The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[fullinfusion]

Yeah, 8 gigs @ 6-6-5 1600. But for $500, it better well damn be!

Dunno what's up with the pics...they were 2560x1600, so should be HUGE, but aren't. Oh well.



I pulled that number outt nowhere. It's not really gonna make THAT much difference, really. When it comes to games, it's not gonna matter too much. But since you said it's a work machine, and mnetioned photoshop, I think you'd be better off with the larger amount of ram.

I mean, people don't like Windows Performance Idex ratings much, but there IS a reason for them giving more points for more ram. My daily uses barely go over 5GB, so really, I got an extra stick, I suppose, but 4GB was definately slower. Add in SuperFetch, once it learns your uses, and there's a HUGE difference to me with 8GB.

I tottaly agree with using the 1066MHz mode for your work rig, I convert a pile of movies and one thing I notice is ram settings @ 1600+ clocks.... way wayyy faster and As for Gaming , Im not that much in favor on that comment.... I find tighter timings as well as higher freq makes a noticeable difference in a lot of games

 

[erocker]

For me it's strange. Gaming loves what I'm at now, 1400mhz 6 6-6-18 timings. It also likes 1800mhz 8 8-8-24. It however does not like my ram too much at 1600mhz 7 7-7-21. Perhaps I should try 7 7-7-19 or something...

 

[cdawall]

Yeah, 8 gigs @ 6-6-5 1600. But for $500, it better well damn be!

Dunno what's up with the pics...they were 2560x1600, so should be HUGE, but aren't. Oh well.

way overpriced my $100 sticks do that just fine (higher volts of course)

 

[TheMailMan78]

Well after some "heavy" work in Photoshop I noticed some slow down with the 4 gigs. Went back to 8 and shes alot smoother now. I'm gonna stick with 8 until I can afford a new mobo.

 

[cadaveca]

I tottaly agree with using the 1066MHz mode for your work rig, I convert a pile of movies and one thing I notice is ram settings @ 1600+ clocks.... way wayyy faster and As for Gaming , Im not that much in favor on that comment.... I find tighter timings as well as higher freq makes a noticeable difference in a lot of games

All of that is dependant on cpu frequency and app/settings of the app. I'm sure that @ 4ghz you need ram to match, but I'm running 3600 only, so can only relate things with that taken into consideration. There's no such thing as a blanket statement to cover performance in any given situation unless comparing with keeping things the same execpt for what you are comparing. See the post above my post...

way overpriced my $100 sticks do that just fine (higher volts of course)

Your point? Not the same, is it? Cost isn't something that holds me back from getting what I want...just might have to wait longer, and beleive me, patience just cames naturally after being confined for so long. Besides, your's aren't Dominator GT's, and probably won't go as high on Intel as these do. Apples and Oranges.

 

[erocker]

I have my eye on some Super*Talent DDR3 2200mhz cas 8! They can be had for $199 and are basically Corsair GT 1600 cas 6's.

 

[cadaveca]

I've actually got my eye on the Gskill flare's...i think they are GSkill...

Anyway, I just buy what I think pleases my eye, when it comes to ram. I probably would have got the GT CAS6 sticks, with the taller heatsinks, if they were out when I got my first set of GT's, but they weren't available back then. Now I gotta order the fins from Corsair...for $500 for 6...and I only need 4...

 

[erocker]

You just reminded me that I have a friend who has the exact same sticks of Crucials that I have but they're Tracers. Hmmm. I wouldn't mind 8gb's and some blingy lights to go with it... He's kinda shifty though, I'd have to find him some equally cool looking RAM..

 

[cdawall]

Well after some "heavy" work in Photoshop I noticed some slow down with the 4 gigs. Went back to 8 and shes alot smoother now. I'm gonna stick with 8 until I can afford a new mobo.

haha try running CAD on this

lags bad with multiple drawings up...

Your point? Not the same, is it? Cost isn't something that holds me back from getting what I want...just might have to wait longer, and beleive me, patience just cames naturally after being confined for so long. Besides, your's aren't Dominator GT's, and probably won't go as high on Intel as these do. Apples and Oranges.

do clock as high on intel

 

[cadaveca]

Doubtful. Let's see some 2300mhz 9-9-9 screenies! No high volt ram will do that 24/7, without needing some really signifigant cooling. Micron jsut doesn't cut it, and even my Hyper's are supased now...2500mhz sticks are for sale, today!

And sry, no e-peen going on here. I think your ramsticks are ugly. Price is good, sure, but I don't care about cost.

 

[cdawall]

Doubtful. Let's see some 2300mhz 9-9-9 screenies! No high volt ram will do that 24/7, without needing some really signifigant cooling. Micron jsut doesn't cut it, and even my Hyper's are supased now...2500mhz sticks are for sale, today!

And sry, no e-peen going on here. I think your ramsticks are ugly. Price is good, sure, but I don't care about cost.

2200 cas 9 1.85v

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=220130

2166 cas 8 2.2v//2400 cas 11 2.2v

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=195122&highlight=D9JNM

2682 cas 9 2.13v <- top that one

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=203672&highlight=D9JNM

 

[cadaveca]

I thought you said YOUR sticks could do that? 24/7? Go ahead, toss up a screenie of your own!

last one is impressive...but...not gonna do that 24/7. CPU-Z valids are hardly important to most people, myself included.


Remember, overclocking acheivements mean nothing to me. I want good, reliable, 24/7.

 

[cdawall]

I thought you said YOUR sticks could do that? 24/7? Go ahead, toss upa screenie of your own!

last one is impressive...but...not gonna do that 24/7. CPU-Z valids are hardly important to most people, myself included.


Remeber, overclocking acheivements mean nothing to me. I want good, reliable, 24/7.

first two were 32m stable pretty 24/7 IMO

 

[cadaveca]

LoL...32M is stable? doesn't even use all the ram! LoL...it's called maxmem, most of them use it too.


I know all the "tricks". Doesn't impress. I could post up CAS5 1600mhz...but who cares?

 

[cdawall]

LoL...32M is stable? doesn't even use all the ram! LoL...it's called maxmem, most of them use it too.


I know all the "tricks". Doesn't impress.

hold on 32m is held as one of the tests to check ram stability its known all over for that its one of the requirements for showing ram stability in the memory threads. 32m uses the most memory of any benchmark it loads the entire calculation into the systems memory and runs it there. you apparently have never heard of that though....

that is my sticks peaking on 790FX with cas6 i will give them another go when my 890FX stuff gets here.

 

[erocker]

LinX and use all the RAM. 32m just doesn't last long enough regardless of what it stresses.

 

[cdawall]

LinX and use all the RAM. 32m just doesn't last long enough regardless of what it stresses.

if it will pass 32m it will pass 3d benchmarks and from what i have done as long as you don't do anything to stupid it shows benchable stability which is all i ask for out of anything

 

[cadaveca]

if it will pass 32m it will pass 3d benchmarks and from what i have done as long as you don't do anything to stupid it shows benchable stability which is all i ask for out of anything

And that's why your ram is different. I can run 2300mhz 9-9-9 @ 1.71, 24/7. You cannot. Benching isn't what I'm after...otherwise I'd have GTX2's. THAT would have been $800 though, and a bit more than I wanted to spend, really...I can do 920 CAS6 no problem....


Still waiting for your 2300mhz screenies...YOUR screenies!

Heck, let's see 850 5-6-5, if ya want just benchable! AMD can do that...Let's see how YOUR ram can do.

 

[cdawall]

And that's why your ram is different. I can run 2300mhz 9-9-9 @ 1.71, 24/7. You cannot. Benching isn't what I'm after...otherwise I'd have GTX2's. THAT would have been $800 though, and a bit more than I wanted to spend, really...I can do 920 CAS6 no problem....


Still waiting for your 2300mhz screenies...YOUR screenies!

Heck, let's see 850 5-6-5, if ya want just benchable! AMD can do that...Let's see how YOUR ram can do.

how can i post 2300mhz screen shots there isn't a rent a i7 store around here i'll go back and try 850 5-6-5 for you right now actually

as for 2300 24/7 my sticks have been proven at 2200 CL8 on XS 24/7 by alot of big names

 

[cadaveca]

how can i post 2300mhz screen shots there isn't a rent a i7 store around here i'll go back and try 850 5-6-5 for you right now actually

as for 2300 24/7 my sticks have been proven at 2200 CL8 on XS 24/7 by alot of big names

But other people's sticks are NOT your sticks. We aren't talknig about other people's stuff, just ours.


Otherwise, why'd ya post in the first place? Of course there's bigger and better than what I got...I don't care one bit. I posted a 3600mhz/1600 CAS6/8GB screenie...hardly anything spectacular.

way overpriced my $100 sticks do that just fine (higher volts of course)

Cleary you thought I was bragging, but that has nothing to do with it.

 

[erocker]

On a side note "Rent an i7 store" is a damn good idea.

 

[Mussels]

Remember I am runnin' 8 gigs of DDR2. 800Mhz is max due to the memory controller. If I lower it to 4 gigs I can run 5-5-5-12 1066 all day on stock voltage. I've done it. My question is should I lower my timings or leave well enough alone?

1090T cant hack it? maybe thats why i'm having issues... i'm finding that 800Mhz is the only stable setting as well (2x2 + 2x1 due to heatspreaders hitting CPU cooler)

1066 cas 5 is terrible even for 2x2gb I have had crucial reds back in the day running 1260+ cas6-5-6-16 on an rb-c1 phenom 2

duhhh what? lower is faster for timings. cas 5 is faster than cas 6...

my hynix sticks run 1066 with 6-6-6-16 @ 1.96V, the board wont boot under that.

i'ma try settings like that once i get off work.

Well I'm going to install Vantage later tonight and bench her with 4 gig at 1066. My old score was 16,563. Ill post back with the new score.

FYI this is what they look like....

http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/Patriot_2GB_DDR3-2000MHz_Viper/main.jpg

i'm running two of those, and two samsung generic 1110Mhz sticks

For me it's strange. Gaming loves what I'm at now, 1400mhz 6 6-6-18 timings. It also likes 1800mhz 8 8-8-24. It however does not like my ram too much at 1600mhz 7 7-7-21. Perhaps I should try 7 7-7-19 or something...

i remember asking OCZ tony about that kind of thing years ago with DDR1, his response was in relation to people running below 2-2-2-5. He said that if you ran the last number (the 5, whatever its called, i forgot) too fast it causes something of a mismatch and pointed out that JEDEC timings tend to add up. 5+5+5=15 with DDR2, for example.

at the time he suggested the first three timings + 2 should be that final number (so 2-2-2-8, or 5-5-5-17). claimed that in say, superpi 1M it made it slower, but it was often faster in the longer tests like superpi 32M

(this may or may not still be true, could have been the specific motherboard we were discussing at the time - but it may be why you're seeing what you're seeing)... tighter isnt always FASTER

 

[cdawall]

But other people's sticks are NOT your sticks. We aren't talknig about other people's stuff, just ours.


Otherwise, why'd ya post in the first place? Of course there's bigger and better than what I got...I don't care one bit. I posted a 3600mhz/1600 CAS6/8GB screenie...hardly anything spectacular.



Cleary you thought I was bragging, but that has nothing to do with it.

i found you to be flaunting a waste of money

On a side note "Rent an i7 store" is a damn good idea.

i do believe it is

 

[cdawall]

1090T cant hack it? maybe thats why i'm having issues... i'm finding that 800Mhz is the only stable setting as well (2x2 + 2x1 due to heatspreaders hitting CPU cooler)




duhhh what? lower is faster for timings. cas 5 is faster than cas 6...



i'ma try settings like that once i get off work.

there are old SS that showed my sticks 800 cas4 1066 cas5 and 1266 cas6 and 1266 was the best in everything

 

[cadaveca]

On a side note "Rent an i7 store" is a damn good idea.

If only it was possible...although, they do rent-to-own pc's don't they...surely you could rent for just a month or something?

i found you to be flaunting a waste of money

So? I buy what I want...Jealous much? I don't see you knocking Fit's rig...


Like c'mon dude, we're both better than this. I don't even have a job...