Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

[HTC]

Only 4166 to go ... lol ...

 

[Mussels]

Thanks for taking the time to post something intelligent, I also agree that alot of this is overblown. Its not like OSX hasn't done this since forever. Like everything else though it will pass and the internet will find something else to hate. I am a little disappointing that TPU was subject to gizmodo and toms level comments however.

I remember when XP came out. Man you should have seen the but hurt. People HATED the what was it? "Tooth paste buttons"

10 years later they cry themselves to sleep because its being taken out back. History comes full circle I guess.

everyone hates every version of windows when its new.

also, toothpaste buttons? what the flying fook

 

[Octopuss]

I liked/loved Windows 7 ever since I installed one of the pre-release leaked builds
I hated every version of Windows 8/8.1/10 I tried.

 

[Ahhzz]

everyone hates every version of windows when its new.

also, toothpaste buttons? what the flying fook

not true. Liked XP, loved 7, hated Vista, ME, 8. 10 would be ok without all the spying, adn the auto-driver forcing, and the auto-update forcing.... hmm... it looks ok, anyway

 

[qubit]

Oh if only, lol.

I'm actually nerdy enough to try it, too... Who's with me?!

 

[Drone]

Oh if only, lol.

I'm actually nerdy enough to try it, too... Who's with me?!

Haha, it's possible to split it and make floppy bootable. How much would 4167 floppies cost?

 

[qubit]

Haha, it's possible to split it and make floppy bootable. How much would 4167 floppies cost?

I'd really like to see it split like that. I have a feeling that Microsoft would have to do it, though.

And as to the cost? Well, since floppies are no longer on general sale I'd say quite a lot of money since the price will inevitably increase significantly.

In fact, you'd have to buy more floppies to replace the ones with errors on (there will be loads, plus you'll need a separate image for each floppy replaced) and probably an extra floppy drive or two as they might just wear out before the install is finished.

Damn, I so wanna do this.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

Windows 8 & 8.1 beta builds was a rather decent testing, despite the lack of support when it came out.

 

[Toothless]

Am i the only one who likes the tile start menu in 8.1? I keep mine clean.

 

[Drone]

MS simplifies updates for Windows 7 and 8.1

https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com...17/simplifying-updates-for-windows-7-and-8-1/

Updates have historically been published on the Microsoft Download Center and the Microsoft Update Catalog. Security Bulletins have linked directly to update packages on the Microsoft Download Center. To simplify this, within the next few months Windows updates will no longer be available from the Microsoft Download Center. Security bulletins will continue to link directly to the updates, but will point to the packages on the Microsoft Update Catalog instead of the Microsoft Download Center. Customers that use tools linking to the Microsoft Download Center should follow the links provided in the Security Bulletins or search directly on the Microsoft Update Catalog.

For those who aren’t familiar with the Microsoft Update Catalog website, note that it still requires using Internet Explorer at this point because of an ActiveX control used. Later this summer, we will be updating the site to eliminate the ActiveX control in order to support other browsers.

As always, all updates will still be available via WSUS, SCCM, and Windows Update – this change is only for manual downloads.

 

[Drone]

For W7 SP1 lovers:

Convenience Rollup for Windows 7 SP1

The convenience rollup package acts like SP2 for Windows 7 and includes all security patches and almost all the non-security updates for operating system core components released after Windows 7 SP1. This package is cumulative meaning once you install it you won't have to install updates released up to May 2016.

Download:

KB3125574 x64

KB3125574 x86

 

[HTC]

For W7 SP1 lovers:

Convenience Rollup for Windows 7 SP1

The convenience rollup package acts like SP2 for Windows 7 and includes all security patches and almost all the non-security updates for operating system core components released after Windows 7 SP1. This package is cumulative meaning once you install it you won't have to install updates released up to May 2016.

Download:

KB3125574 x64

KB3125574 x86

Question: can we take out some of the more "telemetric" updates after we install this convenience thing? Or don't those come with it?

 

[rtwjunkie]

Question: can we take out some of the more "telemetric" updates after we install this convenience thing? Or don't those come with it?

Good question! Also, it would be good to know if it included any of the various updates which install GWX.

 

[HTC]

Good question! Also, it would be good to know if it included any of the various updates which install GWX.

For example.

Sure: it may be convenient but, if it adds allot of hassle to get rid of stuff like that ... probably not a good thing.

 

[eidairaman1]

hey @rtwjunkie, go to askwoody.com and there's alot of info on the updates. Otherwise look up their KB article, some state upgrade compatibility checks etc. I heard MS might be fixing WUD for W7, AFAIK i recently updated 3 days ago, seems to be moving quicker on updates.

 

[Mussels]

this rollup update is goddamn neccesary

 

[Caring1]

Despite constantly clicking NO on those annoying GWX pop ups, my son's computer started the forced "upgrade" to W10 last night and got stuck on 71% for at least 5 hours.
This morning he turned it off because he was sick of waiting and it reverted back to 7 all by itself.
Hopefully M.S. learns something from this and listens to what the customer wants, not what they think is best for us.

 

[Octopuss]

Question: can we take out some of the more "telemetric" updates after we install this convenience thing? Or don't those come with it?

I wouldn't dig into the package. That would be pain in the arse.
In my opinion, it's best to simple uninstall the W10 related junk afterwards.
Just create a .bat or .cmd file and paste this in it:

for %%A in (2952664 2977759 2990214 3021917 3035583 3068708 3074677 3075249 3080149 3081437 3081454 3081954 3123862) do (
echo Uninstalling KB%%A...
wusa.exe /kb:%%A /uninstall /quiet /norestart)

Depending on your paranoia level, you can add more KB numbers according to this supposedly updated list.

edit:
You can take it one level up and disable those updates from appearing again.
Create a .vbs file and paste this in:

Dim hideupdates(7)

hideupdates(0) = "KB2952664"
hideupdates(1) = "KB2977759"
hideupdates(2) = "KB3021917"
hideupdates(3) = "KB3035583"
hideupdates(4) = "KB3068708"
hideupdates(5) = "KB3075249"
hideupdates(6) = "KB3080149"

set updateSession = createObject("Microsoft.Update.Session")
set updateSearcher = updateSession.CreateupdateSearcher()

Set searchResult = updateSearcher.Search("IsInstalled=0 and Type='Software'")

For i = 0 To searchResult.Updates.Count-1
set update = searchResult.Updates.Item(i)
For j = LBound(hideupdates) To UBound(hideupdates)
'MsgBox hideupdates(j)
if instr(1, update.Title, hideupdates(j), vbTextCompare) = 0 then
  'Wscript.echo "No match found for " & hideupdates(j)
else
Wscript.echo "Hiding updates..." & hideupdates(j)
update.IsHidden = True
end if
Next
Next

disclaimer: I have no idea WTF the second thing does, I just copied it from somewhere

 

[GreiverBlade]

well turned out i got win 10 on both of my rigs ...

windows history (not counting 3.1/95/98/98SE )
good:
XP=>7=>10 (and a small exception for 8.1 which was a better than 8 but not totally at my taste)

and the one i did regret installing
ME=>Vista=>8 (altho win 8 i only tested it in CP )

O&O ShutUp 10 and Classic Shell mad me like Win10

Question: can we take out some of the more "telemetric" updates after we install this convenience thing? Or don't those come with it?

O&O ShutUP 10 does it


oh ... wait for Win7 ? aherm ... my apologies i did crossread

 

[Drone]

Question: can we take out some of the more "telemetric" updates after we install this convenience thing? Or don't those come with it?

Good question! Also, it would be good to know if it included any of the various updates which install GWX.

I don't know if this rollup includes telemetry stuff, have no real/virtual W7 machine atm. As for GWX, Microsoft won't bug you to upgrade to Windows 10 after July 29th.

 

[Ahhzz]

......As for GWX, Microsoft won't bug you to upgrade to Windows 10 after July 29th.

aaaaaahahahahahahhahahahahahahahha

 

[AsRock]

I'd really like to see it split like that. I have a feeling that Microsoft would have to do it, though.

And as to the cost? Well, since floppies are no longer on general sale I'd say quite a lot of money since the price will inevitably increase significantly.

In fact, you'd have to buy more floppies to replace the ones with errors on (there will be loads, plus you'll need a separate image for each floppy replaced) and probably an extra floppy drive or two as they might just wear out before the install is finished.

Damn, I so wanna do this.

You what ?, you can get them still, just kinda expensive, you can get USB drives for them too which i have one of those too lol.

 

[qubit]

You what ?, you can get them still, just kinda expensive, you can get USB drives for them too which i have one of those too lol.

While they can be bought if you know where to look, they don't have the wide availability they used to since they're obsolete. That's what I'm saying by "general availability".

 

[AsRock]

Amazon lol, plenty of them.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=floppy+disks

 

[cornemuse]

Checked "* Other" Not W7 ? W8, but rather XP refusenik!
I am still getting used to W7 on my laptop, All my desktops are XPP 32 & 64.
I can handle 7, but 8-10-etc, (especially 10) I do not like. Yeah, new, different, but not necessarily better, imho.
Have several flavors of ubuntu, but too much win stuff I cant make run on it, & no linux replacements.

I happen to be 69 yrs -> young. You'll find out, as I have, the older one gets, the harder it is to accept change.
(edit: should prolly point out I am a retired heavy equipment operator, bulldozers & stuff, never really needed computers, more a hobby for me, , , )
First computer was a Timex Sinclair 1000, still have it, somewheres. Got it early 1980's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Sinclair_1000

Was pretty neat for the day.

-c-