OFFICIAL Armored Warfare (Discussion)

[tabascosauz]

@GreiverBlade Hmmm that might be an explanation for the left-side penetrating shots.

One instance was over the right side applique though, and right in the middle of all the plating, where there is no gap. This is interesting though.

I have a suspicion that the Ramka-99 penetrations are caused by the weakness of the two headlights on each side of the driver hatch, or the turret ring. Apparently those two lights are weak, and the turret ring is completely unprotected on Ramka unlike Termi 2, which has a lot of Relikt covering the ring. With sufficient penetration such as the M8's it might go clean through.


Also, I came across this video

describing the Vickers MBT Mk.7/2

While the early models of the Vickers MBT basically looked like Centurions, this one seemed to be a Chally 1/2 type turret mated to a Leopard 2 hull and MTU 883. Also claims to be Chobham armoured, probably first generation Chobham like the Challenger.

I guess I really shouldn't be posting this as it encourages OE to just add more and more useless tanks .......but it's an interesting find nonetheless. I think it's quite the looker; the Chally turrets always were sleek and the Leopard 2 hull looks absolutely stunning on just about anything. I wonder what would've happened if the British actually had some common sense and switched over to this instead of being stubborn with their stupid rifled 120mm. At least this one can fit a L/44 without any modification.

Jingles talked about the Chally 2 in his latest video, and according to him the Chally is basically dead. The 120mm rifled gun is accepted to be the weakest MBT armament in service today, and yet it cannot be swapped for a L/44 or L/55 because that would require a major turret and hull redesign. Worse still, no one makes any more ammo for the 120mm rifled gun and the outdated CHARM 3 is basically the best that any challenger will get.

 

[burebista]

New entry.



Looks promising...

 

[GreiverBlade]

oh well i know what to expect from my 1st T10 in line ... will see next monday i guess.

 

[burebista]

This sh!t is hilarious on open maps.



In some games I have double damage than Armata lol.
I don't regret a second wasting my credits on it. It's fun.

 

[GreiverBlade]

my 1st encounter with T10 player ... and my worst Umbrella ever ... pfff overspawn trigger not engaging those who engage me (specially Ramka and Termi 2 ) and rushcap

it was still a win ... but meh ... the Armata only did 2k dmg more than me for 7 kill more (me 4 him 11 ) the XM1A3 was 1st with 17k dmg

the funniest was the "Maru[XM1A3]: 10 " in the chat right at the start ... oh well he's proud, i get it

now i really need to get to the Sphinx ... if only they didn't nerf PVE player again on Cr income with the change of the daily reward ... pfeh

edit ... i really love Frostbite with the CRAB ... i really do .... 2% advancement only in that one ... (was 51% just before)

 

[burebista]

Come on Greiver, where's your first Tier 10?

And yes, open maps for AFV's are like water in desert, a blessing.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Come on Greiver, where's your first Tier 10?

And yes, open maps for AFV's are like water in desert, a blessing.

would you kindly Sht'ap i didn't save month of lockrep and i have 1 T9 more and you 2 T10 my 4 T9 are enough for now and monday : Sphinx in fact only the Sphinx tempt me ... dunno why i have become a LT/AFV unconditional and TD since i am rather good with the Cent120 Wolf and LAV-600 (well ... who did guess )

so for me now it's AFV>LT>TD>>>>>>>>>>>MBT

you didn't see that post?

oh well i know what to expect from my 1st T10 in line ... will see next monday i guess.

m.o.n.d.a.y


the second will come later ... after my holiday in Spain (30.05-15.06)


edit ... now that i wrote that i prefer LT over MBT's ... i guess the PL-01 became tempting .... ARGH!

awwww... my 1st Blue On Blue ... oh well it was a loss because i was the only one on the communication center cap at 1min left and still 1st and the only 1 over 2k base rep (the only casualty is the BOB ... he did run straight in my line of fire about 2 sec after i fired, long range on a Stinger)


aaaaawww yeah 310k $$$moolas$$$(not 1st ... the M1A1 spoted more than me ) and my 1st Cr daily reward, so 410k base ... not worth the hassle tho ... the old system was more rewarding, specially spread between 3 difficulties

 

[GreiverBlade]

another HP enhance Draco ... bwahahaha


i am too good to be true ... the "TDAFVSPAAGSPG"(tm) Draco is still my fav atm


whaaaattt no blue star? oh ... the 2A6 spotted more than i did, fair enough


edit ... it's a fully un retrofitted Draco ... only my CRAB is fully retro.

edit 2, all upgrades done (last Cr package just now ) 5rep ready and 24% to go ... i might keep my lockrep for the CRAB ... or the chally 2



... can't stop ...

3 CRAB on a Frostbite well guess the top 3 on 5 ... (ok i am bottom top but i did run all 2ndry and arty spot ... so i exposed myself a bit too much )


Frostbite: the map for your CRAB's ... not in your underwear tho ...

 

[Flogger23m]

I am actually playing this. An MMO and free to play game. It is okay but a bit too basic. And I am finding it too grindy. I'm doing PVE to unlock stuff and it is okay for now, but I am not sure I can play it long term. On level 4 BMP-1P and T-64 right now. Seems like a pain to get above them.

 

[burebista]

On standard account and playing only PvE yes, you'll have a long way in front of you.
From time to time Obsidian sweeten the pill with some events/free premium tanks/stuff like that so you can boost your grind. But indeed is not a solution just a temporary patch.

 

[burebista]

Another teaser for Greiver.



You know, tomorrow is Monday...

 

[GreiverBlade]

You know, tomorrow is Monday...

Andddd? i will have it tomorrow ... or not ... if i don't have it tomorrow that would just mean that i could get it but i did come back to my sense and find useless to run after T10 for now and focus on my T9 and other non unlocked pre T9
(after all i still want my 3 other Shishkin T9 and the last Wölfli )

Btw i wonder how you do that .... most of all people (if not all, i have yet to see someone, other than you, do triple of what i normally do) have results akin to mine (just look at my screenshot, sometime you see one that does up to ~6k more but nowhere near double ), and you... get double to triple mostly all the time despite you once said it wasn't all too common.

Sidenote ... it seems that you are just too good, oh well ever thought of competitive? Getting sponsor etc etc etc
me i can't, altho i did some CS ESL but PVP is PVP ... and e-sport is a plague, well OE and MY.com want to go competitive e-sport but everybody say : "what bring player on AW is PVE, not PVP and competition, otherwise they would stay on WoT and their toxic community" ... and they are right

I am actually playing this. An MMO and free to play game. It is okay but a bit too basic. And I am finding it too grindy. I'm doing PVE to unlock stuff and it is okay for now, but I am not sure I can play it long term. On level 4 BMP-1P and T-64 right now. Seems like a pain to get above them.

A bit too basic? well it's a game about 15min average tank on tank battle (think World of Warships/Tanks/Warplanes) theses kind of games don't need to be complexe, ofc you can have interesting history and background ... on the main site of the game. furthermore you don't play it long term it's not a MMORPG you play it from time to time no contraint no obligation no "no life'ing" if you don't want to, you play it as you like it : no consequences (except for competitive player ... but it's beginning to be ridiculous)

on the too grindy ... if you find it too grindy, then you play it wrong... the point is to enjoy playing with the tanks no matter what tier. I reckon it's hard, because not everybody like to/can play all tank (except probably me ) there is no "endgame" you don't have to rush to T10 like you rush for max lvlcap for a MMORPG

in example, i like to play in T9 but i get also a lot of fun replaying with the T-54 or the M113, and i get most of it between T4 and T6

 

[burebista]

Greiver this is me in WoT (you can see from graphs when I sold my account ). Played solo in randoms 90% of battles.
Me in WT. Also a lone wolf.

So, it looks like I'm a "little" addicted...

It's not rocket science to play. Learn the maps, learn the tanks, look around and go to battle.
But thanks for appreciation.

 

[tabascosauz]

I am actually playing this. An MMO and free to play game. It is okay but a bit too basic. And I am finding it too grindy. I'm doing PVE to unlock stuff and it is okay for now, but I am not sure I can play it long term. On level 4 BMP-1P and T-64 right now. Seems like a pain to get above them.

Yes, it is a grindy game, but so is every other MMO. I understand your pain though.

I think it will be very much worth the grind to get to the BMP-2 and T-72. I advanced the Russian tanks rather late into the game when I had mastered most of the Wolfli tree already, but the BMP line was my second line of unlocks. The BMP-1 and BMP-1P were once living hell. There used to be a mechanic that prevented one-shot-kills against PVE bots, meaning that if an enemy had only 340 health and the BMP-1 did 350 average HEAT alpha damage, then the enemy would be left with about 20 health. The BMP-1 and 1P induce a lot of frustration because they are Tier 4 vehicles; when grinding Tier 4, it is especially hard since you do not have access to Hard difficulty PvE, which grants more rewards and is a lot more interesting compared to Medium where everyone is whoring for what little damage they can get out of those low health enemies.

Contrary to popular belief, the worst and grindiest vehicles are not always from tiers 7, 8 and 9. Throughout the trees you will find that some vehicles just suck, have worthless upgrades or not a lot of upgrades at all, have low alpha damage or low damage per minute, don't have access to higher rewards, etc.

The BMP-2 will be your first taste of autocannons in the game, and I think you will vastly enjoy it over the 1P. Virtually every vehicle armed with single or twin 30mm 2A42/2A72s is wonderfully fun to play; on the flip side, all three of the 73mm Grom-armed BMP variants are complete shit. I know that @GreiverBlade is going to disagree with me on this one as he loves the BMD-2 over the BMP-2 and thinks that the BMP-1s are fun, but I think you will soon find that the BMP-2 is a very hard-hitting and enjoyable vehicle.

Also, @GreiverBlade it's a completely different experience when you're replaying by rebuying low tier vehicles. I'm sure I could go back to the 1P after the abolition of 1-hit-kill protection and all the buffs they've made to it over the past few months and "enjoy" it, but when all I had was a M60A3 and BMP-1P, it was anything but "ok" to play. I hated the BMP-1P, ERC and BMD-1 because they all were just a stepping stone to my now-owned BMP-3M, Cent 120 and Ramka/Warrior yet they stood out in their respective lines as very slow to progress through.

As for "basic", all I can say is that high tier PvP and PvE is a different world from mid and low tier battles. At low tiers, there is virtually no such thing as "armor", every and any vehicle can be penetrated easily with your bog standard non-autocannon APDS/APBC or HEAT rounds from just about any angle. At high tiers, you are not facing off against a M60 in your T-64, rather, something like an AI Leo 2A5/2A6 in your T-90. You will need to know the weakspots on every tank by heart, and artillery will no longer be something to be trifled with.

 

[GreiverBlade]

It's not rocket science to play. Learn the maps, learn the tanks, look around and go to battle.

ahahah... i am technically good at that too, i end most of the time 1st rank with a good margin ... yet you are way too much above and as i mention i see most people doing score on par with mine, slightly above (1k to 6k most of the time) or lower, but you ... nah it's just too unnatural that explanation is not the bottom, since i already do it, furthermore using the same tank i can't even graze those score (most of the other player also can't) don't diminuate yourself by being modest and writing "It's not rocket science to play. Learn the maps, learn the tanks," because as i said, i know my maps and i know my tanks (and enemy's tank weakness )

Yes, it is a grindy game, but so is every other MMO. I understand your pain though.

I think it will be very much worth the grind to get to the BMP-2 and T-72. I advanced the Russian tanks rather late into the game when I had mastered most of the Wolfli tree already, but the BMP line was my second line of unlocks. The BMP-1 and BMP-1P were once living hell. There used to be a mechanic that prevented one-shot-kills against PVE bots, meaning that if an enemy had only 340 health and the BMP-1 did 350 average HEAT alpha damage, then the enemy would be left with about 20 health. The BMP-1 and 1P induce a lot of frustration because they are Tier 4 vehicles; when grinding Tier 4, it is especially hard since you do not have access to Hard difficulty PvE, which grants more rewards and is a lot more interesting compared to Medium where everyone is whoring for what little damage they can get out of those low health enemies.

Contrary to popular belief, the worst and grindiest vehicles are not always from tiers 7, 8 and 9. Throughout the trees you will find that some vehicles just suck, have worthless upgrades or not a lot of upgrades at all, have low alpha damage or low damage per minute, don't have access to higher rewards, etc.

The BMP-2 will be your first taste of autocannons in the game, and I think you will vastly enjoy it over the 1P. Virtually every vehicle armed with single or twin 30mm 2A42/2A72s is wonderfully fun to play; on the flip side, all three of the 73mm Grom-armed BMP variants are complete shit. I know that @GreiverBlade is going to disagree with me on this one as he loves the BMD-2 over the BMP-2 and thinks that the BMP-1s are fun, but I think you will soon find that the BMP-2 is a very hard-hitting and enjoyable vehicle.

Also, @GreiverBlade it's a completely different experience when you're replaying by rebuying low tier vehicles. I'm sure I could go back to the 1P after the abolition of 1-hit-kill protection and all the buffs they've made to it over the past few months and "enjoy" it, but when all I had was a M60A3 and BMP-1P, it was anything but "ok" to play. I hated the BMP-1P, ERC and BMD-1 because they all were just a stepping stone to my now-owned BMP-3M, Cent 120 and Ramka/Warrior yet they stood out in their respective lines as very slow to progress through.

As for "basic", all I can say is that high tier PvP and PvE is a different world from mid and low tier battles. At low tiers, there is virtually no such thing as "armor", every and any vehicle can be penetrated easily with your bog standard non-autocannon APDS/APBC or HEAT rounds from just about any angle. At high tiers, you are not facing off against a M60 in your T-64, rather, something like an AI Leo 2A5/2A6 in your T-90. You will need to know the weakspots on every tank by heart, and artillery will no longer be something to be trifled with.

nah even at the start i never did find the game grindy and had a lot of fun going from t1 to t5 (on all branch at the "same" time ) , and the one hit kill was re implemented lately, because the game was a bit surrealist without indeed.

and the fastest tank i did (time in and reward vs progression) was ERC and BMD-2 and BMP-1/1P, different user different experience, i know ... i, for one, concur on the BMP-2, altho you need to learn to swap to missile between two AC clip (just like the BMP-3M or BMD-4 with the HE 100mm swap 30mm AC trick )

on the some vehicle just suck, i beg to differ as i have none (i even like the XM1 and T-80 now ... but my disliking from some tank is not because they suck, more because they don't fit my "aesthetic" sense ) .... just need some adaptation time and i am fine as if it was my own Leo. 2A4 sitting behind the gunner screen and command. on the other hand .... i understand that not everybody can adapt (or even want to adapt)

p.s. why did i never found the game grindy? because i enjoy playing with a tank no matter the tiers no matter how much time it take to full rep it, and also because i am not in a hurry to reach the latest tier... i play more 1 to 7 than 8 to 9, yes i want to unlock all of them, but i do not care about the time it will take

 

[Flogger23m]

Yes, it is a grindy game, but so is every other MMO. I understand your pain though.

I think it will be very much worth the grind to get to the BMP-2 and T-72. I advanced the Russian tanks rather late into the game when I had mastered most of the Wolfli tree already, but the BMP line was my second line of unlocks. The BMP-1 and BMP-1P were once living hell. There used to be a mechanic that prevented one-shot-kills against PVE bots, meaning that if an enemy had only 340 health and the BMP-1 did 350 average HEAT alpha damage, then the enemy would be left with about 20 health. The BMP-1 and 1P induce a lot of frustration because they are Tier 4 vehicles; when grinding Tier 4, it is especially hard since you do not have access to Hard difficulty PvE, which grants more rewards and is a lot more interesting compared to Medium where everyone is whoring for what little damage they can get out of those low health enemies.

Contrary to popular belief, the worst and grindiest vehicles are not always from tiers 7, 8 and 9. Throughout the trees you will find that some vehicles just suck, have worthless upgrades or not a lot of upgrades at all, have low alpha damage or low damage per minute, don't have access to higher rewards, etc.

The BMP-2 will be your first taste of autocannons in the game, and I think you will vastly enjoy it over the 1P. Virtually every vehicle armed with single or twin 30mm 2A42/2A72s is wonderfully fun to play; on the flip side, all three of the 73mm Grom-armed BMP variants are complete shit. I know that @GreiverBlade is going to disagree with me on this one as he loves the BMD-2 over the BMP-2 and thinks that the BMP-1s are fun, but I think you will soon find that the BMP-2 is a very hard-hitting and enjoyable vehicle.

Also, @GreiverBlade it's a completely different experience when you're replaying by rebuying low tier vehicles. I'm sure I could go back to the 1P after the abolition of 1-hit-kill protection and all the buffs they've made to it over the past few months and "enjoy" it, but when all I had was a M60A3 and BMP-1P, it was anything but "ok" to play. I hated the BMP-1P, ERC and BMD-1 because they all were just a stepping stone to my now-owned BMP-3M, Cent 120 and Ramka/Warrior yet they stood out in their respective lines as very slow to progress through.

As for "basic", all I can say is that high tier PvP and PvE is a different world from mid and low tier battles. At low tiers, there is virtually no such thing as "armor", every and any vehicle can be penetrated easily with your bog standard non-autocannon APDS/APBC or HEAT rounds from just about any angle. At high tiers, you are not facing off against a M60 in your T-64, rather, something like an AI Leo 2A5/2A6 in your T-90. You will need to know the weakspots on every tank by heart, and artillery will no longer be something to be trifled with.

Yeah I am looking forward to the BMP-2. But I really want a BMP-3 for the 100mm, autocannon and missile. But that is so far off. T-72 is my next MBT. What is a better later tier vehicle? I am essentially locked in to the Russian vehicles now if I am not mistaken. Or can I jump to the British if I want? I know their line of MBTs starts alongside later tier Russian. Sadly the Bradley is in the BMD route.

My main problem is the T-64 is essentially a cardboard box firing fire crackers at an XM1 or anything tier 5-6. AFPDS, HEAT, doesn't seem to penetrate unless I hit the tracks which means getting close in most instances. On the other hand they can do massive damage from the front or turret.

 

[GreiverBlade]

@Flogger23m
nearly all T-series tank are cardboard box but with tremendous firepower for their tier, brits are more resilient but damage wise are middle-low at start.

for the HEAT always aim bottom side or back of the tank (turret or chassis) and sometime if you are a careful aim type : driver's hatch, i can get full HEAT/APFSDS dmg on nearly any MBT full front lately.
more tanky line is the American MBT (kinda) and brits indeed (but slow and a little sluggish ) for AFV like the BMP-2 BMD-2 tanking is their speed and maneuverability (you should see me in a Wiesel 1 or a CRAB ... if i get a hit, i am mostly done for it )

for switching line, if the prerequisite for the west-eu line is fulfiled: you can switch line and start with the Chieftain (funny enough they are fast to grind ) and the Challenger 1 is quite sturdy (if we except the ease of catching fire under certain, obscures, circumstances, which never really occurred to me when i did play it ) and the C1 Ariete is quite fun once PSO upgraded and a good behavior (aka: never showing side or back )

ah and before i forget... TPU batt logo has changed
oh well since one of my favorite animal is the Ratel (Honey badger) i guess a Wolverine (incidentally Rosomak ... @Michalrutek ) is a good choice (color are TPU'esque also

 

[burebista]

p.s. why did i never found the game grindy? because i enjoy playing with a tank no matter the tiers no matter how much time it take to full rep it, and also because i am not in a hurry to reach last tier

QFT

What is a better later tier vehicle?

You can't go wrong with Russian MBT's man.
Also Chally is idiotproof in PvE.
AFV's are fun to play too.
I like MGS as TD.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Also Chally is idiotproof in PvE.

totally true ... you can go all full YOLO mode in that tank ... and get out nearly unscathed most of the time ...

AFV's are fun to play too.
I like MGS as TD.

also true ... i only diverge on the T-series ... they need way too much care to be alive at the end of the mission (tho the T-80 bounce a lot if the projectile hit full front )

 

[tabascosauz]

Yeah I am looking forward to the BMP-2. But I really want a BMP-3 for the 100mm, autocannon and missile. But that is so far off. T-72 is my next MBT. What is a better later tier vehicle? I am essentially locked in to the Russian vehicles now if I am not mistaken. Or can I jump to the British if I want? I know their line of MBTs starts alongside later tier Russian. Sadly the Bradley is in the BMD route.

My main problem is the T-64 is essentially a cardboard box firing fire crackers at an XM1 or anything tier 5-6. AFPDS, HEAT, doesn't seem to penetrate unless I hit the tracks which means getting close in most instances. On the other hand they can do massive damage from the front or turret.

Slow down, speed racer. The sheer improvement over the 1P that the BMP-2 will provide will make you forget about the BMP-3 in the short term. The BMP-2 is an ATGM spammer (it has 30 (or was it 20? That's how long I haven't played AW) Fagot or Konkurs missiles) with a heck of a lot of good 30mm APDS. The BMP-3 and 3M are different. Its unique weapons system dictates that it be used for DPM spam instead. While it has far less ATGMs (in return for being more effective, the Bastion if I'm not mistaken), its 30mm APDS is tremendously effective, and as soon as the clip is depleted, one can immediately swap to the 100mm HE-FRAG and deal a healthy amount of guaranteed damage while waiting for the autocannon to reload. That said, the BMP-3 and BMP-3M received a massive buff to their already borderline-OP autocannons, and OBVIOUSLY it had to come at a time when my BMP grind was essentially finished (of course, it was greiv who taught me the DPM spam technique ).

The British tanks are unlocked by fulfilling the prerequisite. It might be quite a good idea depending on what your playstyle is. I would do so as soon as I can, because a) the T-72 sucks shit, has ridiculously low penetration (fuck that alpha damage, who cares if you can't penetrate in the first place and are too inaccurate to even hit the right spot) and b) it's slow as hell and its turret rotates like the offspring of a sloth and a tortoise. The Soviet and Russian tanks have great armor, as long as we're not talking about the side hull / rear / lower plate. Every Russian and Chinese MBT save for the tier 10 T-14 has a weak lower glacis that is far weaker than the armor values on paper suggest. Although the T-80 is nimble and fast and has a smaller lower plate resulting in very effective armor protection, that is not true with the T-72s. The abysmal speeds of the vehicle, the turret traverse and hull traverse are not addressed until you reach tier 7, so if you are looking for an MBT that has armor deserving of the "MBT" title, I suggest you invest in the British tree. That said, the Chieftain's armor is just as bad as the T-72 and it is as sluggish as a turtle as well, but at least that isn't the legacy of the British tanks, and once you reach the Challenger, you'll have armor in abundance.

Your circumstances suggest that you play PvP more than PvE. Is that correct? First off, my opinion may be skewed as I exclusively play PvE with a touch of high tier PvP once in a while, but you may as well stop using HEAT munitions in every one of your vehicles and opt for a primarily AP loadout with a pinch of HE. If you are having as much trouble at tier 4 with the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of HEAT rounds, it's only going to get far worse as you move up the tiers, as beginning at tier 6, the penetration abilities are nullified against anything save for very light recon vehicles and lightly armored light tanks.

@GreiverBlade of course you're not in a hurry to get anywhere. You had half of the entire AW inventory at your fingertips when I was still stuck with 2 Tier 3s. I'm only trying to relate to flogger, because my own time as a complete beginner wasn't that long ago, and the frustration has not been forgotten. I'm not in a hurry to get to the highest tier now that I'm well established, but I couldn't say that in early January. He's having trouble penning enemies at Tier 4 because he doesn't yet know where to shoot. I was at that point once, and I was frustrated; would it be too far-fetched to think that I would desperately want to get to higher tiers?

 

[GreiverBlade]

@GreiverBlade of course you're not in a hurry to get anywhere. You had half of the entire AW inventory at your fingertips when I was still stuck with 2 Tier 3s. I'm only trying to relate to flogger, because my own time as a complete beginner wasn't that long ago, and the frustration has not been forgotten. I'm not in a hurry to get to the highest tier now that I'm well established, but I couldn't say that in early January. He's having trouble penning enemies at Tier 4 because he doesn't yet know where to shoot. I was at that point once, and I was frustrated; would it be too far-fetched to think that I would desperately want to get to higher tiers?

ohhhh i never laughed so hard at a paragraphe ... thanks tabasco you made my evening brighter (in a good meaning for the laugh, not for mockery ofc )

oh well ... typical MM


turned out not so bad

 

[Flogger23m]

I was going with the T- series for the missiles. Is it worth it to switch to the British tanks when I can instead? The T-64's turret spin rate and slow speed are probably my least favorite aspects, so if the T-72 is still sluggish I may reconsider. Too late to go down the Abrams path. I do have a Leopard 1 but I hardly used it. Are the later tier Leopard 2s worthy?

 

[burebista]

LeoA5 and A6 are fine in PvE. Others not so fine. At least for me. I know Greiver will poke me for this.
Indeed Rusians MBT's are all about alpha and somehow meh armor but T-90MS is my favorite MBT.

 

[GreiverBlade]

technically the T-72 was fine (for me ) on the ATGM note ... well ATGM have a slower reload than normal shells, it's not a 100% useful ammo, altho the Leo since the Leo.2 have the LAHAT ATGM (1064mm penetration) a kind of a monster HEAT tandem ATGM but the Leo line is more PVE than PVP, PVP even if i will not do some ... i would use T-series with APFSDS majorly and some HEAT aside (full ATGM's since 2nd pool ), and Leo well before Leo 2 : mezzo mezzo feeling (even if i love my Leo 1 or my OF-40 ICE ), brits tanks as i said are pve beast, oh and remember T9 token can be used to unlock any T9 in the dealer access, I.E.: grinding the chally line and getting the T-90MS (just like i betrayed myself and grinded the Leo line and got the M1A3 ... while tabasco did the opposite )

T-90MS is my favorite MBT.

meh choice *poke*

i did wrote that post at the same time you wrote that one


oh well, i had to sell my Draco (for now ) @burebista we are monday too bad i didn't had just enough for the enhanced cooling system, altho 22% upgraded right from the start



i have the time for a quick testdrive before going for some food ...

also ... Sphinx ATGM : MLP, seriously ? My Little Pony? do they have a rainbow smoke trail? do they burst into a huuuuge splash of hearts, stars, and gold'n silver glitter? we shall see once i get a map i like ... (so far ... @tabascosauz i like the Merkava ... sturdy ... and second in dpm only to the T-80 )

 

[Flogger23m]

What is the best way to get vehicle reputation? Some matches I get 3-4K, others only 1K. Regardless of kills or win/loss. I can get 12 kills in a PvE match and only get 1.3K reputation, and then in some matches get nearly 4K with only 4 kills and few hits.