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FireFox · Apr 5, 2015

I have silly silly very silly question

Does a Crunching Machine needs an Antivirus?
Cheers.

Heaven7 · Apr 5, 2015

I'd recommend to have an AV running, even if its a dedicated cruncher. You just never know what can happen. My dedicated machine in the basement runs fine with one installed. It's a lightweight one (AVG Free) and runs scans every 3 days. I personally would go the safe path, if I were you.

Norton · Apr 5, 2015

Heaven7 said:
I'd recommend to have an AV running, even if its a dedicated cruncher. You just never know what can happen. My dedicated machine in the basement runs fine with one installed. It's a lightweight one (AVG Free) and runs scans every 3 days. I personally would go the safe path, if I were you.

^^^This!

I run the Microsoft version on mine just to be safe for updates and such. Also, the connection between the rig and the servers at WCG is supposed to be secure but you never know for sure.....

FireFox · Apr 5, 2015

Heaven7 said:
I'd recommend to have an AV running, even if its a dedicated cruncher. You just never know what can happen. My dedicated machine in the basement runs fine with one installed. It's a lightweight one (AVG Free) and runs scans every 3 days. I personally would go the safe path, if I were you.

I am running AVG free, i just wanted to be sure if it was necesary.

Norton said:
updates

is it necesary to update Cruncher Machines?

stinger608 · Apr 5, 2015

Here is a real funny video of a math teacher messing with his class as an April Fools prank:

http://videosift.com/video/Very-Clever-April-Fools-Video-Prank-in-Math-Class

Check it out, its funny as hell.

Norton · Apr 5, 2015

Knoxx29 said:
is it necesary to update Cruncher Machines?

If you're running Windows there are always OS and driver updates as well as updates for whatever utilities you may be using for monitoring, etc...

FireFox · Apr 5, 2015

stinger608 said:
Here is a real funny video of a math teacher messing with his class as an April Fools prank:

http://videosift.com/video/Very-Clever-April-Fools-Video-Prank-in-Math-Class

Check it out, its funny as hell.

that was a good one.

FireFox · Apr 5, 2015

Norton said:
If you're running Windows there are always OS and driver updates as well as updates for whatever utilities you may be using for monitoring, etc...

That is right but i guess everytime you update a Crunching Machine you have to reboot and i dont know if that is a good idea, and is the same thing for the Antivirus, sometimes AVG says that i have to reboot.

Heaven7 · Apr 5, 2015

Knoxx29 said:
That is right but i guess everytime you update a Crunching Machine you have to reboot and i dont know if that is a good idea, and is the same thing for the Antivirus, sometimes AVG says that i have to reboot.

I was concerned about that, too. However, I've set my basement cruncher to automatically restart on power loss in the BIOS and check upon it every other day via remote access. AVG updates that require a restart are not so frequent, so I don't think you'll have a big problem there.
EDIT: Of course BOINC, Internet access and remote control - if you use it - need to autostart.

FireFox · Apr 5, 2015

Heaven7 said:
AVG updates that require a restart are not so frequent, so I don't think you'll have a big problem there.

It's a few days that AVG says that I have to restart but I don't do it because I don't to, I hate everytime I have to do it.

AlienIsGOD · Apr 5, 2015

i5 2400 is still crunching 24/7

i dont crunch with the 3570K as win 10 has blue screens for me sometimes (cpu z related) but once win 10 is retail i will bring the 3570K back online

Heaven7 · Apr 5, 2015

Knoxx29 said:
It's a few days that AVG says that I have to restart but I don't do it because I don't to, I hate everytime I have to do it.

I think it would be a good idea to do so! It's not a big deal. It's for your system's protection, after all. I use that free version on a lot of systems and restarts are rarely required. How often does it happen to you? Try restarting now and you'll probably won't have to do so again for some time.

twilyth · Apr 5, 2015

One of my servers has antivirus but the other 2 don't. As long as you're not using the machine for anything else, I think you're fine. But those servers are running Windows server so they probably have a higher level of protection built in anyway.

It can't hurt to add another layer of protection but I think most threats don't come from remote hacks but by downloading malware from infected sites or emails.

FireFox · Apr 5, 2015

Heaven7 said:
How often does it happen to you

Since I have installed just one.

4x4n · Apr 5, 2015

Getting the 4790k dialed in. Pulling 150 watts at 4.5, only 15 more than the 4670k at same clock. Going to try and see if I can go lower with vcore.

krusha03 · Apr 5, 2015

4x4n said:
Getting the 4790k dialed in. Pulling 150 watts at 4.5, only 15 more than the 4670k at same clock. Going to try and see if I can go lower with vcore.

Hey @4x4n once you have the machine up and running post your numbers in this thread. We have a comparison going

4x4n · Apr 6, 2015

Well, 1.21 just crashed so looks like 1.22 is the lowest I can go and stay at 4.5.

I will post up in that thread, interested in that myself. There is a lot more in this chip but I like where it is right now. Nice temps and I just have Ven X with a Noiseblocker fan for cooling.

[Ion] · Apr 6, 2015

Knoxx29 said:
I have silly silly very silly question
Does a Crunching Machine needs an Antivirus?
Cheers.

Probably a good idea, but I don't. Linux in particular there's no reason to install AV software; Windows its debatable. But I don't have AV on my laptop anyways (it's old and slow) and I figure that if the laptop can do without, so can the systems that have only BOINC and are never touched.

Arjai · Apr 6, 2015

Also, a reboot does not affect your Work Units. They remain and will restart, no problems. So, go ahead and reboot. It will help, in the end, to keep you virus free...Supposedly....at the very least, better protected! :toast:

manofthem · Apr 6, 2015

I only run an AV (avg free) on my wife's pc because there have been several instances of trouble in the psst :laugh:

actually she hasn't been as bad after a few debacles, some of which came from her idiot little brother that tried to DL crap and then try to deny it. (oh yeah, I'm stupid

) and I'm not convinced that avg free is any good since reading an article on AVs that showed it to be "eh"

And ironically enough, my main rig was lastly infected with something. With what, not sure since all scans picked up nothing, so I've no idea what hit me really. Still, I just run whatever Windows defender comes with it and that's that.

mstenholm · Apr 6, 2015

Arjai said:
Also, a reboot does not affect your Work Units. They remain and will restart, no problems. So, go ahead and reboot. It will help, in the end, to keep you virus free...Supposedly....at the very least, better protected!

Well that is not entirely true. The CEP units have very long time between check points. You could lose 2-3 hours one these. The rest is only a matter of minutes.

Peter1986C · Apr 6, 2015

Update tuesday is only once a month.

manofthem · Apr 6, 2015

I want to get a cheap WiFi adapter for one of my pcs, and I found one of these for $10 for sale on [H]. Any feedback on it? Newegg reviews seem decent enough, and it's pretty much a dedicated Cruncher, rarely gets any other use.

[Ion] · Apr 7, 2015

manofthem said:
I want to get a cheap WiFi adapter for one of my pcs, and I found one of these for $10 for sale on [H]. Any feedback on it? Newegg reviews seem decent enough, and it's pretty much a dedicated Cruncher, rarely gets any other use.

Honestly, you can probably just go with whatever's cheap. I'm using a motley collection of adapters--ranging from B to N, and from USB sticks like that to PCI to internal USB adapters looted from old desktops. None are fabulous, but all work fine.

For what it's worth, I have a TP-Link one just like that (except without the external antenna) on the SR-2 system. The range isn't great, but the antenna ought to help with that.

manofthem · Apr 7, 2015

[Ion] said:
Honestly, you can probably just go with whatever's cheap. I'm using a motley collection of adapters--ranging from B to N, and from USB sticks like that to PCI to internal USB adapters looted from old desktops. None are fabulous, but all work fine.

For what it's worth, I have a TP-Link one just like that (except without the external antenna) on the SR-2 system. The range isn't great, but the antenna ought to help with that.

It should work well for me then. The range I need is only about 6 feet (direct) and no walls between. Just hate the idea of constant drop of connection. I think I'll go for it

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