• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 1536 MB

Joined
Jul 19, 2006
Messages
43,606 (6.50/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard ASUS TUF x670e
Cooling EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans.
Memory 32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz
Video Card(s) Asus RTX 4090
Storage WD m.2
Display(s) LG C2 Evo OLED 42"
Case Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo
Audio Device(s) Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp.
Power Supply FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W
Mouse Razer Basilisk V3 Pro
Keyboard Tester84
Software Windows 11
What? Really? What? Given that the 6870 is the replacement at best for the 5850, please do compare the 5850 performance in unigine heaven compared to the 6870 (link below). Unigine is a good guide at tesselation power - thus why the 580 kicks ass on it. But the 6870 clearly does tesselation far better than a 5850 (about 30% better at 1920).

Sometimes your posts are a wee bitty PRO nvidia and you downtalk AMD far too much and without logic (this tesselation talk being an example). And i'm not a fanboi of AMD - i'm trying very hard to not buy an Nvidia card (waiting for the competition so i can compare) but i really do like the new 580.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6870_Turbo/25.html

Member name gives it away. If I wasn't a moderator I would just ignore such people/posts. Plus, this review really has nothing to do with ATi cards.
 
Joined
Oct 8, 2009
Messages
2,047 (0.37/day)
Location
Republic of Texas
Processor R9 5950x
Motherboard Asus x570 Crosshair VIII Formula
Cooling EK 360mm AIO D-RGB
Memory G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16gb (CL16@3800MHz)
Video Card(s) PNY GeForce RTX 3090 24GB
Storage Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB NVMe | Intel 660p 2TB NVMe
Display(s) Acer Predator XB323QK 4K 144Hz
Case Corsair 5000D Airflow
Audio Device(s) Objective2 Amp/DAC | GoXLR | AKG K612PRO | Beyerdynamic DT880| Rode Pod Mic
Power Supply Corsair AX 850w
Mouse Razer DeathAdder Elite V2
Keyboard Corsair K95 Platinum RGB "Cherry MX Brown"
VR HMD Oculus Rift
Software Window 11 Pro
grear review w1zz :respect: and a great card :rockout:

bring on 6970 review! me want new card! im always about price/performance
 

wolf

Better Than Native
Joined
May 7, 2007
Messages
8,175 (1.27/day)
System Name MightyX
Processor Ryzen 9800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X650I AX
Cooling Scythe Fuma 2
Memory 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30
Video Card(s) Asus TUF RTX3080 Deshrouded
Storage WD Black SN850X 2TB
Display(s) LG 42C2 4K OLED
Case Coolermaster NR200P
Audio Device(s) LG SN5Y / Focal Clear
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RBG Pro SE
Keyboard Glorious GMMK Compact w/pudding
VR HMD Meta Quest 3
Software case populated with Artic P12's
Benchmark Scores 4k120 OLED Gsync bliss
It looks like GTX580 is far more power efficient. Thanks to Anandtech all your doubts should be answered. :)



http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4012/33985.pnghttp://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4012/33986.png

So it turns out that the reference GTX580 comes with a higher voltage although it probably doesn't need it. Well, it's probably a measure to improve yields, but just like with the 480 newer cards will probably get better as the chip matures in future batches and partners will start cherry picking them and offer the GTX580 equivalents of the GTX480 cards you are mentioning.

great info there man cheers for posting it.

I for one think it's a feat all unto itself how well Nvidia refined essentially the same GPU.

they've gotten between 15-20% more performance through better yeilds, reworking circutry at many different areas of the GPU, and of course more aggressive clockspeeds.

not only that but will solidly whooping a GTX480 in every game or test it consumes less power, and makes less noise.

it would be commendable IMO to keep the same performance and reduce power useage and noise, just remember they did that and added 15%+ more power. not freakin bad at all for a refresh.

t'aint next gen, but it restores some of my faith in Nvidia. Jen Hsun must have been pissed when GF100 went tits up, but this goes to show he's comitted to solutions.
 

qubit

Overclocked quantum bit
Joined
Dec 6, 2007
Messages
17,865 (2.88/day)
Location
Quantum Well UK
System Name Quantumville™
Processor Intel Core i7-2700K @ 4GHz
Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB (2 x 8GB Corsair Vengeance Black DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz)
Video Card(s) MSI RTX 2080 SUPER Gaming X Trio
Storage Samsung 850 Pro 256GB | WD Black 4TB | WD Blue 6TB
Display(s) ASUS ROG Strix XG27UQR (4K, 144Hz, G-SYNC compatible) | Asus MG28UQ (4K, 60Hz, FreeSync compatible)
Case Cooler Master HAF 922
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty PCIe
Power Supply Corsair AX1600i
Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Pro - Black Shadow
Keyboard Yes
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
+1 wolf

Just look at AMD. They misfired pretty badly with the HD 2900 three years ago. That chip was supposed to take out the 8800 GTX, but ended up being hot and embarrassingly slow in the benchmarks at stock clocks. Then look at how AMD came back with the 4000 series. Sounds similar to nvidia's misfire this year, doesn't it?
 

newtekie1

Semi-Retired Folder
Joined
Nov 22, 2005
Messages
28,473 (4.10/day)
Location
Indiana, USA
Processor Intel Core i7 10850K@5.2GHz
Motherboard AsRock Z470 Taichi
Cooling Corsair H115i Pro w/ Noctua NF-A14 Fans
Memory 32GB DDR4-3600
Video Card(s) RTX 2070 Super
Storage 500GB SX8200 Pro + 8TB with 1TB SSD Cache
Display(s) Acer Nitro VG280K 4K 28"
Case Fractal Design Define S
Audio Device(s) Onboard is good enough for me
Power Supply eVGA SuperNOVA 1000w G3
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
great info there man cheers for posting it.

I for one think it's a feat all unto itself how well Nvidia refined essentially the same GPU.

they've gotten between 15-20% more performance through better yeilds, reworking circutry at many different areas of the GPU, and of course more aggressive clockspeeds.

not only that but will solidly whooping a GTX480 in every game or test it consumes less power, and makes less noise.

it would be commendable IMO to keep the same performance and reduce power useage and noise, just remember they did that and added 15%+ more power. not freakin bad at all for a refresh.

t'aint next gen, but it restores some of my faith in Nvidia. Jen Hsun must have been pissed when GF100 went tits up, but this goes to show he's comitted to solutions.

As I mentioned though, I don't know how much of these improvements come from the GPU rework itself, and how much comes from the improved cooler design. Since W1z showed that a GTX480 is capable of similar power number when the GPU runs cooler.
 

wolf

Better Than Native
Joined
May 7, 2007
Messages
8,175 (1.27/day)
System Name MightyX
Processor Ryzen 9800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X650I AX
Cooling Scythe Fuma 2
Memory 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30
Video Card(s) Asus TUF RTX3080 Deshrouded
Storage WD Black SN850X 2TB
Display(s) LG 42C2 4K OLED
Case Coolermaster NR200P
Audio Device(s) LG SN5Y / Focal Clear
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RBG Pro SE
Keyboard Glorious GMMK Compact w/pudding
VR HMD Meta Quest 3
Software case populated with Artic P12's
Benchmark Scores 4k120 OLED Gsync bliss
As I mentioned though, I don't know how much of these improvements come from the GPU rework itself, and how much comes from the improved cooler design. Since W1z showed that a GTX480 is capable of similar power number when the GPU runs cooler.

I guess it wouldnt be that hard to force the fan to run slower, and heat up the GPU to the mid 90's and see how power fares at that temperature.

however from all of the good reviews I've read, Nvidia really did tackle the GF100 GPU to the ground, pull it's pants down and tear it a new one. major work has been done to the GPU if the reviewers are to be believed. it really is a pity it took so long but this is what the GTX480 should have been.

and still, for it to get so close to a 5970 is a feat all unto itself, lightly overclocked cards will likely match or exceed it. no matter which way you look at it it's a butload of power for one GPU to have.

I'd love to see 5970CF vs GTX580 SLi, quad GPU scaling ftl.

EDIT: some info on what changed between GF100 and GF110;

Little did we know at the time, but back in February of this year, before the first GF100 chips even shipped in commercial products, the decision had been made in the halls of Nvidia to produce a new spin of the silicon known as GF110. The goal: to reduce power consumption while improving performance. To get there, Nvidia engineers scoured each block of the chip, employing lower-leakage transistors in less timing-sensitive logic and higher-speed transistors in critical paths, better adapting the design to TSMC's 40-nm fabrication process.

At the same time, they made a few targeted tweaks to the chip's 3D graphics hardware to further boost performance. The first enhancement was also included in the GF104, a fact we didn't initially catch. The texturing units can filter 16-bit floating-point textures at full speed, whereas most of today's GPUs filter this larger format at half their peak speed. The additional filtering oomph should improve frame rates in games where FP16 texture formats are used, most prominently with high-dynamic-range (HDR) lighting algorithms. HDR lighting is fairly widely used these days, so the change is consequential. The caveat is that the GPU must have the bandwidth needed to take advantage of the additional filtering capacity. Of course, the GF110 has gobs of bandwidth compared to most.

The second enhancement is unique to GF110: an improvement in Z-culling efficiency. Z culling is the process of ruling out pixels based on their depth; if a pixel won't be visible in the final, rendered scene because another pixel is in front of it, the GPU can safely neglect lighting and shading the occluded pixel. More efficient Z culling can boost performance generally, although the Z-cull capabilities of current GPUs are robust enough that the impact of this tweak is likely to be modest.

The third change is pretty subtle. In the Fermi architecture, the shader multiprocessors (SMs) have 64KB of local data storage that can be partitioned either as 16KB of L1 cache and 48KB of shared memory or vice-versa. When the GF100 is in a graphics context, the SM storage is partitioned in a 16KB L1 cache/48KB shared memory configuration. The 48KB/16KB config is only available for GPU computing contexts. The GF110 is capable of running with a 48KB L1 cache/16KB shared memory split for graphics, which Nvidia says "helps certain types of shaders."
 
Last edited:
Joined
Aug 20, 2010
Messages
209 (0.04/day)
Location
Mostar, Bosnia & Herzegovina
System Name Micro Mule
Processor Intel i7 950 Stock + Noctua NH-C14
Motherboard Asus Rampage III Gene MicroATX
Cooling Noctua 120mm/80m Fans
Memory Crucial Ballistix 6GB DDR3 1600MHz
Video Card(s) Asus nVidia GTX 580
Storage Samsung 850 Pro SSD, WD Caviar Black 2TB HDD
Display(s) LG 42LD650 42" LCD HDTV
Case Silverstone Fortress FT03
Audio Device(s) Creative SB X-Fi Titanium HD + Sennheiser PC360 Headset
Power Supply Corsair AX850 - 850W Modular Gold
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
... I am not red nor green; I just speak my mind; and what I think is that AMD has been surprised by the unexpected launch and performance of the GTX 580, as everyone else have ... we were only expecting a dual GF104 Chip or a fully-enabled GF104 GPU from nVidia and no one was expecting a "proper" GF100 (i.e. GF 110) chip GPU, but nVidia managed to keep a good secret long enough to surprise competition. Now, the ball is in AMD's court; AMD has had a year now since they launched the 5870 & 5970 and has no excuse in my opinion not to build single-chip GPUs that can outperform the GTX 580, but if they couldn't, that'll definitely mean that 2011 is going to be nVidia's year, especially that the GTX 560 & GTX 570 should be on the way ...
 
Joined
Jan 2, 2009
Messages
9,899 (1.70/day)
Location
Essex, England
System Name My pc
Processor Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus Rog b450-f
Cooling Cooler master 120mm aio
Memory 16gb ddr4 3200mhz
Video Card(s) MSI Ventus 3x 3070
Storage 2tb intel nvme and 2tb generic ssd
Display(s) Generic dell 1080p overclocked to 75hz
Case Phanteks enthoo
Power Supply 650w of borderline fire hazard
Mouse Some wierd Chinese vertical mouse
Keyboard Generic mechanical keyboard
Software Windows ten
+1 wolf

Just look at AMD. They misfired pretty badly with the HD 2900 three years ago. That chip was supposed to take out the 8800 GTX, but ended up being hot and embarrassingly slow in the benchmarks at stock clocks. Then look at how AMD came back with the 4000 series. Sounds similar to nvidia's misfire this year, doesn't it?

Regarding the 2900xt, nearly bought one the other day to experience , but just why did it do so badly, fermi type troubles?

Because it's specs are damn good! :laugh: ( for the time)

Did decent cooling yield good results?
 

Benetanegia

New Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2009
Messages
2,680 (0.48/day)
Location
Reaching your left retina.
As I mentioned though, I don't know how much of these improvements come from the GPU rework itself, and how much comes from the improved cooler design. Since W1z showed that a GTX480 is capable of similar power number when the GPU runs cooler.

Look at the entire Anand review. Temps are exactly the same for both GTX580 models, ut power consumption on the Asus one is much lower.



Here's some results from the GTX480 lightning:




As you can see the temperatures are lower on this one thanks to a much better cooler and because of that (and PCB, etc) the card consumes the same as the reference GTX480 despite running at 750 Mhz and having a stock voltage of 1.06 V. So yeah temps do help power consumption, but look at this small comparison between Wizzard reviewed GTX480 Lightning/reference and reference GTX580:

GTX480 reference - 700 Mhz - 0.99 V - 96 ºC - 320 W Furmark - 257 W peak
GTX480 Lightning - 750 Mhz - 1.06 V - 71 ºC - 321 W Furmark - 230 W peak
GTX580 reference - 772 Mhz - 1.05 V - 86 ºC - 306 W Furmark - 226 W peak
Asus 580 in Anand - 782 Mhz - 1.00 V - 87 ºC - (*) 280 W Fur - (*) 206 W peak

*Estimated from Anand's results. As the Asus one consumes 26w less under Furmark and 20 W less on Crysis.

On top pf that I would say that the MSI Lighting is made of cores that have been cherry picked, while the Aus one is a launch product, there sure is room from improvement.

Bottom line is IMHO:

1- The GTX580 does consume much less, especially considering it has more SPs enabled and the consequent performance improvement.

2- Nvidia should definately change whoever makes them reference cards.
 

the54thvoid

Super Intoxicated Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Dec 14, 2009
Messages
13,051 (2.39/day)
Location
Glasgow - home of formal profanity
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi)
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 32GB Kingston Fury
Video Card(s) Gainward RTX4070ti
Storage Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb
Display(s) LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC
Case Asus Prime AP201
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0)
Software W10
Bottom line is IMHO:

1- The GTX580 does consume much less, especially considering it has more SPs enabled and the consequent performance improvement.

2- Nvidia should definately change whoever makes them reference cards.

It really depends what you read.

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=27307&page=16 similar draw
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1950&pageID=9757 similar draw
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_580/25.html lower draw
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-580/17 lower draw
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...rce-gtx-580-sli-review-power-temps-noise.html lower draw

Some sites have awfully low power draws, others have marginal lower (~ 20 Watts) others have the same and Guru 3D had a shit engineering card with much higher draw.

I think focussing on power consumption though is a moot point. What i see as vaild is it's other performance figures. This review (below) shows the problems faced by crossfire set ups. This is why i will be going single card come December (Red or Green, unsure).

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/revie...oc-crossfire-vs-radeon-5970-introduction.html

The 6870 crossfire and 5970 beat the GTX 580 in : BFBC2, AvP, poorer MINIMUM fps in Crysis, COD Black Ops (is a crock of shit and NV optimised for 580 - i have friends that cant play it with a GTX 260 - console port ahoy!), F1 2020 runs poorly on dual gpu, Fallout New Vegas is slower on dual gpu...

Basically, though the crossfire set ups are quicker technically, unless the game is optimised they run worse.

I'm just a little concerned the GTX 580 is so much better simply because they put on a superior cooler, thats been around on AIC/AIB cards for ages. I'm waiting for other cards and reviews before i decide.

EDit: just found this review - GTX 580 beats things across the board (480, 480 OC, 480 lightning etc) but on unigine the OC GTX 480 Lightning beats the OC GTX 580. Except in Minimum FPS (512 cores versus 480?)
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/zotac_gtx580_review/5
 
Last edited:
Joined
Jan 20, 2010
Messages
868 (0.16/day)
Location
Toronto, ON. Canada
System Name Gamers PC
Processor AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 3.80 GHz
Motherboard MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3
Cooling Corsair H50 Cooler
Memory Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1333
Video Card(s) XFX Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5
Storage 2 x WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA300 w/64MB Buffer (RAID 0)
Display(s) Samsung 2494SW 1080p 24" WS LCD HD
Case CM HAF 932 Full Tower Case
Audio Device(s) Creative SB X-FI TITANIUM -PCIE x 1
Power Supply Corsair TX Series CMPSU-650TX (650W)
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
I think I wait for HD 6970. The 580 is fast and much better than 480 but IMO only good for helping competition and to drop price of graphics cards. I feel the 580 should have been much much faster for the high price they ask.
 

wolf

Better Than Native
Joined
May 7, 2007
Messages
8,175 (1.27/day)
System Name MightyX
Processor Ryzen 9800X3D
Motherboard Gigabyte X650I AX
Cooling Scythe Fuma 2
Memory 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30
Video Card(s) Asus TUF RTX3080 Deshrouded
Storage WD Black SN850X 2TB
Display(s) LG 42C2 4K OLED
Case Coolermaster NR200P
Audio Device(s) LG SN5Y / Focal Clear
Power Supply Corsair SF750 Platinum
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RBG Pro SE
Keyboard Glorious GMMK Compact w/pudding
VR HMD Meta Quest 3
Software case populated with Artic P12's
Benchmark Scores 4k120 OLED Gsync bliss
... I am not red nor green; I just speak my mind; and what I think is that AMD has been surprised by the unexpected launch and performance of the GTX 580, as everyone else have ... we were only expecting a dual GF104 Chip or a fully-enabled GF104 GPU from nVidia and no one was expecting a "proper" GF100 (i.e. GF 110) chip GPU, but nVidia managed to keep a good secret long enough to surprise competition. Now, the ball is in AMD's court; AMD has had a year now since they launched the 5870 & 5970 and has no excuse in my opinion not to build single-chip GPUs that can outperform the GTX 580, but if they couldn't, that'll definitely mean that 2011 is going to be nVidia's year, especially that the GTX 560 & GTX 570 should be on the way ...
http://images.bit-tech.net/blog/201...the-geforce-500-series/gtx-500-prediction.jpg

those 500 series estimates look well possible from their currant lineup, at least specs and speed wise.

GTX570 will be GF110 with near GTX480 performance, should be considerably less power consumption too.
GTX560 is the fully enabled and clocked up GF104 we've been waiting for.
GTS550 is also a fully enabled GF106, and clocked up, giving it considerably more performance IMO, given at the moment it lacks 50% of its ROPS and memory bandwidth.
 

Benetanegia

New Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2009
Messages
2,680 (0.48/day)
Location
Reaching your left retina.

But once again it depends on which cards those reviews are comparing. Hexus and bjorn3D are comparing GTX580 reference against Asus and Galaxy GTX480's which are much more refined than reference designs. Compare Asus GTX480 to the Asus GTX480 in Anandtech and you are going to be closer to the truth. My guess is that the reference card is made so that every candidate can attain the required specs, even the really "bad ones", it's like playing a lot on the safe side, because every card that can be released at launch counts, due to arguably high demand and low supply. In the meantime important partners like Asus (just as an example) get better candidates and they also do some binning themselves and by getting rid of the worst ones* they can improve a lot over the reference design, using far lower voltages to do the same thing. A lot of this has already happened with GTX480's and GTX470's on the wild, which have much much better thermals and power consumption than the reference ones reviewed at launch.

*You could be surprised how much it can improve if you get rid of only the worst 2% (because of Normal or Gaussian distribution you know) and because they are getting rid of 2% or lets say 5%, they just need to sell them at 2-5% higher price or just rely in the higher number sales derived from being the best supplier for that card.
 
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
4,931 (0.74/day)
Location
Hong Kong
Processor Core i7-12700k
Motherboard Z690 Aero G D4
Cooling Custom loop water, 3x 420 Rad
Video Card(s) RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming
Storage Plextor M10P 2TB
Display(s) InnoCN 27M2V
Case Thermaltake Level 20 XT
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
Power Supply FSP Aurum PT 1200W
Software Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
Regarding the 2900xt, nearly bought one the other day to experience , but just why did it do so badly, fermi type troubles?

Because it's specs are damn good! :laugh: ( for the time)

Did decent cooling yield good results?
The HD2900 felt really hard on its face because it have such an abyssmal default clock. (Yes yield/power consumption problems)
That and the fact that the SP on the R600 was severely under-utilized.
So the first thing that changed in the RV770 (4870/4850) is that they added a ton of SPs to the thing.
 

Over_Lord

News Editor
Joined
Oct 13, 2010
Messages
764 (0.15/day)
Location
Hyderabad
System Name BAH! - - tHE ECo FReAK
Processor Athlon II X4 620 @ 1.15V
Motherboard ASUS 785G EVO
Cooling Stock
Memory Corsair Titanium 4GB DDR3 1600MHz C9
Video Card(s) Sapphire HD5850 @ 1.049v
Storage Seagate 7200.12 500GB
Display(s) BenQ G2220HD
Case Cooler Master Elite 334
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Corsair VX550W
Software Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Look at the entire Anand review. Temps are exactly the same for both GTX580 models, ut power consumption on the Asus one is much lower.

Read the 1st page of review. The ASUS card uses a voltage of 1.00v, reference in 1.025v..

That alone makes a HUGE difference in power consumption.
 

Wile E

Power User
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
24,318 (3.67/day)
System Name The ClusterF**k
Processor 980X @ 4Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 BIOS F12
Cooling MCR-320, DDC-1 pump w/Bitspower res top (1/2" fittings), Koolance CPU-360
Memory 3x2GB Mushkin Redlines 1600Mhz 6-8-6-24 1T
Video Card(s) Evga GTX 580
Storage Corsair Neutron GTX 240GB, 2xSeagate 320GB RAID0; 2xSeagate 3TB; 2xSamsung 2TB; Samsung 1.5TB
Display(s) HP LP2475w 24" 1920x1200 IPS
Case Technofront Bench Station
Audio Device(s) Auzentech X-Fi Forte into Onkyo SR606 and Polk TSi200's + RM6750
Power Supply ENERMAX Galaxy EVO EGX1250EWT 1250W
Software Win7 Ultimate N x64, OSX 10.8.4
Regarding the 2900xt, nearly bought one the other day to experience , but just why did it do so badly, fermi type troubles?

Because it's specs are damn good! :laugh: ( for the time)

Did decent cooling yield good results?

Extreme cooling yielded excellent results. Air cooling was useless on the card. AA absolutely crippled the card tho. It was mostly a good bencher's card.

The card had high leakage, and was a heat monster. It was in fermi territory for heat output.
 
Joined
Jan 2, 2008
Messages
3,296 (0.53/day)
System Name Thakk
Processor i7 6700k @ 4.5Ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte G1 Z170N ITX
Cooling H55 AIO
Memory 32GB DDR4 3100 c16
Video Card(s) Zotac RTX3080 Trinity
Storage Corsair Force GT 120GB SSD / Intel 250GB SSD / Samsung Pro 512 SSD / 3TB Seagate SV32
Display(s) Acer Predator X34 100hz IPS Gsync / HTC Vive
Case QBX
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC1150 > Creative Gigaworks T40 > AKG Q701
Power Supply Corsair SF600
Mouse Logitech G900
Keyboard Ducky Shine TKL MX Blue + Vortex PBT Doubleshots
Software Windows 10 64bit
Benchmark Scores http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12108888
Wow, this thing is cooler, faster and more power efficient indeed.. they were not exaggerating. 850 core is easy without voltage tweaks :D
 
Joined
Jan 2, 2009
Messages
9,899 (1.70/day)
Location
Essex, England
System Name My pc
Processor Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Asus Rog b450-f
Cooling Cooler master 120mm aio
Memory 16gb ddr4 3200mhz
Video Card(s) MSI Ventus 3x 3070
Storage 2tb intel nvme and 2tb generic ssd
Display(s) Generic dell 1080p overclocked to 75hz
Case Phanteks enthoo
Power Supply 650w of borderline fire hazard
Mouse Some wierd Chinese vertical mouse
Keyboard Generic mechanical keyboard
Software Windows ten
Cheers for 2900xt info, is it bad your words have only made it more tempting?

I can get one for £29.75 from work, but seems expensive ( this is including my discount)



I can't wait to see clocks on gf110 with water or epic aircooling.
 

the54thvoid

Super Intoxicated Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Dec 14, 2009
Messages
13,051 (2.39/day)
Location
Glasgow - home of formal profanity
Processor Ryzen 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar B650 (wifi)
Cooling be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4
Memory 32GB Kingston Fury
Video Card(s) Gainward RTX4070ti
Storage Seagate FireCuda 530 M.2 1TB / Samsumg 960 Pro M.2 512Gb
Display(s) LG 32" 165Hz 1440p GSYNC
Case Asus Prime AP201
Audio Device(s) On Board
Power Supply be quiet! Pure POwer M12 850w Gold (ATX3.0)
Software W10
UK availability of GTX 580 is very low.

As of writing this:

E-Buyer - pre order
Aria - pre order
Novatech - pre order
Scan - 3 of 11 lines in stock
Overclockers UK - 1 of 11 lines in stock (4 of @ £450!!!)

Methinks this launch, though real was very much a 6970 pre-empt. There simply isn't much stock around - wasn't to start, probably less than a hundred units over those 5 stores and prices vary from £394 (pre-order) up past £450.

But it worked regardless. I like the GTX 580. But i'm thinking, hmm, how many are there? I hope production is ramped up and not used to feed the 570/560 lines.

I also think HD6970 will be the same. Few at launch, if they do get the 13th Dec nailed.
 
Joined
Oct 1, 2010
Messages
2,361 (0.46/day)
Location
Marlow, ENGLAND
System Name Chachamaru-IV | Retro Battlestation
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X | Intel Pentium II 450MHz
Motherboard ASUS ROG STRIX X570-F Gaming | MSI MS-6116 (Intel 440BX chipset)
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
Memory 32GB Corsair DDR4-3000 (16-20-20-38) | 512MB PC133 SDRAM
Video Card(s) nVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 FE | 3dfx Voodoo3 3000
Storage 1TB WD_Black SN850 NVME SSD (OS), Toshiba 3TB (Storage), Toshiba 3TB (Steam)
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G5 27" @ 1440p144 & Dell P2312H @ 1080p60
Case SilverStone Seta A1 | Beige box
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster AE-7 (Speakers), Creative Zen Hybrid headset | Sound Blaster AWE64
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 750 G2 | 250W ASETEC
Mouse Roccat Kone Air| Microsoft Serial Mouse v2.0A
Keyboard Vortex Race3 | Dell AT102W
Software Microsoft Windows 11 Pro | Microsoft Windows 98SE
eBuyer said they would have some in on the 11th. Tho my order has now been placed instead of there being a stock warning...
 

Paintface

New Member
Joined
Jul 3, 2008
Messages
389 (0.06/day)
Processor E5200 @ 3.7ghz
Motherboard DFI LanParty DK P35 DARK
Cooling Zalman CPU + case cooling
Memory OCZ Reaper HPC DDR2 4GB 1066
Video Card(s) Saphire 4890 Vapor-X OCed
Storage Raptor 74GB + 640GB sata + 1TB sata ( all WD)
Display(s) BENQ 24inch LCD 1080p
Case my desk
Audio Device(s) Creative Audigy 2 ZS
Power Supply OCZ gameXstream 700w
Software Windows 7 x64 ultimate
Joined
Oct 1, 2010
Messages
2,361 (0.46/day)
Location
Marlow, ENGLAND
System Name Chachamaru-IV | Retro Battlestation
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X | Intel Pentium II 450MHz
Motherboard ASUS ROG STRIX X570-F Gaming | MSI MS-6116 (Intel 440BX chipset)
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
Memory 32GB Corsair DDR4-3000 (16-20-20-38) | 512MB PC133 SDRAM
Video Card(s) nVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 FE | 3dfx Voodoo3 3000
Storage 1TB WD_Black SN850 NVME SSD (OS), Toshiba 3TB (Storage), Toshiba 3TB (Steam)
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G5 27" @ 1440p144 & Dell P2312H @ 1080p60
Case SilverStone Seta A1 | Beige box
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster AE-7 (Speakers), Creative Zen Hybrid headset | Sound Blaster AWE64
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 750 G2 | 250W ASETEC
Mouse Roccat Kone Air| Microsoft Serial Mouse v2.0A
Keyboard Vortex Race3 | Dell AT102W
Software Microsoft Windows 11 Pro | Microsoft Windows 98SE
Would you guys say an i5 760 is superior to a Phenom II X4 965?
 
Joined
Mar 1, 2010
Messages
3,565 (0.66/day)
Location
By the Channel Tunnel, Kent, England
System Name Benny
Processor Phenom II 1055t @ 3.3GHz; 300x11; 1.380v; NB 2700; HT 2400
Motherboard ASUS Crosshair IV Formula (2002 BIOS)
Cooling Thermalright TRUE 120 Black + 2 Xilence Red Wing PWM 120mm (push/pull) + polycarbonate fan holders
Memory 8GB GeIL Ultra 2133MHZ C9 running at 1600MHz @ 7-7-7-21 1T 1.5v
Video Card(s) MSI Twin Frozr II GTX470 @ Stock w/CPU fan cable-tied on, as one of the GPU fans broke.
Storage 60GB OCZ Agility3 (OS);500GB WDC Grn; 1x1TB WDC Blk (Backup)
Display(s) ASUS PA823Q
Case Silverstone Raven 2 (all cables custom sleeved with velcro mod on side panel...)
Audio Device(s) X-Fi (Onboard) + Harmon Kardon HK6100 amp powering JVC HA-RX700's with Zalman mic
Power Supply Corsair HX650W
Software Win7 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores No benchies so making this space useful! Corsair M90, Logitech G19. Phobya FlexLight LED's (gawjus)
Joined
Oct 1, 2010
Messages
2,361 (0.46/day)
Location
Marlow, ENGLAND
System Name Chachamaru-IV | Retro Battlestation
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900X | Intel Pentium II 450MHz
Motherboard ASUS ROG STRIX X570-F Gaming | MSI MS-6116 (Intel 440BX chipset)
Cooling Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4
Memory 32GB Corsair DDR4-3000 (16-20-20-38) | 512MB PC133 SDRAM
Video Card(s) nVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 FE | 3dfx Voodoo3 3000
Storage 1TB WD_Black SN850 NVME SSD (OS), Toshiba 3TB (Storage), Toshiba 3TB (Steam)
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G5 27" @ 1440p144 & Dell P2312H @ 1080p60
Case SilverStone Seta A1 | Beige box
Audio Device(s) Creative Sound Blaster AE-7 (Speakers), Creative Zen Hybrid headset | Sound Blaster AWE64
Power Supply EVGA Supernova 750 G2 | 250W ASETEC
Mouse Roccat Kone Air| Microsoft Serial Mouse v2.0A
Keyboard Vortex Race3 | Dell AT102W
Software Microsoft Windows 11 Pro | Microsoft Windows 98SE
Would you guys reccommend the Intel or the AMD? I'm tempted to go AMD again, but I'm just worried that it won't be up to the task of supporting my 580.
 

bear jesus

New Member
Joined
Aug 12, 2010
Messages
1,534 (0.29/day)
Location
Britland
System Name Gaming temp// HTPC
Processor AMD A6 5400k // A4 5300
Motherboard ASRock FM2A75 PRO4// ASRock FM2A55M-DGS
Cooling Xigmatek HDT-D1284 // stock phenom II HSF
Memory 4GB 1600mhz corsair vengeance // 4GB 1600mhz corsair vengeance low profile
Storage 64gb sandisk pulse SSD and 500gb HDD // 500gb HDD
Display(s) acer 22" 1680x1050
Power Supply Seasonic G-450 // Corsair CXM 430W
Would you guys reccommend the Intel or the AMD? I'm tempted to go AMD again, but I'm just worried that it won't be up to the task of supporting my 580.

I would say go with AMD if you intend to overclock, if you intend to leave your cpu at stock speeds i would expect an i7 to be the better buy than i5 or anything from AMD.

My phenom 965 at 4ghz does pretty well at keeping up with my pair of 6870's but i admit an overclocked i7 would feed them better but only as i have 2 cards, i hope to go back to a single card soon so that i can keep my phenom a little longer without it holding me back.

It seems they're close. I'm guessing the i5 when OC'ed will be the better performer.

From that i would also say overclocked i5, if you can bump it up closer to 4ghz would beat out then phenom at around 4ghz.
 
Top