Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

[HTC]

Yes, you can delete it, if you are not upgrading to 10... however, it may come back, if you can't stop the windows 10 upgrade kb update .
That folder contains the upgrade files for Windows 10.

I found this info at MakeUseOf, "How To Get Rid of Windows 10..." article:

I can't uninstall the damned update: only hide the notifications. Tried deleting the GWX folder and it deletes all but 9 files, including gwx.exe ...

I kill the process with task manager and the program stops running but, several hours later, it's in the background again, confirmed by task manager ...

Is there an antivirus for this GWX thing? This behaves much like a virus IMO!!!!

 

[P4-630]

Just uninstalled the GWX notification on our windows 8.1 computers, not upgrading to windows 10

 

[WhiteNoise]

Been using Windows 10 since they released the reservations and I'll not go back to 8.1 ever and I loved 8.1.

 

[vectoravtech]

I will use windows 7 home premium I installed until windows comes bundled with a sx cyborg 0_o then I will upgrade. I need to see my start programs, i'm sorry.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Uh, I think Windows 10 is updating AMD CCC without my consent and without warning...

...monitors going off and the like...
...lots of HDD thrashing...

Edit: 15.20.1062.1004-150803a-184226E

 

[Ahhzz]

Uh, I think Windows 10 is updating AMD CCC without my consent and without warning...

...monitors going off and the like...
...lots of HDD thrashing...

Edit: 15.20.1062.1004-150803a-184226E

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that's a known problem.... several comments in the Win10 tips on how to get it to stop that after it breaks your machine.






Oh, and welcome to Windows 10.

 

[Aquinus]

Uh, I think Windows 10 is updating AMD CCC without my consent and without warning...

...monitors going off and the like...
...lots of HDD thrashing...

Edit: 15.20.1062.1004-150803a-184226E

Windows 10 completely screwed up Catalyst for me, while it was stable, it was under-performing. It was running a new CCC with an old driver and couldn't do anything to fix it short of using a driver cleaner and installing the latest 15.7.1 drivers again. It since has worked without issue for me.

Also, your edit (package version,) still looks like it might be older than what I have installed.

15.20.1062.1004-150803a1-187674C

 

[rtwjunkie]

I will use windows 7 home premium I installed until windows comes bundled with a sx cyborg 0_o then I will upgrade. I need to see my start programs, i'm sorry.

I'm pretty sure Stardock, which did such a successful Start 8, has also made a Start 10. Something to look into if you want your start menu a certain way.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

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that's a known problem.... several comments in the Win10 tips on how to get it to stop that after it breaks your machine.

It works fine, I just didn't expect my monitors to black out and do all those update shenanigans while I'm using it and without warning.

Also, your edit (package version,) still looks like it might be older than what I have installed.

15.20.1062.1004-150803a1-187674C

Pretty sure only the first four parts matter (which match). So it didn't upgrade? It just uninstalled and reinstalled the same thing? That's an exercise in futility.

That said, I think AMD is to blame for it more so than Microsoft. Microsoft pushes out whatever AMD gives to them.

 

[Ahhzz]

It works fine, I just didn't expect my monitors to black out and do all those update shenanigans while I'm using it and without warning.



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Maybe it's just what I expect from a computer "working fine", but that's not my definition of "works fine". "Works fine" to me, means my monitors don't go black, and self-update while I'm using them. Now, my Windows 7 Ult machine "Works fine" under my definition, leaving it on for weeks at a time, and under your definition, I'd be charging an hourly rate for that machine "working fine".

 

[AsRock]

Yeah, but don't forget to check Disk Management. Say hello to second hidden "recovery" partition... Anyone brave enough to remove it and see if system still boots and functions fine?

Did that today with a AMD APU laptop went perfectly fine, partition was still usable, went from win7 to win10 back to win7 and reinstalled after that.

If you mean the recovery in win10 done that too backs up desktop items and user folder so if you have teamspeak or such stuff you want to keep you better back up whats in the roaming folder as nothing gets saved from the appdata folder.

Anyways going back to Win7 sick to death with the long ass pause while cold booting, Not had that issue with win7 going back to that.

One thing bothers me though due to being 23 days in now on that 30 days and say i revert back right now, would that mean i have 7 days to decide if i try win10 again or will it reset .

Other reason why i am going back is that there is no parental controls unless you sign in, like wtf they thinking asking you to give minors email addresses and shit.

The other i still think Windows firewall sucks balls compared to what i normally use.

 

[theonedub]

I've been noticing some weird oddities- WiFi signal dropping out completely, inability to open anything in the notification panel unless I click the start menu first, random lag when typing in Chrome, FF, and even Windows Explorer windows, forced reboots for updates even if I've scheduled them for later, slow boot, and the list goes on.

Think I might be better served moving back down to 8.1

 

[xkm1948]

Starting off was great with Windows 10. My old win7 installation was full of bloatware so the upgrade did not work. So I did a clean install of 7, upgraded it to 10 using DVD and then did a clean install of 10. It was nice and smooth for about 3 days and then all hell broke loose. Constant BSOD, especially during boot up. Turns out the drivers I downloaded from ASUS website was not very good. So I did another wipe and start a fresh 10. This time I paid extra attention to what driver I install and so far I have been crashing free. Another thing is the sneaky "fast startup" option. It sort of puts your computer into a hybrid hibernation mode. Although it may be good for some people, it was crashing my PC almost every single boot. Disabled that along with hybrid sleep and now I am finally BSOD free!

I am totally regretting my decision of upgrading to 10. Too many bugs, too many driver issues. And in terms of performance it is not that great after all. The metro gui still looks like shit to me.

 

[RejZoR]

Also, the reverting back to Windows 8.1 doesn't revert it to a state that you had before. It just reverts the OS and deletes ALL the changes you have made prior upgrade point. It's not really a backup of old state, it just reverts the OS. Be aware of that!

 

[NC37]

Was going to upgrade right away at least on one machine but W10 horror stories are outweighing the desire to do it. Between drivers destroying laptop screens to privacy issues up the wazoo...frankly I might just hold off. DX12 was the main feature I would have updated for but if there is no benefit without games having to be coded for it, then I don't need to update. Wasn't expecting massive improvements but was hoping on some minor increases. Specially after all the buzz about AMD hardware getting buffs in the CPU area. But so far, no one has done any benches of AMD CPUs in 10 to test it.

 

[Aquinus]

Was going to upgrade right away at least on one machine but W10 horror stories are outweighing the desire to do it. Between drivers destroying laptop screens to privacy issues up the wazoo...frankly I might just hold off. DX12 was the main feature I would have updated for but if there is no benefit without games having to be coded for it, then I don't need to update. Wasn't expecting massive improvements but was hoping on some minor increases. Specially after all the buzz about AMD hardware getting buffs in the CPU area. But so far, no one has done any benches of AMD CPUs in 10 to test it.

I think a lot of issues are stemming out of how Windows upgrades your machine. I have to say, it didn't do a good job upgrading my display drivers and there are a number of applications that didn't come over in the upgrade but, after cleaning out display drivers, everything worked fine. I personally was expecting the upgrade to go a lot worse so I was expecting to do a clean install right after doing it. That wasn't really the case, at least for me. Assuming people with laptops have switchable graphics, it's possible the upgrade is borking that up. My wife wants to upgrade her laptop that has a HD 4000 and a M265X in it, so maybe I'll take a gamble with her laptop and find out... after backing it up.

Windows 10 itself really isn't bad once it's working. I've found it to be a worth successor to 7 when the upgrade isn't busy borking up your machine.

 

[rtwjunkie]

So, @AsRock i saw you and several people have complained about Windows firewall in W10, and it not being as good as what you had. What's the deal? Does W10 not allow 3rd party firewalls?

 

[Aquinus]

My question would be, why isn't the router doing the task of being a firewall? The only reason to have a firewall on a client behind a NAT is to restrict outgoing traffic so if a virus or something is downloaded, it would limit its ability to access the network. Beyond that, it's really not doing a whole lot IMHO unless the Windows machine is directly exposed to the internet with an IP address on the internet and not behind a NAT. In other words, if you use wifi or have a router, there is a good bet your Windows firewall isn't doing a whole lot, even when it's on. Just wanted to throw that out there.

 

[AsRock]

So, @AsRock i saw you and several people have complained about Windows firewall in W10, and it not being as good as what you had. What's the deal? Does W10 not allow 3rd party firewalls?

At this time the one i use they have not done one for Windows 10 ( i just thought there would be due to the openness of win10 before release ), playing the waiting game. I would not think MS would have the balls to actually stop others making a firewall for the OS.

I like more control over what a program can do once it's allowed to connect online. And with the one i am using i have control over website's too with cookies \ java active x and so on.

 

[RejZoR]

Oh my god Windows 10 is dumb as a brick. I've specifically instructed (blocked) Win10 no to update graphic drivers because anything after Catalyst 14.12 Omega makes my E-450 APU run like crap. And guess what Windows Update installed yesterday. Yup, it auto installed god damn Catalyst 15.7 WHQL.

This pile of crap is even worse than Windows Millennium. It just is. Windows 8.1 seems like absolute perfection compared to this junk. Only reason to use Windows 10 is DX12 and even that just became a lot less interesting after seeing how self minded Win10 OS is and how much crap and problems I have with it because some prick decided to force driver updates without any chance of deselecting problematic drivers. F**king hell.

Whoever at Microsoft though that forcing driver updates on users is a smart idea should be shot on sight. It's the dumbest thing I've seen in my entire history of working with PC's. It just is.

 

[Aquinus]

Oh my god Windows 10 is dumb as a brick. I've specifically instructed (blocked) Win10 no to update graphic drivers because anything after Catalyst 14.12 Omega makes my E-450 APU run like crap. And guess what Windows Update installed yesterday. Yup, it auto installed god damn Catalyst 15.7 WHQL.

This pile of crap is even worse than Windows Millennium. It just is. Windows 8.1 seems like absolute perfection compared to this junk. Only reason to use Windows 10 is DX12 and even that just became a lot less interesting after seeing how self minded Win10 OS is and how much crap and problems I have with it because some prick decided to force driver updates without any chance of deselecting problematic drivers. F**king hell.

Whoever at Microsoft though that forcing driver updates on users is a smart idea should be shot on sight. It's the dumbest thing I've seen in my entire history of working with PC's. It just is.

You have a thread ranting about this. Downloading drivers can be disabled, and welcome to upgrading. Hate to say it @RejZoR , you made this point some time ago and I can't say I want to hear a repeat of your whining from that thread. We certainly know what your issues with Win 10 are, that's no secret to TPU.

 

[RejZoR]

I HAVE DISABLED THE DRIVER UPDATING and this dumb OS updated the drivers anyway.

 

[Aquinus]

I HAVE DISABLED THE DRIVER UPDATING and this dumb OS updated the drivers anyway.

Disabled driver updating or disabled driver updates for that device? I think you did it the wrong way.
Either way, your caps and language are telling me that you need to calm down.

 

[RejZoR]

Because you don't understand. And yes, disabled driver updating as whole. And it just nonchalantly disobeyed it.

 

[AsRock]

I did notice some thing kinda interesting, when i reinstalled Win7 for how ever many time's as it was at the point were you had to phone i did not have too it just activated without any bother at all.

Did not seem that it wanted to get updates until i did activate.

Some thing else i noticed my system is much faster now than it was with Win10 specially startup as i always got this delay were it seemed like it had a hard question and just sat their with the circles spinning or at the desktop like if it was playing some silly game what to load first.

So after setting up a GPT partition and telling the motherboard i have a compatible UEFI video card it was still slower lol, so screw it for now i will wait until next year to try it again and i know what the issue's are now so if i do only have 5 days left to test Win10 again i should know in a day easy .

No real DX10 games yet so no real need anyways, don't want to be a beta tester which is clearly what this is.