Corsair Unveils its First Inverted-ATX Cases, the Carbide 600Q and Carbide 600C

[btarunr]

Corsair, a world leader in enthusiast PC hardware and components, today announced the release of the new Corsair Carbide 600Q and Carbide 600C high-performance PC cases. With iconic minimalist styling, a wealth of sound-deadening features (600Q), a huge clear side-panel window (600C) and distinctive inverted-ATX interior design, the 600Q and 600C continue the Corsair tradition of innovation and excellence in modern PC case design to deliver a no-compromise approach to PC cooling.

Unlike many PC cases which demand enthusiasts choose between noisy, high-airflow ventilation or low-noise, restricted airflow designs, the 600Q and 600C are able to deliver the best of both. The distinctive inverted-ATX internal design places the heat producing components in the direct airflow pathway of the two AF140L 140mm intake fans and single AF140L 140 mm exhaust fan, providing powerful and efficient cooling, with extra wide vents ensuring unimpeded airflow.



Specially tuned for low-noise operation, the 600Q and 600C's three included fans have been redesigned for excellent airflow at lower noise levels, with an integrated external 3-speed fan controller allowing users to reduce the fan RPM, further lowering noise with a minimal impact on cooling performance. The result is a no-compromise approach to cooling that delivers fantastic system temperatures at extremely low noise levels.

The 600Q dedication to low-noise continues well beyond fan speeds. High density sound deadening material fitted in the front panel, side panels, and roof works to further mute system noise and ensure that the 600Q is as quiet as it is beautiful.

Clean and minimalist styling that's both eye-catching yet reserved combines with solid steel exterior paneling and a premium finish. The distinctive curved front panel houses two 5.25in drive bays secreted behind a hinged flap, offering full functionality without compromising on looks. Inside you'll find two tool-free 3.5in drive bays and three tool-free 2.5in drive bays integrated into a stylish PSU and drive bay cover. A plethora of cable routing holes, tie-downs and cable grommets make building in the 600Q and 600C easy, so your system can look as good on the inside as it does on the outside.

Available in December from Corsair's world-wide network of retailers and distributors, the Carbide 600Q and Carbide 600C are backed by a comprehensive two year warranty and Corsair's world-wide customer support network.

Specifications

• Inverse-ATX Layout: With this new layout, airflow is easily directed at the hottest devices in your system; the GPU and CPU, and not wasted on drive cages.
• Sound Damping Throughout (600Q only): Keep your system quiet and cool with high-density sound damping material on side panels, front panel, and top panels. It's so quiet, you'll find yourself wondering if your PC is even powered on.
• Hinged and Latched Full Side Panel Window (600C only): Easily access your components with a single touch - and when closed, enjoy viewing every part of your build through the full size side panel window.
• Steel Exterior: Get rid of those plastic cases - the 600Q and 600C have full steel exterior panels for extra durability and gorgeous good looks.
• Three Included AF140L fans: Great airflow doesn't have to be noisy - the three AF140L fans can push large amounts of air across your hottest devices without that annoying fan hum, and the three-speed fan controller lets you decide exactly how fast they run.
• PSU and 5.25" Bay Cover: Clean up the inside of your case by tucking all those cables and less-attractive drives behind a clean, refined PSU and 5.25" bay cover. Or remove them for assembly - it's up to you.
• Watercooling Ready: Fit up to a 280mm radiator up front and up to a 360mm radiator on the bottom - along with a 140mm rear fan mount.
• Easy to Clean: Easily access dust filters on front and bottom meaning you'll never spend more than a minute getting dust out of your system.
• Easy to Build: Tool-free drive installation, tool-free side panel access, and tons of cable routing options and tie downs means you can spend less time building your PC and more time using it.
• MSRP: $149.99 exc. Tax

For more information, visit the product pages of the 600Q and the 600C.

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[Deleted member 105021]

I don't see the point of this.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I don't see the point of this.

The point is to make your PSU ingest a lot of heat from your graphics card(s) while maintaining silky smooth low CPU temps should you be running an 280mm AIO at the bottom of your case.

Because heat rises.

 

[Chaitanya]

that interior is very similar to Silverstone Raven, and from early reviews its seems to suffer from higher than usual GPU temps.

 

[trog100]

The point is to make your PSU ingest a lot of heat from your graphics card(s) while maintaining silky smooth low CPU temps should you be running an 280mm AIO at the bottom of your case.

Because heat rises.

it would make sense to have my cpu cooler below the graphics cards rather than directly above them.. my cards generate more heat than the cpu and would be better off near the top of the case.. not so sure of the psu being up there as well mind you..

win some lose some..

trog

 

[peche]

why corsair?
getting back to 90's & top loading PSU for heat ingestion?

...

 

[FreedomEclipse]

it would make sense to have my cpu cooler below the graphics cards rather than directly above them.. my cards generate more heat than the cpu and would be better off near the top of the case.. not so sure of the psu being up there as well mind you..

win some lose some..

trog

if youre on traditional air cooling - it doesnt apply because the interior of your case gets warm/hot anyway regardless of positioning. IMO you might shave an extra 2-3c off??? 4-5'c at most Because dont forgot your mobo has VRMs and those VRMS generate a fair amount of heat too if youre overclocked. If they decided to go down the same route as the Silverstone Raven cases and have everything kind of mounted vertically then that would by far be a better idea as far as cooling goes.

Then again, a case like this corsair one fills a rather niche market. Not everyone is going to buy one.

 

[HM_Actua1]

I don't understand this? I mean yah I'm sure someone would want to try this but why?

 

[AsRock]

Is a shame they did not put the PSU sideways to take air from out side or even make it top vented but can understand on the later why not as some people have terrible habits.

Be nice to see a taller one with 120mm fan above the graphics card and reverse the air flow.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

The point is to make your PSU ingest a lot of heat from your graphics card(s) while maintaining silky smooth low CPU temps should you be running an 280mm AIO at the bottom of your case.

Because heat rises.

using 4 fans on that 280mm AIO could push the heat out the bottom, more effectively than just 2, leaving behind no more heat than most bottom mounted PS do. just a guess.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Not too sure about the reason for WANTING the PSU to ingest hot air from inside the tower, unless they want you to get a new PSU every year instead of every 4.

It's not like it would have been hard for them to put a grill on top for PSU to suck fresh air in from there.

 

[Corsair George]

Not too sure about the reason for WANTING the PSU to ingest hot air from inside the tower, unless they want you to get a new PSU every year instead of every 4.

It's not like it would have been hard for them to put a grill on top for PSU to suck fresh air in from there.

You guys know that the PSU is designed to intake hot air from the rest of the case, right? That's the original intent of the ATX specifications? And with almost every Corsair PSU being able to perform their rated output at 50C, even without the fan running at idle on a lot of them, and the PSU having multiple Over-Temperature protection settings and safeties, that this config, in fact, will not stress your PSU any more than it was originally intended?

In this config we see a few advantages:

1) Direct airflow path from the front fans to GPU/CPU without having to get rid of the 5.25" bays completely.
2) Better GPU cooling on GPUs that feature complex heatpipe/vapor chamber designs as they are orientation dependent and work better in this layout typically.
3) Better CPU and CPU VRM cooling if you use the bottom fan as an intake and blow cold air directly across the CPU/VRM area. Yes, there is a dust filter for this.
4) You can see the sexy cool part of your graphics card instead of the boring PCB.

It's not for everyone, of course. But I highly recommend you guys keep your eyes peeled. There are real advantages to the Inverse ATX layout. Some people won't dig it, that's cool.

But the cooling/noise ratio of this layout is simply awesome.

Also I happen to like the looks, but I understand some people don't. That's why we have ~20 other cases.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

(Corsair George posted while I was finishing this post)
I feel like the marketing department didn't consult with the people who designed this case. In order for this case to work correctly, the amount of air coming in has to be greater than the amount of air taken out - there must be "excess" air to move across the GPU's and out the back (notice the vented area behind the GPU's) as well as air for the PSU. As pictured in the 2 GPU setup above, there are more fans blowing out than in, so the PSU fan ends up fighting for air, as well as the GPU's sitting in a dead air area.
As for "heating up the PSU", quality PSU's are made to run in 40-50°C ambient temps, so this shouldn't be a problem.
Now if a person added to the 140L intake fans by putting 2 x 140L or 3 x 120L fans on the bottom blowing in, then I could see this case performing wonderfully and quietly. (see below)
IMHO, this case should be limited to about 400 watts of CPU and GPU, such as a mainstream i7 with a pair of GTX 980's.
Why the solid top? Simple answer - noise. Also, I have some friends who have birds roaming free in their house. Solid top is a very good idea for them.

......, and from early reviews its seems to suffer from higher than usual GPU temps.

I'm not finding that??????
From kitguru.net: (The PSU is a Seasonic Platinum Fanless 520W!!!!)

Corsair Carbide 600C with the addition of a 280mm liquid cooler {blowing in} is epic. This chassis had no problem keeping our Core i7-4820K running at a low temperature. Our GTX 980 graphics card ran at its usual 78 degrees under full load. Cooling in this chassis is top notch.

@Corsair George , why are you guys marketing this case in a way that users are bound to have a poor experience with it?

 

[Corsair George]

@Corsair George , why are you guys marketing this case in a way that users are bound to have a poor experience with it?

What do you mean? Are you asking why the case was photographed with the fans on bottom exhausting?

 

[thebluebumblebee]

What do you mean? Are you asking why the case was photographed with the fans on bottom exhausting?

Yes

 

[rtwjunkie]

You guys know that the PSU is designed to intake hot air from the rest of the case, right?

Well, you guys have fun informing the rest of the case industry about that.

I'll keep my PSU sucking cool air in through the filtered bottom until you personally run your own PSU in 50C temperatures 24/7 until it breaks...which will be before mine does.

 

[peche]

You guys know that the PSU is designed to intake hot air from the rest of the case, right? That's the original intent of the ATX specifications? And with almost every Corsair PSU being able to perform their rated output at 50C, even without the fan running at idle on a lot of them, and the PSU having multiple Over-Temperature protection settings and safeties, that this config, in fact, will not stress your PSU any more than it was originally intended?

In this config we see a few advantages:

1) Direct airflow path from the front fans to GPU/CPU without having to get rid of the 5.25" bays completely.
2) Better GPU cooling on GPUs that feature complex heatpipe/vapor chamber designs as they are orientation dependent and work better in this layout typically.
3) Better CPU and CPU VRM cooling if you use the bottom fan as an intake and blow cold air directly across the CPU/VRM area. Yes, there is a dust filter for this.
4) You can see the sexy cool part of your graphics card instead of the boring PCB.

It's not for everyone, of course. But I highly recommend you guys keep your eyes peeled. There are real advantages to the Inverse ATX layout. Some people won't dig it, that's cool.

But the cooling/noise ratio of this layout is simply awesome.

Also I happen to like the looks, but I understand some people don't. That's why we have ~20 other cases.

want to get rig of some bays and also better airflow?
on some cases you can take advantage of full desing for better airflow for motherboard and other hardware...

Spoiler: so ...

 

[Corsair George]

Well, you guys have fun informing the rest of the case industry about that.

I'll keep my PSU sucking cool air in through the filtered bottom until you personally run your own PSU in 50C temperatures 24/7 until it breaks...which will be before mine does.

There's no informing anybody - everyone knows. The Antec 900 was one of the first cases to move the PSU to the bottom, but it wasn't for better PSU cooling - it was so they could put a 200mm fan over the CPU. Ever since then, people have used the top as a better location for fan mounting and moved the PSU to the bottom for enthusiast chassis. The reason has NOTHING to do with PSU longevity - barring some tragic component failure, the PSU is probably the functional component that will last the longest in your chassis. Modern PSUs like our RMx/RMi, HX, AX, etc, are so ridiculously overbuilt that they can run @ 100% @ 50C for 5 years straight. And since nobody ever does that, they can last significantly longer.

The PSU is almost an entirely self-contained system. It has its own cooling, its own temperature and fan control, and its own OCP, OTP, OVP, etc. It is one of the most durable parts of your system and can handle tons of different things.

By flipping the whole thing upside down you end up increasing the temperature of incoming air from ambient (external) to ambient (internal). So, say your room is 25C, and the internal of your case is 35C, then you just raised the ambient 10C. But if your PSU is designed to operate at 50C, that has almost no relevance.

You are right about one thing - the lifespan will decrease shortly based on that temp. If it lasts, say, 70,000 hours @ 50C, then it might last 100,000 hours at 25C, and 85,000 hours at 35C. I honestly don't know the derating curve off the top of my head, but you have the theory correct - it's just that in practice it will make nearly no difference.

And like I've said other places - we do sell a ton of regular layout ATX cases if you'd rather have a 750D or something.

 

[Corsair George]

Yes

Because in our tests, the only time bottom intake made a performance difference is when you were using radial style GPU fans (Asus Direct CU style). The reference blower-style exhausts enough air by itself that bottom exhaust and front intake works just a bit better, even in SLI.

 

[peche]

t

There's no informing anybody - everyone knows. The Antec 900 was one of the first cases to move the PSU to the bottom, but it wasn't for better PSU cooling - it was so they could put a 200mm fan over the CPU. Ever since then, people have used the top as a better location for fan mounting and moved the PSU to the bottom for enthusiast chassis. The reason has NOTHING to do with PSU longevity - barring some tragic component failure, the PSU is probably the functional component that will last the longest in your chassis. Modern PSUs like our RMx/RMi, HX, AX, etc, are so ridiculously overbuilt that they can run @ 100% @ 50C for 5 years straight. And since nobody ever does that, they can last significantly longer.

here is not so much to investigate lad... use your brain first...
is better for a PSU to breath fresh air than hot air from CPU cooler...

regards...

 

[cdawall]

Well, you guys have fun informing the rest of the case industry about that.

I'll keep my PSU sucking cool air in through the filtered bottom until you personally run your own PSU in 50C temperatures 24/7 until it breaks...which will be before mine does.

Want to be really specific? This is the original ATX specification booklet. The PSU is supposed to be used to cool the processor. So no it was never designed to be at the bottom of the case per ATX specification it was supposed to be placed near the CPU drawing air off of the passive CPU cooler.

source

 

[rtwjunkie]

Want to be really specific? This is the original ATX specification booklet. The PSU is supposed to be used to cool the processor. So no it was never designed to be at the bottom of the case per ATX specification it was supposed to be placed near the CPU drawing air off of the passive CPU cooler.

source

Remember way back when, when it did that? PSU's were not all that long-lasting or reliable. But do notice it says "if the power supply is expected to cool the processor.." Which means it isn't REQUIRED to. That's there for those lazy computer manufacturers in early 2000's who couldn't be bothered to provide enough airflow.

I'll keep my PSU with fresh air. But I can't argue with choice. Choices are good for those that want them.

 

[FX-GMC]

Remember way back when, when it did that? PSU's were not all that long-lasting or reliable. But do notice it says "if the power supply is expected to cool the processor.." Which means it isn't REQUIRED to. That's there for those lazy computer manufacturers in early 2000's who couldn't be bothered to provide enough airflow.

I'll keep my PSU with fresh air. But I can't argue with choice. Choices are good for those that want them.

I'd say this has more to do with the design of modern PSUs than a small temperature change.

 

[cdawall]

Remember way back when, when it did that? PSU's were not all that long-lasting or reliable. But do notice it says "if the power supply is expected to cool the processor.." Which means it isn't REQUIRED to. That's there for those lazy computer manufacturers in early 2000's who couldn't be bothered to provide enough airflow.

I'll keep my PSU with fresh air. But I can't argue with choice. Choices are good for those that want them.

I still have an original ATX power supply that works on a slot A machine. Grey box special, no UL listing. I have had multiple under 5 year old good brand/good UL powersupplies die when being used under 80% of their rated spec. Provide all the fresh air you want, they are still designed to exhaust heat from the case. Corsair, Antec, EVGA etc all rate their units at 100% load and 50C intake temps for a reason.

 

[rtwjunkie]

There's no informing anybody - everyone knows.

Actually they don't all know what you profess they do, or there would not be a (filtered) intake on the bottom on nearly all cases. There would be nothing there but metal, and instructions with case telling people to make sure the intake fan is pointed up to help suck out hot air from the case. The hundred or so case manufacturers are all doing it the same way (except for the cheap ones who don't provide a filter).