NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Specifications Released

[the54thvoid]

Hmm......

No point selling my card yet. I need to see the big chip. I know if I upgrade (or side grade) to 1080, I'll want to upgrade again to the big chip Pascal.

 

[rruff]

10 GHz VRAM sounds like a lot, but some of us run cards with 8 GHz VRAM and I haven't even tried pushing it further. Sure 2 GHz extra is nice, but doesn't sound quite as much as they are making hype around it. Especially since it's stuck on 256bit bus. One would expect at least 384bit with compression to really allow GPU to breathe.

If it doesn't need faster vram, then why would it need a 384bit memory bus? For the same bandwidth isn't fast vram better than a bigger bus?

 

[MxPhenom 216]

10 GHz VRAM sounds like a lot, but some of us run cards with 8 GHz VRAM and I haven't even tried pushing it further. Sure 2 GHz extra is nice, but doesn't sound quite as much as they are making hype around it. Especially since it's stuck on 256bit bus. One would expect at least 384bit with compression to really allow GPU to breathe. It's interesting how NVIDIA didn't opt for HBM for their high end and they'll leave it for the enthusiast cards only (Titan). Gotta wait for AMD's Polaris to see what's what and if my curiosity will be stronger than the actual need to get a new card...

It would technically be 512 bit. or 384 bit for 6gb.

Also in theory this isnt their high end. its GP104. The next Titan and what could be GTX1080Ti will be GP100 (big pascal) which should be HBM2. The Quadro cards will, which is what the Titan will be based on as always.

 

[medi01]

ignore actual facts

Such as that changing fab processes is business as usual.

You realize that 9710 is the number one overclocked score on 3dmark? Heck it was probably done under LN2.

I see higher numbers than that, but that's not the point though. Isn't non OC-ed 980Ti scoring 8000+? If so, under 9k score of 1080 is rather lacking.

 

[Fluffmeister]

I like how overclocked GTX 980 Ti scores are now disappointing.

People are using those two non-confirmed leaks as Bible, patience young ones.

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

My monthly dividends won't be able to afford 3 of these.

 

[RejZoR]

I like how overclocked GTX 980 Ti scores are now disappointing.

People are using those two non-confirmed leaks as Bible, patience young ones.

Scores might be low, but I've just finished The Vanishing of Ethan Carter on vanilla GTX 980 and I honestly haven't seen a better looking game. No Crysis, CoD, Battlefield or whatever looked better than this. I'm surprised why The Elder Scrolls aren't running on this thing because their engine looks like crap vs Unreal in Ethan Carter. It looks million times better than Skyrim and yet it also ran butter smooth. And till games can look so majestic and run with butter smooth framerate, I frankly don't give a fart about benchmark scores. I'm gonna try it for lolz at 4K using DSR, but considering I was running it with 4x MSAA, I think I could get off with 4K and 2x MSAA. Meaning GTX 980Ti would have no problems with that.

I want to experience new stuff so I'll be having really hard time resisting the upgrade because GTX 980 still works so well for me. But would be sweet to have GTX 1080 or something latest from AMD...

 

[jabbadap]

On top of everything else, Nvidia most likely knows that they can't push prices too far either, as then their products will simply not sell. Also keep in mind that cards like the GTX 780 launched at $649.99 and the GTX 770 and $399.99 and these cards are all of a sudden looking a lot less expensive, unless you go for the founders edition.

Yes that is correct: (40nm)gtx470 and gtx570 mrsp $349, (28nm)gtx670 and gtx770 mrsp $399 oddball (28nm still)gtx970 mrsp $329 and now (16nm)gtx1070 mrsp $379. People tend to be spoiled when they get something cheaper than they used to. Maybe volta gtx XX70 will be still 16nmFF+ with mature manufacturing process and lower prices but until then, while $379 is tad high, it's still very much in price range of nvidia's X70 product slot.

 

[RealNeil]

I like how overclocked GTX 980 Ti scores are now disappointing

There's nothing disappointing about my GTX-980 pair in SLI. ~or~ my GTX-980Ti pair in SLI. I feel like I can wait until the cows come home before I upgrade again.

 

[HumanSmoke]

Well, not long to wait by the sounds of it. Scuttlebutt says NDA lifts and reviews are set to go live on the 17th May. Reviewers already have the cards in hand. Hilbert at G3D has already broken out the camera.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Well, not long to wait by the sounds of it. Scuttlebutt says NDA lifts and reviews are set to go live on the 17th May. Reviewers already have the cards in hand. Hilbert at G3D has already broken out the camera.

Impossible!

AMD showed working silicon first so clearly Nvidia are way behind, also GDDR5X is non-existent so those Hilbert pics are clearly fake!

 

[HumanSmoke]

Impossible!

AMD showed working silicon first so clearly Nvidia are way behind, also GDDR5X is non-existent so those Hilbert pics are clearly fake!

Global conspiracy confirmed! Who knew that a small tech company with less than 5% of the market cap of Microsoft held so much influence in the world?

On a conspiracy/FUD debunking note...

He mention that the Founders Editions were the ones with O/C headroom. Maybe the regular ones will be locked in some way to give them added value.

...the Founders Edition's apparently just the polygonal shroud treatment:

Every single instance of “Founder's Edition” can be replaced with the word “Reference,” using previous-gen nomenclature. There is not one difference in its market positioning. They are synonymous. NVidia has replaced its “Reference” name with “Founder's Edition.”....The “Founder's Edition” is not specially binned....The “Founder's Edition” is not pre-overclocked.....

So, board vendor custom designs start at $599, and the stock clocked reference/Founders Edition is $699 for those wanting the blower/shroud. For the extra hundred, there should be a lot more people holding out for a MSI OC Gaming, Asus Strix, Giga Windforce, or EVGA ACX with higher clocks I would imagine.

 

[Xzibit]

...the Founders Edition's apparently just the polygonal shroud treatment:

So, board vendor custom designs start at $599, and the stock clocked reference/Founders Edition is $699 for those wanting the blower/shroud. For the extra hundred, there should be a lot more people holding out for a MSI OC Gaming, Asus Strix, Giga Windforce, or EVGA ACX with higher clocks I would imagine.

Doesn't sound right.

That's asking more then triple of what 980 AIBs at $30 over reference. Why would one buy it other then aesthetic or absolutely needs a blower.

The G1 cooler didn't even cost $100 extra.

It also gives AIBs the excuse to charge closer to $699 or more with their coolers performance being better then FEs. Hopefully they don't.

 

[HumanSmoke]

Doesn't sound right.
That's asking more then triple of what 980 AIBs at $30 over reference. Why would one buy it other then aesthetic or absolutely needs a blower.

Probably the vapor chamber NVTTM has proven popular and Nvidia isn't keen on absorbing the extra production cost it requires when companies like MSI and Palit/Gainward/Galax get away with charging the same price for cheap plastic imitations.

 

[xenocide]

Scores might be low, but I've just finished The Vanishing of Ethan Carter on vanilla GTX 980 and I honestly haven't seen a better looking game. No Crysis, CoD, Battlefield or whatever looked better than this.

That's because the game is basically a giant painting. It looks amazing when you just stand there and admire it, but it's not a great example of graphical prowess. The use of Photogramming or whatever the nonsense term is, is what makes it look so amazing. But it's just insanely detailed textures on heavily customized surfaces. They worked very hard to get the game looking exactly how they want it, but it doesn't do a lot of impressive rendering, and it's not very dynamic unlike Battlefield 4/Battlefront which look amazing no matter how chaotic things get--and also require more powerful hardware. Vanishing is a really bad example for that reason--it's essentially an amusement park that you wander through that is made to look as nice as possible without a lot of variation technologically.

 

[the54thvoid]

Doesn't sound right.

That's asking more then triple of what 980 AIBs at $30 over reference. Why would one buy it other then aesthetic or absolutely needs a blower.

The G1 cooler didn't even cost $100 extra.

It also gives AIBs the excuse to charge closer to $699 or more with their coolers performance being better then FEs. Hopefully they don't.

It doesn't sound logical but Nvidia rarely are. The reference design 980ti was hard to come by but in the UK it sold at about £550 which was more than some other customs (that were faster and quieter).
Unless of course the shroud is actually awesome, which would suck because it's ugly.

 

[Xzibit]

It doesn't sound logical but Nvidia rarely are. The reference design 980ti was hard to come by but in the UK it sold at about £550 which was more than some other customs (that were faster and quieter).
Unless of course the shroud is actually awesome, which would suck because it's ugly.

It just weird...

If FEs = Reference. I can see reviewers gripe with the price and a bit of havoc with perf/price charts until AIBs show up and for how much is the question.

Essentially until AIBs reveal their pricing its a $449 and $699 reference release.

 

[R-T-B]

Such as that changing fab processes is business as usual.

Hasn't been lately.

I see higher numbers than that, but that's not the point though. Isn't non OC-ed 980Ti scoring 8000+? If so, under 9k score of 1080 is rather lacking.

I don't see any higher numbers on your search.

 

[the54thvoid]

It just weird...

If FEs = Reference. I can see reviewers gripe with the price and a bit of havoc with perf/price charts until AIBs show up and for how much is the question.

Essentially until AIBs reveal their pricing its a $449 and $699 reference release.

Having read a bit more its just over the top Nvidia marketing. I appreciate they spend time making a good, metal based cooler, not something plastic but they didn't need to call it anything.
The FE tag is more than weird, I'd call it a little misleading making the jump from the term 'reference'.
Anyway, I need to stop agreeing with you, I'm meant to argue with you about Nvidia stuff.

 

[RCoon]

Hmm......

No point selling my card yet. I need to see the big chip. I know if I upgrade (or side grade) to 1080, I'll want to upgrade again to the big chip Pascal.

This is my issue. I need to jump onto something that can play 4K acceptably on a single GPU. 1080ti needs to arrive sooner.

Then I have to wait for a full cover WB...

 

[petedread]

So we won't see $600 1080's at launch, only $700 (UK will pay more because UK) AIB partners could possibly release a $600 later. Founders addition simply means reference card. This was not immediately clear to me.

Metal shroud bumps up price, board partners could make cheaper cards using plastic shroud.

If it was not for comments here on TPU I would pre order one but I think I will wait for reviews. As for the 180TI, I won't wait, I will just buy one when they arrive. And hopefully run a 980ti 1080 and 1080TI all together lol. Hopefully this will be possible with DX12 in 2017.

 

[petedread]

This is my issue. I need to jump onto something that can play 4K acceptably on a single GPU. 1080ti needs to arrive sooner.

Then I have to wait for a full cover WB...

So not expecting 1080 to do 4k at max settings? Big let down, the marketing certainly fooled me

 

[HumanSmoke]

This is my issue. I need to jump onto something that can play 4K acceptably on a single GPU. 1080ti needs to arrive sooner.

Well, start praying that Globalfoundries can execute and AMD get Vega out in a timely fashion - because like the 980 Ti, there is absolutely no incentive for Nvidia to push out a GP102/GP100 consumer card until they're forced to.

It doesn't sound logical but Nvidia rarely are. The reference design 980ti was hard to come by but in the UK it sold at about £550 which was more than some other customs (that were faster and quieter).

Yet consumers bought the reference NVTTM in droves - including a run on NVTTM-equipped GTX 970's when they arrived....so who is less logical? Nvidia for providing the option, and knowing that consumers would buy them (Best Buy seemed to be doing a roaring trade when they started stocking them)- or consumers who plunked down the cash for them, often in preference to higher clocked and better cooled custom cards?

 

[Dru]

• Good thing I sold my titan x as soon as I heard the news. Checked out ebay and titan x are going for as low as $399 starting bid but no one are bidding yet I guess ppl are now aware of the GTX 1080 and 1070 lol

 

[the54thvoid]

Yet consumers bought the reference NVTTM in droves - including a run on NVTTM-equipped GTX 970's when they arrived....so who is less logical? Nvidia for providing the option, and knowing that consumers would buy them (Best Buy seemed to be doing a roaring trade when they started stocking them)- or consumers who plunked down the cash for them, often in preference to higher clocked and better cooled custom cards?

Oh, I don't blame Nvidia for their business plan, it is very logical. I do think using a swanky term for their own cooler is 'manipulative' in a small way though.
However if reviews come out and it's brilliant, then fair enough. But still, 'Founders Edition' implies a shit tonne more than reference, even if reference is great.