Now that W10 is out, are you a W7 / W8 refusenik?

[AsRock]

OOh, better to

I am sure every thing will be just fine .

 

[rtwjunkie]

Yep! Better than fine! Everything is up and running, and feels like W8.1 on steroids (everything is faster). Most of my programs have been installed and i have the desktop set how i want (thanks to Start 10).

All complete except some games. No longer a refusenik.

 

[Frick]

So, their event is underway and it really deserves a new thread but this is definitely a high light:

http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html?m=1

Yes, run bash in Windows, natively. Get your grep on, etc.

Also with the Anniversary update they'll remove forced Vsync from the store games and add Gfreesync support. Might be more.

Oh yes and it's supposedly trivial to convert games to UWP and that is coming to Xbox. In the event they added AoE 2 that way. And you can install apps from outside the store, like a good old god fearing .exe.

 

[Drone]

https://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2016/03/30/run-bash-on-ubuntu-on-windows

Bash on Windows is a good news for devs, average joes probably won't give a damn

 

[Ahhzz]

I've had windows updates disabled for a LONG time. Ran the GWX control panel today, along with several other tools (Aegis, Never10, SpybotAntiBeacon), and discovered that M$ had still managed to figure out a way to download over 4Gb to a win10 update folder....

 

[swirl09]

Still on Win7

Tbh, I did think Id be on 10 by now. It felt like they were rushing it out to make the most of the back to school market, so I figured Id let it cook for the rest of the year and upgrade in the new year. But honestly, they've been so sly, and the constant pestering to upgrade has annoyed me! I just keep putting it off. Seriously the cheek of one of their attempts, a window came up with 2 options, one was a straight forward 'YES', the other was something along the lines of later, which I took as a "not right now(go away)" rather than a "later-TODAY". Clicked the later option and a download began! I aborted....

Not that it matters much now, Ill be building a broadwell-E soon enough and might as well go with a fresh W10 at that point.

 

[Frick]

I've been playing around with Cortana and .... make her interact with Netflix and spotify and I'm sold. Make her able to understand "go to youtube.com and play a Metallica playlist". If they make it so I can browse the web using her, I never have to leavy my couch again! I can just lay there with my hands behind my head, being fed by tubes. But seriously, it will be excellent.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I've been playing around with Cortana and .... make her interact with Netflix and spotify and I'm sold. Make her able to understand "go to youtube.com and play a Metallica playlist". If they make it so I can browse the web using her, I never have to leavy my couch again! I can just lay there with my hands behind my head, being fed by tubes. But seriously, it will be excellent.

That is perfect! It sounds like you need the Toilet-Chair from the movie Idiocracy!

EDIT: I fear however, that your path to Nirvana, would leave you looking like Mr. House of FNV:

 

[Frick]

Indeed! It gets messy pretty fast.

On a serious note though, with some improvements making voice control a core concept of Windows is, I think, pretty awesome. I have a sister with a trashed spine sho could really benefit from it. In a demo, I think, a guy essentially tells her to "send Dave that file" and she did, and that is awesome in many ways. The problem is that, obviously, for us to be Tony Stark all that you do has to be recorded and saved somewhere so she has something to reference. In a closed systems with controlles ins and outs that might not be a problem, but you HAVE to interact with someone/something on the outside. I really have no problems with that if she does indeed become a fully fledged voice controlled semi intelligent digital assistant, baked into the OS. Right now the mic on my laptop is always on. I shall think about it and maybe rant about it.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Indeed! It gets messy pretty fast.

On a serious note though, with some improvements making voice control a core concept of Windows is, I think, pretty awesome. I have a sister with a trashed spine sho could really benefit from it. In a demo, I think, a guy essentially tells her to "send Dave that file" and she did, and that is awesome in many ways. The problem is that, obviously, for us to be Tony Stark all that you do has to be recorded and saved somewhere so she has something to reference. In a closed systems with controlles ins and outs that might not be a problem, but you HAVE to interact with someone/something on the outside. I really have no problems with that if she does indeed become a fully fledged voice controlled semi intelligent digital assistant, baked into the OS. Right now the mic on my laptop is always on. I shall think about it and maybe rant about it.

That does sound very cool actually.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I've had her on my phone for the last 3 years, and she really can take care of most basic functions that you would like to do.

The novelty for me wore off quickly, but she is fairly prepared for almost anything that the device you are using is capable of.

I think on a computer in a home, given enough time, as you said, she could be quite a useful assistant for someone like your sister.

 

[dorsetknob]

New Road map reviled ( no not a spelling mistake ) for Win 10
MICROSOFT HAS REVEALED its Windows 10 Roadmap, outlining features aimed at business users that are currently in development, or almost ready to implement on the pushy operating system.

The Windows 10 Roadmap site went live over the weekend, according to veteran Microsoft watcher Mary Jo Foley writing on the All About Microsoft blog.

The site provides a valuable snapshot of features recently made available, along with those in public preview or still under development and testing, and even those that have been dropped from Windows 10.

A glance at the list shows that multifactor authentication for apps and websites is currently in Public Preview for Windows 10, along with the Edge Extensions feature that lets users download add-ons for the Edge browser.

Also in public preview is one of Microsoft's headline features for corporate users of Windows 10. Enterprise Data Protection is intended to give organisations greater control over data through file-level encryption, and leak prevention through policies that govern the applications that can be used to access corporate data, for example.

Currently still in development is the Windows Defender Advanced Threat Protection service that Microsoft detailed last month. This is a combination of endpoint and cloud-based tools intended to provide a post-breach layer of protection to the Windows 10 security stack.

Also listed as still under development are Start menu updates, a way to unlock a PC with a Windows or Android smartphone, and a bunch of features to enhance the usability of Windows 10, including improvements to the Microsoft Passport two-factor authentication system that can use biometrics.

Microsoft is working on updates to the Continuum feature that adapts the user experience to the type of peripherals connected, such as enabling a Continuum-compatible phone to display via a monitor connected to a Windows 10 PC.

Also under development is a 'Remote Display Experience' that will allow users to control Windows 10 IoT Core applications from any Windows 10 desktop PC, tablet, or phone, while the Windows 10 IoT Core device will be able to get sensor readings from any connected Windows 10 device.

Microsoft warned that the roadmap page is for "informational purposes only" and may change at any time without notice. µ

"" New back door for Hackers"" ????
Source http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...dows-10-roadmap-reveals-upcoming-biz-features

 

[BlackSun59]

I'll stick with 7 as long as my present still-working-well hardware will support it. I dislike no Classic GUI, 10's Fisher-Price graphics, not being able to change system fonts without registry hacks, crippled printer drivers, forced updates, keylogging and spying, and a few other things I can't recall.
Someone else in my family just got a Chuwi Win10 tablet. Some things work the same as 7, but it sure looks ugly to me.

 

[OneMoar]

meh I have no had one single issue with windows 10 as for the shell..
if it really bothers you startisback++ is the way to go well worth the 3 bucks

 

[AsRock]

I'll stick with 7 as long as my present still-working-well hardware will support it. I dislike no Classic GUI, 10's Fisher-Price graphics, not being able to change system fonts without registry hacks, crippled printer drivers, forced updates, keylogging and spying, and a few other things I can't recall.
Someone else in my family just got a Chuwi Win10 tablet. Some things work the same as 7, but it sure looks ugly to me.

Better stop browsing the web then as they keylog all the time.

 

[OneMoar]

contrary to what the internet would have you believe windows 10 is not spying on you or anybody else anyone that believes that is windows is magically spying on you anymore then google/apple already does is a moron
google and apples data collection make Microsoft look like rank-amateur at least microsoft has the decency to say hey we are gonna send this so we can better serve you add and such

 

[Ahhzz]

contrary to what the internet would have you believe windows 10 is not spying on you or anybody else ......

nah, you're right man!

"
But in order to illustrate just how popular Windows 10 has become, Microsoft felt the need to share some milestones:

• People have spent over 11 billion hours on Windows 10 in December alone.
• Over 44.5 billion minutes spent in Microsoft Edge across Windows 10 devices in just the last month.
• Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
• Around 30% more Bing search queries per Windows 10 device vs. prior versions of Windows.
• Over 82 billion photos viewed within the Windows 10 Photo app.
• Gaming continues to grow on Windows 10 – in 2015, gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games on Windows 10.
• Gamers have streamed more than 6.6 million hours of Xbox One games to Windows 10 PCs.

 

[BlackSun59]

contrary to what the internet would have you believe windows 10 is not spying on you or anybody else anyone that believes that is windows is magically spying on you anymore then google/apple already does is a moron
google and apples data collection make Microsoft look like rank-amateur at least microsoft has the decency to say hey we are gonna send this so we can better serve you add and such

LOLOL
If you want to consider me a moron because of what I've read and researched starting even before Win10 went beta, you go right ahead. I'll just rely on my over 35 years of experience dealing with computers, OSes, reading and research. Thanks for playing.

 

[dorsetknob]

Blind man wearing sunglass'es says "no one is spying on me , if they were i would see them"

 

[jboydgolfer]

i actually installed 10 on one of my PC's, and whenever the damned thing wakes up from sleep, it shows the desktop, and just hangs for like 10-20 seconds. I can see everything, but i cant click anything, or open anything, Really annoying.anyone encounter this, or know of a solution?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

It's probably starting all of the sleeping threads. There might be one that is causing explorer.exe to hang.

 

[OneMoar]

either that or something chewing up a bunch of i/o

@BlackSun59 the post was not directly at solely you, tho you are still wrong
https://blog.robseder.com/2015/08/16/whats-the-real-deal-with-windows-10-and-privacy/
to quote: levar burton hey don't take my my word for it: grab wire-shark and check it yourself

again Microsoft has nothing on google and apple
all this non-sense started when some Czech guy posted a bunch of hyperbole claims and people took it as the sworn truth ...because people are idiots

 

[R-T-B]

"" New back door for Hackers"" ????

I'd be more concerned about RDP.

 

[Caring1]

i actually installed 10 on one of my PC's, and whenever the damned thing wakes up from sleep, it shows the desktop, and just hangs for like 10-20 seconds. I can see everything, but i cant click anything, or open anything, Really annoying.anyone encounter this, or know of a solution?

Try disabling Intel Smart Connect in the BIOS.

 

[Flow]

either that or something chewing up a bunch of i/o

@BlackSun59 the post was not directly at solely you, tho you are still wrong
https://blog.robseder.com/2015/08/16/whats-the-real-deal-with-windows-10-and-privacy/
to quote: levar burton hey don't take my my word for it: grab wire-shark and check it yourself

again Microsoft has nothing on google and apple
all this non-sense started when some Czech guy posted a bunch of hyperbole claims and people took it as the sworn truth ...because people are idiots

Still, google and apple do this from day one ( Well, apple probably not from the actual day one they started) and ms only since a short while.
I suppose with the history windows versions have, people are quick to jump on the bandwagon. "

But anyway, I don't see much wrong or better in win10 compared to win 7. I still do like the new start menu, edge is not very pleasant to use, ms uploads the monthly patches to my pc no matter what setting I use.
There is much to like, and much to dislike.
I guess in a matter of time all will be forgotten and most will be on the win10 train, especially when dx12 games start to really take off.

As for charts showing user numbers, I tend to take those with a grain of salt, because when a product is succesfull, there is no need to produce such numbers to start with.