AMD Radeon R9 Nano Review by TPU...Not

[Tatty_Two]

I always find it amusing when some very ill informed and often ignorant members make rash claims like this is an anti AMD site or NVidia biased...... I can only assume that they are not aware that the owner of this site for many many years has been writing/coding and producing overclocking and tweaking software for AMD only cards, both independently for the wider communities and also in direct support for the very biggest AMD Graphic Card players with their overclocking software and as far as I am aware still does, the fact that he may not climb upon his soapbox and shout to the world about it is a lesson that one or two of us here might learn...... but I doubt that sadly.

If they really dislike it so much here they are welcome to close the door on their way out and hand in their keys at the gate.

 

[Pill Monster]

What were the content of the posts from this AMD reps multiple accounts?

Right now we have the AMDRTP cult which seems to plague the internet they seem like the biggest fanclub that exists. Members that monitor any forum and news articles, and is quick to go berzerk against any negative post toward AMD products. I bet AMD give cheap cards to these guys every now and then just to get their "protection".

AMD_Roy is the biggest joke around with his constant low blow attacks against Nvidia and reposting of any tweet from a random guy saying "Love my R7 360X, AMDRTP 4 life". That is one of the higher ups in the system and he is a clown.

What do mean content? Starting promo threads then bumping them with sock puppets. stuff like that. Not Roy either..


Idk if it still goes on now but it was happening frequently, it got to the point admins asked him to tone it down...was still tolerated though. The thing was it was so obvious as to be funny...lol

 

[erocker]

Instead of blaming AMD, tell us please why or how much you receive from nvidia to keep their image up and AMD's down?

I have to be honest... That's such a stretch a really did laugh a little. AMD seems to be doing a fine job on their own with their "image". For me personally as a shareholder AMD has done nothing but disappoint. It's sad for several reasons and I can only hope they turn things around.

 

[m0nt3]

Seems to me that this should have been expected. I would venture a guess that the nano is a cherry picked Fury X that can operate at perhaps slightly lower voltage to fit within the power envelope. On top of the fact that the Fury cards are in short supply and then cherry picking from an already low supply (there aren't many AIB's with Fury cards, I think only Asus and Sapphire have Fury vanilla cards). It's a completely new design with HBM and the interposer, it is innovation that will benefit APUs as much as discrete GPUs. Intel also has a low supply of Skylake CPU's, probably because of the new manufacturing process. I am not an electrical engineer by any stretch of the imagination, but 3D stacked memory chip with a 4096bit bus on an interposer seems like a lofty task and an expensive one, therefore it comes with a price.

Why and by what standards AMD is choosing its reviewers, is speculation at this point. Perhaps give AMD the opportunity to comment? I am sure the decisions are not made lightly.

Calling for the removal of Dr. Lisa Su also seems absurd, she hasn't even been CEO for 1 year (1 year this October). Unreasonable expectations that she could do a complete turn around of a company in 11 months when development cycles can take in excess of 5 years. My 2 cents anyway.

 

[Crap Daddy]

AMD are putting in some fine efforts to become irrelevant. They will be missed.

 

[Pill Monster]

Impartial isn't posting AMD-only marketing, like the mantle review Hilbert did. AMD's only using marketing-friendly companies for reviews it seems. We have a larger reach than GuRu3D (according to the public info available by Alexa), so this definitely isn't about AMD getting the widest exposure for their products, it's about getting the reviews they want. Tech Report not getting one is not surprising, since the whole frame pacing stuff, and HardOCP not getting one is weird, since I think HardOCP has always been very AMD-friendly.
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Idk about that, Guru3D is ranked around 7000 on Alexa. I don't really have a problem with Hilbert, though he is is a bit arrogant imho. Mainly just the stuff that's allowed to go on on there.

Shame as there are a lot of very nice members on the site.....if it was irl I'd call them my friends.

 

[natr0n]

Oh well indeed.

Many users here have shitloads of money to blow. When a nano is bought they will post benches regardless.

So why worry...

 

[cadaveca]

Idk about that, Guru3D is ranked around 7000 on Alexa. I don't really have a problem with Hilbert, though he is is a bit arrogant imho. Mainly just the stuff that's allowed to go on on there.

Shame as there are a lot of very nice members on the site.....if it was irl I'd call them my friends.

Yeah, we're at about 5000. Just a bit higher. Guru3d and us have swapped positions many times, with us being the higher in the rankings more often than not.

 

[HumanSmoke]

What were the content of the posts from this AMD reps multiple accounts?
Right now we have the AMDRTP cult which seems to plague the internet they seem like the biggest fanclub that exists. Members that monitor any forum and news articles, and is quick to go berzerk against any negative post toward AMD products. I bet AMD give cheap cards to these guys every now and then just to get their "protection".

They do get handouts, but I suspect some of these people are just overburdened with spare time. Listening to them tends to scream NEEDY (and creepy in some cases - check out the psychotic stare!)

AMD_Roy is the biggest joke around with his constant low blow attacks against Nvidia and reposting of any tweet from a random guy saying "Love my R7 360X, AMDRTP 4 life". That is one of the higher ups in the system and he is a clown.

He was just as much a clown when he worked for Nvidia. Remember his cringe-worthy " No one cares about ATI and AMD" rant? At least RTP do it out of some sense of community (I assume) - Roy just spouts whatever OTT garbage he thinks will get him invited to the company picnic.

 

[dorsetknob]

They can't even produce few tens to low hundreds of cards for the press? Well that is beyond ridiculous. That's not even laughable, that's pure WTF. Is AMD really trying to cut the branch it's sitting on?

 

[Pill Monster]

Yeah, we're at about 5000. Just a bit higher. Guru3d and us have swapped positions many times, with us being the higher in the rankings more often than not.

Yeah but do you realize Guru3D members don't need to visit the site to read replies to subbed threads, or pm's? The replies are contained in the email notifications.
I could sit at my desk and read an entire thread without going to the forum This means a lot of the members don't show up as traffic.

On a good day there are about 100 members on the forum 700 guests and 4500 for the site... TPU is great but the forum is def not as busy as Guru's forum, I don't know about the main site though.

Not trying to argue, just putting things into perspective. TBh Hilbert said the forum only just broke even....wasn't really a priority for him afaik..... Maybe it's the same for wiz?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

So why worry...

Journalistic integrity. Consistency. Reassurance. So on and so fourth. It was bad enough that AMD announced the Nano price of $649.99 and now this. FFS, if the problem with Fiji supply, leading to this...vaporware...situation was HBM, then why doesn't AMD put out a press release saying it is? AMD goes through delaying rebranding (that's funny but it, unfortunately, is not a joke) for Fiji, delays Nano to build up supply, and Fiji cards are still as rare as 4-leaf clovers. It does not compute. And what does AMD have to say about it? Apparently nothing. You'd think investors would have the right to know about this stuff.


Why worry? Fuck ups like this is more proof AMD is going in the crapper and that's not what anyone needs.

 

[Batou1986]

TPU the site owned by the person that spent years making overclocking tools for AMD/ATI is biased against AMD/ATI

I want new friends to go back to /g/ with their conspiracy bullshit.

The nano was the only interesting card based off Fiji, at the price of a 980ti it was dead on arrival in my eyes anyway.
At this point it seems console chips are the only thing keeping AMD from bankruptcy, their CPU's haven't competed with anything since the core series launched and the only GPU's they have worth buying are 3 year old cards that can deliver acceptable performance for their price 7970/7950

By the time DX12 becomes relevant Nvidia will have new cards out that will walk all over AMD like they currently do in DX11.

Sincerely, an AMD fanboy.

 

[jabbadap]

Yeah what next, releasing a card as oem only. Though I lost the interest on the price announcement, 14/16nm can't come fast enough.

 

[Cloudfire]

What should have been:

Fury X: $550
Fury: $450
R9 Nano: $400

imo

 

[bogami]

Everything caution AMD development team to keep everything under their control raises in a lot of dust.
NVIDIA just waiting when will AMD again come in such big problems when they can easily bought this knowledge. Some developers will jump to another ship and AMD has developed new technology for NVIDIA without gratitude but for breadcrumbs. NVIDIA to the largest customer behave disrespectful and sells scrap cutout processor as best gameing product, and many do not even know it. Horror

 

[cadaveca]

Yeah but do you realize Guru3D members don't need to visit the site to read replies to subbed threads, or pm's? The replies are contained in the email notifications.
I could sit at my desk and read an entire thread without going to the forum This means a lot of the members don't show up as traffic.

On a good day there are about 100 members on the forum 700 guests and 4500 for the site... TPU is great but the forum is def not as busy as Guru's forum, I don't know about the main site though.

Not trying to argue, just putting things into perspective. TBh Hilbert said the forum only just broke even....wasn't really a priority for him afaik..... Maybe it's the same for wiz?

Yeah, that's it, our forum isn't the main source of traffic at all; it's all front page. Which, as you said, is pretty obvious by the member/post count.

Either way, we are neck-and-neck often. And I'm talking using Amazon's metrics, not our own, which may be far different.

 

[john_]

With this stupid tactics, they will manage to give more reasons to the tech sites to attack them in the future. If they have 100 cards, they should send all of them to the press and none at retail. Not 5 at the press and 95 at retail.

 

[RejZoR]

If anything, TPU is by far the least biased review site. Maybe they make tiny mistakes here and there (like everyone else), but they certainly aren't biased. I've seen highly favorable reviews of AMD products, but only when they deserved it. And same goes for NVIDIA products. Saying TPU is biased is just silly. They are just honest and some apparently don't like that...

 

[truth teller]

With this stupid tactics, they will manage to give more reasons to the tech sites to attack them in the future. If they have 100 cards, they should send all of them to the press and none at retail. Not 5 at the press and 95 at retail.

pretty sure its not lack of cards that made them refuse to send sample to some reviewers, besides, if lack of samples was a problem they could just as easily rotate the cards amongst reviewers a bit early so all can review them before launch date (pretty sure wizz, and most, would have no problem shipping the card back and/or to another reviewer)

if amds marketing team continues with tactics like this, they will be no different from the nvidia marketing team moves

very fishy moves, shiet will hit the fan if there is something wrong with the cards, and people will find out, sooner or later, this kind of moves only delay the blow

 

[cadaveca]

I don't think AMD is trying to hide anything. Fury and FuryX are still OOS or pre-order here. BTA said simply, AMD is low on stock.

At the same time, AMD doesn't sell cards directly... their board partners do. SO the idea that AMD doesn't have stock makes a lot of sense, since all ASICs are going to meet orders by those board partners... probably direct from whomever is assembling the packages. AMD probably doesn't get any dies themselves other than what they already had on-hand.

The sites they have chosen to give cards to, who cares? The point of the news post is educational... you guys want our review, but we will not have one. So on launch day, please go look at other sites for reviews. No big deal, and this saves us having to deal with all of this on launch day.

Why not TPU? How about our lack of a social media presence, and lack of youtube presence? That's enough reason...

 

[Lionheart]

Erghh... Please Samsung or Microsoft just buy AMD already please

 

[Nordic]

HardOCP said they would buy the card if they had to, would expect TPU would do same.

I think tpu gives the best gpu reviews. By reading the news post, I am not surprised to see that it seems TPU agrees with me.

I would expect them to do the same as HardOCP, but that does not mean they will. They don't have to. So I asked the question hoping for a confirmation.

 

[Dieinafire]

Amd is dropping the ball again! It's what they do

 

[NC37]

If anything, TPU is by far the least biased review site. Maybe they make tiny mistakes here and there (like everyone else), but they certainly aren't biased. I've seen highly favorable reviews of AMD products, but only when they deserved it. And same goes for NVIDIA products. Saying TPU is biased is just silly. They are just honest and some apparently don't like that...

Because many TPU reviews are far too nice. Ratings over 8 or 9 for so-so products. I've looked at them and seen many noting some glaring issues with a product, then that product getting a TPU recommendation/etc. It's like...seriously TPU? You state it has some major issues then you highly recommend it? I thought they might be getting some pay for good reviews but I've just seen it too many times that it is clear some of the people are just too lenient here.

The content of the reviews are good, but the TPU rating system and such is often crap. If a product has a major issue, it should reflect greatly in the score and also not garner a recommendation.