TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[JrRacinFan]

when you primed did you do small FFt's with no memory? I suggest doing a memtest86 from a boot flash drive to see if you ram is producing the errors, mine was.

Smalls without. Memtested a while ago but will try that.

EDIT:

Single pass went ok.

 

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

Smalls without. Memtested a while ago but will try that.

EDIT:

Single pass went ok.

My only next idea then is to uninstall the BOINC Manager and do a fresh installation. See if it send you work.

 

[JrRacinFan]

My only next idea then is to uninstall the BOINC Manager and do a fresh installation. See if it send you work.

Tried that.

 

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

Tried that.

When I first rebuilt my rig with new mobo ram and CPU last week, It sent me 12 work units right away and there were always six ready to start and six being worked on. then when I oc'd my memory and return 22 errors in 5 minutes, I fixed my OC, lowered my CPU ran stability check and memtest to make sure all was good and it didn't send me more work right away. Was just the work left over that was being done - 6 wu's.

then when one unit got sent back it sent me only one more to work on at a time. Those units returned valid now it's sending me 2 at a time. Let me do some more research for you.

Edit: Are you doing all available projects? And can you post a screenie of the boinc client maximized on the messages tab?

 

[Chicken Patty]

Here are the people who seem to have had the most improvement in their ppd over the past 4 weeks.

Note: This based on taking Free-DC weekly total divided by 7 and then subtracting from that the 28 day total divided by 28. So (wk.total/7) - (28day total/28)

Obviously, this double counts the most current week and therefore isn't as good as say, comparing the daily avg over the past wk to the daily avg over the previous 3 wks, but I think it still works. The main flaw is that it doesn't give you as dramatic of a comparison as you might otherwise get.

F150_Raptor|12,058
GREASEMONKEY|6,994
bogmali|4,440
msgclb|2,431
jellyrole|1,892
twilyth|1,752
JrRacinFan|1,306
Qu4k3r|1,139
ChaoticAtmosphere|899
Niko084|800

Good job guys! On the other hand mine dropped a bit since I'm back to stock clocks, temps are getting really hot during the day. Had to back it down a bit.

 

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

No worries CP, winter's a comin!

@JrRacinFan Are you doing all available projects? And can you post a screenie of the boinc client maximized on the messages tab?

 

[Chicken Patty]

No worries CP, winter's a comin!

@JrRacinFan Are you doing all available projects? And can you post a screenie of the boinc client maximized on the messages tab?

Looking forward to it man, trust me.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Are you doing all available projects? And can you post a screenie of the boinc client maximized on the messages tab?

Wasn't but Ive been messing around with this and set it to use all now.

 

[twilyth]

Wasn't but Ive been messing around with this and set it to use all now.
http://img.techpowerup.org/110924/Capture045.jpg

So this is not the same rig as in the other thread where you had problems with bad wu's? Weird. I think something similar happened to me one time (where I was get that quota message on all 4 rigs) but I can't remember what the reason was. Have you taken a look at the WCG forums to see if there are any problems on their end? That's the only other thing I can think of off hand.

 

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

Wasn't but Ive been messing around with this and set it to use all now.
http://img.techpowerup.org/110924/Capture045.jpg

Ok Jr, don't mean to make you read but if you look at the last line in your screenie it says you reached your daily quota of 8 results.

Info about how all that works is right here: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,28636

EDIT: Here is your answer Jr:

Apparently WCG sees that specific rig as unreliable, Most likely because of your errors and the amount of time it takes to return results. just be patient and as you return more results that are valid WCG will start to increase your rig's daily quota.

 

[JrRacinFan]

So this is not the same rig as in the other thread where you had problems with bad wu's? Weird. I think something similar happened to me one time (where I was get that quota message on all 4 rigs) but I can't remember what the reason was. Have you taken a look at the WCG forums to see if there are any problems on their end? That's the only other thing I can think of off hand.

Same rig.

Ok Jr, don't mean to make you read but if you look at the last line in your screenie it says you reached your daily quota of 8 results.

Info about how all that works is right here: http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,28636

Thanks for the read through, I understand now why I can't get more work units although what i don't understand is how they error'ed in the first place. But how can I increase my daily quota when it won't let me get any work!?

 

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

Same rig.



Thanks for the read through, I understand now why I can't get more work units although what i don't understand is how they error'ed in the first place. But how can I increase my daily quota when it won't let me get any work!?

It will give you more work tomorrow. Most likely 8 units. Let your rig work on them as fast as possible and return them error free and valid. I would imagine as you continue to do this, the servers will automatically increase your quota.

EDIT: since your gaming rig returned erroneous results, has it 1. Returned any valid results within 24-48 hours of being assigned? and 2. Has it returned any other erroneous results?

I am assuming that it returned erroneous results soon after you started using that rig to crunch for the first time. Otherwise if your rig had been returning valid results for a year prior , WCG would have taken those into account and your quota reduction would not have been so bad. I've been crunching with my rig for 2 and a half years now and always returned valid results within hours of them being assigned. So that history is taken into account and so when I returned 22 wu's instantly erroneous in 5 minutes my quota reduction was not enough that it wouldn't back off from my rig. WCG still trusts it, Albeit only sending me 2 at a time instead of 6 now.

 

[JrRacinFan]

1. Returned any valid results within 24-48 hours of being assigned? 2. Has it returned any other erroneous results?

The only time it gave error'ed results was actually yesterday. Now it did give an invalid or 2 but that was my own doing(being careless with vcore and clock speed; set clock speed too high without taking note of vcore: 3.7Ghz 1.27v). Other than that everything else ran smooth and pretty sure it returns results within 3-4hrs.

Looks to have been starting to error out at ~915pm EST last night. And no I have been crunching this rig for a week now.

 

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

The only time it gave error'ed results was actually yesterday. Now it did give an invalid or 2 but that was my own doing(being careless with vcore and clock speed; set clock speed too high without taking note of vcore: 3.7Ghz 1.27v). Other than that everything else ran smooth and pretty sure it returns results within 3-4hrs.
http://img.techpowerup.org/110924/Capture047.jpg

Looks to have been starting to error out at ~915pm EST last night. And no I have been crunching this rig for a week now.

Ya you see, 1 week versus 3 months. If your rig is producing invalids still...I mean you get 8 wu's per day. Have you got any valids since the errors and invalids? If not, I recommend toning down your oc a bit.

What I do is I run AMD overdrive to see if my rig will return erroneous results in WCG. If you run a stability test with AMD overdrive and the test stops due to errors, then chances are the same will happen with BOINC. Just an observation I've made.

 

[twilyth]

Same rig.



Thanks for the read through, I understand now why I can't get more work units although what i don't understand is how they error'ed in the first place. But how can I increase my daily quota when it won't let me get any work!?

Well, it's letting you get 8 wu's per day. Just double check that those are coming back good. If they aren't good, then it will keep you on that quota until you return 1-2 days worth of good wu's.

However are you also asking what else could be causing bad wu's in light of the fact that you have stress tested with linpack, prime, etc.? If so, I don't know. Intel burn test, if you set it on max will bake your CPU but it will also test every byte of free memory. If you can do 5-10 runs on that successfully - you should have no problem returning good wu's. However, *****KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON TEMPS*****, they will get slightly higher on each run and on max, a single run with 16gig of memory can take 15-20minutes - maybe more. edit - I recommend running the graphing function of speedfan or another utility if you can watch IBT run every single minute.

OCCT is another option which should also be adequate but I don't think it tests all of your memory (not sure)

 

[JrRacinFan]

Thanks guys, it started reporting valid work again today. Guess I should have been more patient. I appreciate sticking it out with me.

 

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

It was my pleasure Jr.

 

[Pembo210]

 

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

Okay so I tinkered with my memory this weekend and sent 3 or 4 more wu's back with errors. I honestly believe this ram must be at 9-9-9 latency when over1300-1500Mhz. I even tried 8-9-9-27-41 cr1 @ 1680Mhz with a known stable CPU oc and i get BSOD so 9-9-9 it is. They are rated at 1.65v so I am not going to push the voltage any higher than that. This is a good stable overclock which I know for a fact does not produce errors on wu's.

 

[JrRacinFan]

From what I've learned; 1600 dram any timings is overclocking the IMC. Got to raise CPU/NB VID, had to set mine to 1.35v 1.38v for the timings in specs. I will edit this post later with full voltage information for you Chaotic. Be aware its an unlocked x2 though.

You helped me, time to help you.

 

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

From what I've learned; 1600 dram any timings is overclocking the IMC. Got to raise CPU/NB VID, had to set mine to 1.35v for the timings in specs. I will edit this post later with full voltage information for you Chaotic. Be aware its an unlocked x2 though.

You helped me, time to help you.

Ya VelvetWafer tried to help me but well, RAM throws me for a loop. Took me forever to figure out the relation of ram and bus speed with the ratios on my old M3A79-T. I got it faster on this current board. Stock these sticks run at 1066Mhz default. Well I guess you know that from the Jdec tab in my pic. I'm such a NoOb when it comes to ram.

 

[twilyth]

I think jdec is under the spd tab.

 

[JrRacinFan]

LOL...

That's actually very good for 1066 sticks. What might not help is that they are 4GB dimms as well. You're doing good with them.

 

[ChaoticAtmosphere]

I think jdec is under the spd tab.

See? I'm a NoOb

LOL...

That's actually very good for 1066 sticks. What might not help is that they are 4GB dimms as well. You're doing good with them.

Cool, I tried. I also read the link that Velvet directed me to and it stated that sometimes programs run faster at lower bus speeds, Like 1333 instead of 1667 etc., depending on your OC I guess too. I like things the way they are now. Very stable no errors in wu's and getting a lot more work done than my last rig.

 

[f22a4bandit]

Strange to hear about these BSODs. I hope everyone resolves their issues quickly!