E said:
Yeah, and some of the founders of Ghibli were the ones that did the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings animated movies.

hmm i wonder why they werent credited for those on the link i provided. Also what else have they done? Star Wars the Animation!?

Wile E · Mar 20, 2010

eidairaman1 said:
hmm i wonder why they werent credited for those on the link i provided. Also what else have they done? Star Wars the Animation!?

Hobbit and LOTR were pre-Ghibli. Some of the Ghibli guys did Thundercats as well. Pretty funny to think about. lol

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