Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

[RejZoR]

Nah it's the same system reserved partition that W7 has, only bigger.

The recovery folder for reverting back to W8/W7 is on the root of your OS partition, hidden.

Then why create another recovery partitions if there is already one for the same task?

 

[HTC]

Did you close it/end the process?

iirc the program can't be running when you uninstall it.

No difference: i get the same error regardless of whether or not the process is running

 

[Pill Monster]

Then why create another recovery partitions if there is already one for the same task?

It's not a recovery partition, it's the boot partition, but can hold recovery tools . The way it's used and the size depends how the OS is installed and disk type.

On legacy MBR disks a separate partition isn't required, hence the 100mb in W7 could usually be merged with the OS partition,.

But if the OS is installed in UEFI mode on a GPT it must be separated, because that partition is the "FI" part of UEFI. Aka the interface between the OS and the motherboard/hardware..

The disk is read during post to determine the format. If UEFI the bios passes over control to the EFI system partition, then the OS is booted. .

Also why TPM and bitlocker are such a PITA on UEFI installs. Particularly TPM.

 

[Static~Charge]

Nah it's the same system reserved partition that W7 has, only bigger.

No, it isn't the same partition as in Windows 7. Under Windows 10, my test machine still has a 100MB System Reserved partition, in addition to the 449MB unlabeled partition. System Reserved holds the boot and repair utilities. The bigger, unlabeled partition is WinRE (Windows Recovery Environment):

What's new with WinRE for Windows 10?

By default, if you install Windows using media created from Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer (ICD), you'll get a dedicated WinRE tools partition on both UEFI and BIOS-based devices, located immediately after the Windows partition. This allows Windows to replace and resize the partition as needed.

WinRE includes these tools:​

• Automatic repair and other troubleshooting tools.
• Push-button reset (Windows 10 for desktop editions, Windows 8.1, and Windows 8 only). This tool enables your users to repair their own PCs quickly while preserving their data and important customizations, without having to back up data in advance.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/Dn938364(v=VS.85).aspx​

 

[Pill Monster]

No, it isn't the same partition as in Windows 7. Under Windows 10, my test machine still has a 100MB System Reserved partition, in addition to the 449MB unlabeled partition. System Reserved holds the boot and repair utilities. The bigger, unlabeled partition is WinRE (Windows Recovery Environment):

What's new with WinRE for Windows 10?

By default, if you install Windows using media created from Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer (ICD), you'll get a dedicated WinRE tools partition on both UEFI and BIOS-based devices, located immediately after the Windows partition. This allows Windows to replace and resize the partition as needed.

WinRE includes these tools:​

• Automatic repair and other troubleshooting tools.
• Push-button reset (Windows 10 for desktop editions, Windows 8.1, and Windows 8 only). This tool enables your users to repair their own PCs quickly while preserving their data and important customizations, without having to back up data in advance.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/Dn938364(v=VS.85).aspx​

You must have an OEM version then because separate Recovery partitions are only found on preinstalled systems.. I thought he was talking about the EFI partition which is 500mb.

Otherwise the recovery image is on the OS partition, in a hidden folder called recovery.

How did you do the install?

 

[squeezehat]

How did you do the install?

He probably did a clean install. Windows creates this layout by default.

 

[Pill Monster]

He probably did a clean install. Windows creates this layout by default.

Can u explain then why I have never seen a Recovery Partition on any build I've ever tested since 2014? Is it maybe because it's only present on OEM versions as I said?

Maybe this screenshot from Microsoft will help.

Btw, welcome to my ignore list.

Mate really, don't you have anything better to do but follow me around the internet. Jeez...

 

[squeezehat]

As stated, this is the WinRE partition, and has nothing to do with the recovery partition that comes with oem computers. Try clean installing on a gpt drive... you'll notice it.

 

[Pill Monster]

As stated, this is the WinRE partition, and has nothing to do with the recovery partition that comes with oem computers. Try clean installing on a gpt drive... you'll notice it.

Winre image is keep in a hidden folder on the OS drive. There is no separate "win.re partition." As always you're talking out your ass Gammelhat.


Can u please stop stalking me, it's getting to the creepy stage.

 

[Pill Monster]

Gammellhat, it seems I may have to man up and eat humble pie.

The winre partition isn't usually created on W10 retail, recovery is loaded into the system partition, but a separate partition can be created if some conditions are met on GPT disks in UEFI mode.

One is if a system partition doesn't exist, another is if the disk is quick formatted during install when an old partition already exists on the drive. Another is if there is a system partition but it's too small for the wim.


So prob doing a clean install on a MBR without formatting is the best way. Or making sure no other system partitions are on a GPT disk. But if it's not a clean install the win re can be transferred over from upgrades.


So that was def my bad. You're still on my ignore list though

 

[tttony]

I will wait, like one year or so

I really dont like the touch design of the W10

 

[95Viper]

Not working for me

Try running the Windows update Troubleshooter, to see if it will fix the problem.

 

[HTC]

Try running the Windows update Troubleshooter, to see if it will fix the problem.

Still can't uninstall the damn update but it seems this is preventing it from popping up: will know for sure next time i restart my system (can't right now).

 

[micropage7]

I will wait, like one year or so

I really dont like the touch design of the W10

so do i
thats why i hate win 8, MS should put alternative interface for touch and for standard desktop

now, win 10 MS i think do the same again like win 8, although this OS has a potential, i dont like MS like push their customer to follow their rules like with paying for some features, that updates

i may give it some months before thinking of it as my new OS

for now im pretty happy with 7

 

[pigulici]

So , even if you give off to all options for privacy, Win 10 will send all about you, even what movie you have in PC:

http://arstechnica.com/information-...ndows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

 

[micropage7]

So , even if you give off to all options for privacy, Win 10 will send all about you, even what movie you have in PC:

http://arstechnica.com/information-...ndows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

wow, MS just opening for "creative man" to silence it IFYKWIM

 

[pigulici]

another one : "Windows 10 will sink "pirated" software or hardware"

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/38470-windows-10-sniffs-for-piracy

 

[micropage7]

another one : "Windows 10 will sink "pirated" software or hardware"

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/38470-windows-10-sniffs-for-piracy

i dont think so, anyone who use pirated OS just wanna use new OS, just OS and look at another apps that need activated by internet connection, many cracker success activate it offline and only time will tell how effective MS's steps

 

[pigulici]

I see too much to not belive, what I find a bad thing, it is that they(M$, gov, NSA, CIA...) don't cover up anymore this abuse, it even write in plain, or they don't care about our power as clients/people or the truth it so wrong and bad under the hood, that all we see now look like a joke for them, in any case we lost this round...

 

[Static~Charge]

You must have an OEM version then because separate Recovery partitions are only found on preinstalled systems.. I thought he was talking about the EFI partition which is 500mb.

Otherwise the recovery image is on the OS partition, in a hidden folder called recovery.

How did you do the install?

My test machine was running Windows 7 Pro x64, retail version. I downloaded Windows 10 Pro using Microsoft's Media Creation Tool, burned it to disc, and then upgraded from there. The installer shrunk my C: partition to make room for the WinRE partition. There are now 3 partitions on the 160GB hard drive:

100MB -- System Reserved
148.47GB -- C:
449MB -- WinRE​

In Windows 7, there were only 2 partitions: System Reserved and C:. Also, the C: partition is MBR, and the boot configuration is Legacy, not UEFI.

 

[rtwjunkie]

All I know is MS is using high-pressure tactics, and I feel sorry for people not as savvy as a lot of tech-forum members. I've gotten two popups in two days, with Microsoft telling me "Microsoft recommends Windows 10", and below it "You only have a limited time to upgrade." Um, technically, yes....if you can call 320-something days left "limited."

 

[HTC]

Still can't uninstall the damn update but it seems this is preventing it from popping up: will know for sure next time i restart my system (can't right now).

It doesn't come up in updates anymore BUT in systray, the program always nags me to upgrade ...

Still, another update just became available and, when i selected it and hit download, it states "downloading windows 10". @ least it's just what it says and not what it does: downloaded the 3.3 MB update only.

 

[95Viper]

It doesn't come up in updates anymore BUT in systray, the program always nags me to upgrade ...

Still, another update just became available and, when i selected it and hit download, it states "downloading windows 10". @ least it's just what it says and not what it does: downloaded the 3.3 MB update only.

Show your hidden files and folder in the file and folder options...
On your c: drive do you have ~WS and/or a ~BT folders?

 

[HTC]

Show your hidden files and folder in the file and folder options...
On your c: drive do you have ~WS and/or a ~BT folders?

Tried uninstalling the damned update (the GWX one) with "show hidden files and folders" but it fails to uninstall ... again ... still ...

I have a "$windows.~BT" folder in C drive: what am i supposed to do with that folder? Delete it?

 

[95Viper]

Tried uninstalling the damned update (the GWX one) with "show hidden files and folders" but it fails to uninstall ... again ... still ...

I have a "$windows.~BT" folder in C drive: what am i supposed to do with that folder? Delete it?

Yes, you can delete it, if you are not upgrading to 10... however, it may come back, if you can't stop the windows 10 upgrade kb update .
That folder contains the upgrade files for Windows 10.

I found this info at MakeUseOf, "How To Get Rid of Windows 10..." article:

Spoiler

Remove a Windows Update, Kill the Upgrade Notification
The notification came via a Windows Update, so why not remove the update?

Uninstalling a Windows Update is surprisingly easy, as long as you know its name. This update is called KB3035583 so we can use the command line to delete it with a single command. Begin by opening the Command Prompt with Administrator privileges (right-click the Command Prompt icon and select Run as administrator) and enter

WUSA /UNINSTALL /KB:3035583

Follow the on-screen prompts, and when complete type exit to close Command Prompt.

Use “I Don’t Want Windows 10″
Free for users of Windows 7 and Windows 8.x, I Don’t Want Windows 10 removes notifications of the coming upgrade. It doesn’t prevent you from installing the upgrade.

It works by automatically removing the KB3035583 update from Microsoft, so is in effect a “clean” version of the previous fix. After downloading the I_Dont_Want_Windows_10.zip file, unzip the contents and run I Don’t Want Windows 10.exe. The utility will warn you of a few things (such as it isn’t a Microsoft patch, and that you use it at your own risk) and you’ll need to click I Agree to continue.

With the patch applied, restart Windows to enjoy life without the upgrade notification for Windows 10.