AMD Radeon R9 Nano Core Configuration Detailed

[Sony Xperia S]

what would be the point doesn't oc for shit any way.

When will you understand that the card itself will be damn fast even without overclocking and with overlock you will achieve nothing but nonsense?

 

[uuuaaaaaa]

what would be the point doesn't oc for shit any way.

I guess that would mean lower operating voltage at the same clock speed, lower power consumption and lower temperatures, so it could be close to Fury X's performance at such form factor. Also it may have some room to oc a little bit...

 

[commando55555]

When will you understand that the card itself will be damn fast even without overclocking and with overlock you will achieve nothing but nonsense?

When will you understand that when buying a card oc is consideration. The fact it doesn't is nonsense the 980 ti is pretty dam fast but that 30% oc is pretty nice.

 

[Sony Xperia S]

When will you understand that when buying a card oc is consideration.

No, it's just a wishful thinking from your side and no one guarantees you anything. Actually the opposite - you can void your warranty by changing the factory defauults.

The fact it doesn't is nonsense the 980 ti is pretty dam fast but that 30% oc is pretty nice.

Yeah, sure those magic 30%. I guess it woun't throttle even a tiny bit.

 

[Lionheart]

"Up to 1000MHz" = you'll see 1000MHz for a couple of milliseconds at best. Most of the time it will run at a far lower core clock.

Overclocking on this card is going to be nonexistent because it will probably catch fire, but that's okay because Fury/Fiji overclocks like s**t anyway, so why would you even bother.

Jesus christ every damn AMD article you're always negative, give it a rest.

 

[commando55555]

No, it's just a wishful thinking from your side and no one guarantees you anything. Actually the opposite - you can void your warranty by changing the factory defauults.


Yeah, sure those magic 30%. I guess it woun't throttle even a tiny bit.

I know not all chips will oc the same. But for example 980ti are good oc but it's going to very trial and error. The bottom line is some people like to oc for these people this card is a turd.

 

[Assimilator]

Jesus christ every damn AMD article you're always negative, give it a rest.

I'll stop being negative towards AMD, when AMD marketing stops lying to their customers and delivers the products they promise.

 

[RejZoR]

It's probably going to be 800Mhz and 1000MHz max boost until it reaches the thermal limit. I can't see it running at 1GHz with this tiny cooler and same core configuration as Fury X. It just makes no sense even compared to vanilla Fury with its massive coolers.

 

[Xzibit]

VideoCardz.com

 

[cokker]

I'll stop being negative towards AMD, when AMD marketing stops lying to their customers and delivers the products they promise.

"GTX 970"

 

[5DVX0130]

What's that I hear!?

Oh it's just the hype train making its rounds.


I do hope it’s a good card, for all our sakes, but till the benchmarks hit it’s just a pretty face.

But I do wonder what the temps/noise will be like. Seeing as the non X Fury got to 70C and it has a massive cooler.

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

So....

What AMD has delivered is a very small card, that should reasonably approximate a much larger card sans overclocking. Honestly though, did anyone expect a card this small to somehow come in with insane overclocking? If they did, they were asking for something pretty crazy.

The card is interesting as a thought experiment. Move it to14nm, and HBM2 at 8 GB, and you'll have something truly amazing for the HTPC gaming crowd. As it stands now, meh. It'll be an expensive niche card that is great for someone needing a small form factor. Regular users won't allow the price premium, so it won't be something for the mainstream. I can see this card being amazing at 390 pricing, but it's not likely to be that reasonable.



As far as the AMD/NVIDIA debate, both companies are full of crap. AMD did do a rather hatchet job selling its current generation of GPU, but if you forgot the 970 debacle you're pure fanboy. Take everything with a grain of salt until it has been bench marked.

 

[SonicZap]

Hawaii suddenly becomes very efficient with lower clock speeds - some users have reported their R9 290X power consumption being lowered by half with an underclock to 750 MHz or so. It's likely the same case here, dropping clock speeds and voltage makes Fiji a lot more efficient than the implementation in Fury X.

I'm not in the market for buying Nano, but I'm interested to see how efficient it is. It might even be more efficient than Maxwell considering that Fury (non-X) is already very close to Maxwell in power efficiency.

 

[the54thvoid]

The only niche competition it has, the itx 970's came out in late 2014. It's easily the fastest itx card.
As for clocks, that's how the professional cards hit power limits, low clocks.
Given the stock Fiji chip being used, I guess some firmware is involved, unless there is PCB hardware for power limiting. If its hardware, no over clocking but if its firmware, it'll be flash happy. But risky....

 

[64K]

Price and performance need to be seen but maybe there won't be scarcity. Fury have started showing up where I buy my hardware but still no Fury X unless you want to be gouged at Amazon. I don't know why anyone would pay $1,000 for a Fury X.

If the Nano performs close to a 980 then efficiency is definitely good.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

So how does it get down to 175W typical board power, from the 275W of the R9 Fury X? It's theorized that AMD could be using an aggressive power/temperature based clock-speed throttle.

That's concerning.

 

[Aquinus]

There is an "11" footnote marker on the "Compute Units" section of the specs. I would really like to know that footnote actually says. Maybe the CUs are gimped in some way to keep the GPU within TDP and VRM limits? How interesting would it be if CUs disabled themselves if power draw or heat become too big of a problem? CU level power-gating in addition to clock scaling. It could be a blueprint for power saving features going forward on AMD GPUs.

 

[Sony Xperia S]

Hawaii suddenly becomes very efficient with lower clock speeds - some users have reported their R9 290X power consumption being lowered by half with an underclock to 750 MHz or so. It's likely the same case here, dropping clock speeds and voltage makes Fiji a lot more efficient than the implementation in Fury X.

This means that Fiji and Hawaii offer the best or optimal characteristics performance to power ratio in a different part of the curve compared to the ones they are being sold with.

It means that overclocking for more performance scales rather poorly.

 

[newtekie1]

This thing is going to run so hot, and throttle constantly. Though I'm guessing it will remain at a high enough speed just long enough to get through the benchmarks used in most reviews, so the reviews show way higher performance than you actually get, which is typical for AMD.

 

[uuuaaaaaa]

This thing is going to run so hot, and throttle constantly. Though I'm guessing it will remain at a high enough speed just long enough to get through the benchmarks used in most reviews, so the reviews show way higher performance than you actually get, which is typical for AMD.

Afaik this only happened with the reference models based on Hawaii...

 

[newtekie1]

Afaik this only happened with the reference models based on Hawaii...

I haven't tried a whole lot of the aftermarket cards, but my Sapphire Tri-X's throttled when I had them in crossfire(well the top card throttled).

 

[uuuaaaaaa]

I haven't tried a whole lot of the aftermarket cards, but my Sapphire Tri-X's throttled when I had them in crossfire(well the top card throttled).

Maybe it needed more room to breathe. Which cards did you have?

 

[GhostRyder]

I'll stop being negative towards AMD, when AMD marketing stops lying to their customers and delivers the products they promise.

This coming from the guy who owns a GTX 970...

"GTX 970"

Yes this sums up my thoughts nicely^

There is an "11" footnote marker on the "Compute Units" section of the specs. I would really like to know that footnote actually says. Maybe the CUs are gimped in some way to keep the GPU within TDP and VRM limits? How interesting would it be if CUs disabled themselves if power draw or heat become too big of a problem? CU level power-gating in addition to clock scaling. It could be a blueprint for power saving features going forward on AMD GPUs.

It will be interesting to see how this is handled because there are so many questions left open because of this announcement. I am curious how well this cooler handles things honestly even with that TDP and if it really is going to throttle. Its a great mystery that I only think will be resolved once we see them all around .

 

[john_]

I'll stop being negative towards AMD, when AMD marketing stops lying to their customers and delivers the products they promise.

So you support Nvidia because it says the truth?
I haven't check if TPU have a subforum with funny stories. Your can quote me and post your answer there.

 

[64K]

This coming from the guy who owns a GTX 970...

I had a GTX 970 before and it was a very nice card. I was an early adopter and got the card before the truth came out. I did think it strange that I got it for $360 when the 980 was $550 with only a little better performance. The previous generation was $400 for the 670 and $500 for the 680. I expected similar pricing.

But yeah, Nvidia definitely told some lies and AMD lies sometimes and Publishers lie sometimes. It's a bit of a shady hobby we're in.