OFFICIAL Armored Warfare (Discussion)

[burebista]

Lo and behold. Brace yourselves guys, nerf...aaaa....patch incoming.

 

[GreiverBlade]

isn't it already on? or this morning patch was the camo patch? because the ROF nerf is known since the beginning of the week (or more ... i don't remember )

and a nerf ... not so, a Leo 2A4 in real situation ROF is 8 shells a minute in good fighting condition ... having my IG tank to a 5.90s instead of a more real 7.50s is good indeed but hardly realist, even with hard training we couldn't bring it lower than 6.90s (irl timer)

tho ROF insanity was good for slow to reload tanks ... Sheri MBT-70 T-series ... yes i am looking at you ...

oh well i will adapt, it annoy me a bit for TD but whatever ... as long as it reflect on the bot too ... i got tired to hear "incoming incoming DRIVER MOVE!" 3 time in a row in around 3 second with only 1 PZH-2000 on the map, since PZH-2000 burst (with autoloader) is 3 shells in 9 seconds which is already short enough

edit: yep already on, my 2A5 has 7.05 and my 2AV has 6.42 now (instead of 5.90) and my PAC 90 has 4.10, RDF 2.85 and Taifun 6.00 well not much change for TD on my side then, only MBT are grieved (well the Wiesel 1 8.15 is kinda odd but still can be handled )

 

[burebista]

Hmm, for PvE I didn't see anything tragic with reload. Sure I lost half a second here and there but no biggie for me. Also I received a buff for Akatsiya and LAV-600 (better aim/reload) and that's nice.
I've swapped Anthony (leadership is not worth now IMO) with Freja on all my tanks with loader and it's OK.

I'm looking around for camo now and I guess I'll bite the bullet for Zhalo and AMX but it costs me 2.4 mil for each so it will take a while.

Bottom line no complains here after a day of playing.

 

[ne6togadno]

Hmm, for PvE I didn't see anything tragic with reload. Sure I lost half a second here and there but no biggie for me. Also I received a buff for Akatsiya and LAV-600 (better aim/reload) and that's nice.
I've swapped Anthony (leadership is not worth now IMO) with Freja on all my tanks with loader and it's OK.

I'm looking around for camo now and I guess I'll bite the bullet for Zhalo and AMX but it costs me 2.4 mil for each so it will take a while.

Bottom line no complains here after a day of playing.

start with base paint. it is free

 

[burebista]

Ah yes, I did it for some tanks already.

 

[ne6togadno]

hmm
what is exchange rate gold->credits

 

[GreiverBlade]

hmm
what is exchange rate gold->credits

1 gold = 1600Cr

also ... i decided to go for Taifun/VFM/Wiesel as 1st camo shot since i gonna keep those 3 for a while (god i love the Wiesel xD)

the Taifun is so beautiful in winter camo ...

 

[burebista]

New toy.

Now I can play for a while. All my initial goals are fulfilled.

 

[GreiverBlade]

New toy.

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Now I can play for a while. All my initial goals are fulfilled.

NEED! ... but sadly i can't handle at all the BMD-4 ... dunno why ... i can't get good result with ...

 

[burebista]

BMD-4 is the most funniest autocannon tank in this game. For me of course.
It handles magnificent, it has one 100 mm cannon with HE, it has that funny autocannon and it has rockets with a serious punch. In PvE I like it to the bits.
OK, it's not suitable for any map but on right maps it really shine. I have "some" games when I dish out more damage than two Tier 8 tanks together.

Just have some patience. Look at it as a Fox on steroids.

 

[ne6togadno]

got leo 2av and dont like it. nice gun but armor is same shit as leos below
also found my ultimate $$$ machine. type-59. even in bad game at least 30k vs 2-3k for repair and ammo.

 

[GreiverBlade]

the fox was awful for me ... that's a nice comparison to me , HE only really usable against Arty ... well in PVE not really a sweetspot, autocan ? inferior to the RMK 25 (1st upgrade from the Wiesel) surviviability? inferior to the Wiesel, missile ? impractical for me unless it's the only weapon on the tank (ie: swingfire or VBL INGWE ) nope ... i am clearly not made for a BMD-4 and a tri weapon system tho i will still play it ... just like the Ariete it might only be the 1st missions series who are bad

got leo 2av and dont like it. nice gun but armor is same shit as leos below
also found my ultimate $$$ machine. type-59. even in bad game at least 30k vs 2-3k for repair and ammo.

the LEO 2AV once fully upgraded shine ... 4 retros ... the LEO 2 (2A4 in reality ) is inferior to it even by having a 120mm instead of a 105 only 2 retros and even the 2A5 feels not good when i compare to my 2AV ICE (i love the 2 AV so much that i took the ICE for that )
and yep Type-59 is good for $$$ making

tho the 2A5 is a beauty i have to confess (and sturdy as hell as long as you keep the your front up to the enemy )


EDIT! because i h-have to ... @burebista ... you did it on purpose to motivate me to give more chance to the BeeMDee four

awwww only second ... that was a hell of a Paladin we got here and the BMP-3M was better than me ... but at last i had a good play on it

 

[ne6togadno]

retrofits cant fix poor armor. got few matches with it yesterday (or rather early today) and stingray 2's made my frontal like swiss cheese. just point and shoot on me and i am ~ -400hp. is should've picked 72A
ice is with +10% stats (duno if armor tickness is affected too).

 

[GreiverBlade]

retrofits cant fix poor armor. got few matches with it yesterday (or rather early today) and stingray 2's made my frontal like swiss chees. just point and shoot on me and i am ~ -400hp. is should've picked 72A
ice is with +10% stats (duno if armor tickness is affected too).

no but behavior can.... as long as you're hiding your hull that tank is quite good, tho i reckon it's not easy to do so

also DON'T EVER MAKE FUN OF Swiss Cheese ... it's deadly ... ok not as much as Corsica cheese ... but still.

iirc +10% does not affect the hp and armor i have the same 2050HP as a fully upgraded std 2AV

stats are still the same at base but you get a LV5 crew indeed and the ICE camo give the same rating as paid camo it seems (not that it change it a lot ), tho i agree the 2AV is not my favorite tank even on ICE (holiday? anyone? ) but i like it far more than T-series tank, dunno why i can't bring me to like that series ... specially the 90MS, i am more used to the Leo i guess ...

oh... and Stingray 2 is OP no matter how you look at it

 

[ne6togadno]

jocke was with leo armor not with swiss cheese.
3 shot on from stingray 2 and it looks like this

. not nice for mbt
russians have good punch and hiding lower front it much easyer with them. their mobility though (aside from top speed) is not good.
will see if i will find way to handle it after some more matches. so far i've played 3 or 4 with it.

 

[GreiverBlade]

jocke was with leo armor not with swiss cheese.
3 shot on from stingray 2 and it looks like this

. not nice for mbt
russians have good punch and hiding lower front it much easyer with them. their mobility though (aside from top speed) is not good.
will see if i will find way to handle it after some more matches. so far i've played 3 or 4 with it.

i know the joke was about leo armor

also ... it took me 10 missions to get used to the BMD-4

 

[burebista]

You see man? You can do it.

 

[GreiverBlade]

did i said that i love the Wiesel 1? ... well even on a loss i have a lot of fun with it! definitely getting a CRAB for T9

shame that they got close to objective 1 too soon ...

 

[ne6togadno]

11.5m credits!!!!
BOOO
i have 17k
try to use wiesel with commander arabian guy (pfu forgot his name) or the one with the gas mask

 

[burebista]

That arabian guy is the master of flames.

 

[ne6togadno]

That arabian guy is the master of flames.

indeed
pain in the arse for my challenger 1 when i get flanked by auto loader shooting with HE.
i think they should reduce crit chance for auto loader HE cause it it a bit imba. 3rd shot and you are in flames. a lot of times got fuel tank fire in pve even from frontal shots too

 

[GreiverBlade]

Loannis Sanna is the master of flame...

The syrian Rashid Al Atassi is atgm specialist

 

[burebista]

Special dedication for Greiver.



Unfortunately no comment for my "team"...

LE: And a couple of battles later...


With the crappiest TD in game.

 

[GreiverBlade]

With the crappiest TD in game.

used to be "the crappiest" or so ... they buffed it up during the last patch, right?

Special dedication for Greiver.

WHY YOU??!!?? now i have to...













go in a corner and cry









joking

edit currently in the process of testing Loannis Sanna on the BeeMDee four and Wiesel

 

[burebista]

used to be "the crappiest" or so ... they buffed it up during the last patch, right?

Yeah, reload and accuracy/aim time IIRC.
Now it's playable but still no gun depression and lacks view range/camo.
But indeed if you're cautious you can dish some damage.