AMD Releases PCI-Express Power Draw Fix, We Tested, Confirmed, Works

TRWOV · Jul 10, 2016

Agiels said:
its factory OC 940/1250 havent touched since i have it, not worth it, it doesnt crash on any stress test, Firestrike, Unigine all of them, Asus Realbench, 3Dmark 11, CINEBENCH_R15, FurMark, with Win7 and driver 14.12 crash less but ofc run badly due to non optimized for new games, maybe my PSU its getting tired ? a CX600M i heard they are good but not got for stressing

940/1250 is very tame. I have my 7950 (basically the same GPU) running at 1150/1500 (sapphire Vapor-x) so I don't think is that. The PSU is fine too, not top grade but adequate.

I'd say it's a software issue. I would try a full Windows re-install (refresh if you have W8/W10) to start clean and see if that solves it.

xkm1948 · Jul 10, 2016

And now NV is shareing some of the PCI-E gate love as well, brought to you by no other than Tom's PCI-E Guide!

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/gtx1070-fe-pcie-gate.224024/

Covert_Death · Jul 10, 2016

Chaitanya said:
nice of Amd to fix the power draw management.

hha, yes, how nice of them to ship a bad device and then fix it, praise be to AMD!

xkm1948 · Jul 10, 2016

Covert_Death said:
hha, yes, how nice of them to ship a bad device and then fix it, praise be to AMD!

Shh, now you need to defend the 1070's PCI-E gate as well. Hurry!

Oh and did I forget the dual link DVI defect of 1070/1080? Or the VR defect of 1070/1080?

TheLaughingMan · Jul 10, 2016

Covert_Death said:
hha, yes, how nice of them to ship a bad device and then fix it, praise be to AMD!

Exactly. How dare AMD not anticipate review sites, who typically use the best of the best when testing, to use $30 motherboards and/or boards from like 4 years ago. Then implement a fix for their customers who may be using the same stuff. Its almost like they care about their customers or something. Next time they should be like Nvidia with their missing 512 MB of VRAM and just make excuses.

Tatty_Two · Jul 10, 2016

xkm1948 said:
Shh, now you need to defend the 1070's PCI-E gate as well. Hurry!

Oh and did I forget the dual link DVI defect of 1070/1080? Or the VR defect of 1070/1080?

Trolling much, you on a retainer? I see some more reply bans coming if it continues.

RejZoR · Jul 10, 2016

Covert_Death said:
hha, yes, how nice of them to ship a bad device and then fix it, praise be to AMD!

GTX 970 is a bad device with it's 3.5GB crap. RX480 was just configured badly. GTX 970 can't ever be fixed. RX480 was already fixed. Anything else?

HD64G · Jul 10, 2016

RejZoR said:
GTX 970 is a bad device with it's 3.5GB crap. RX480 was just configured badly. GTX 970 can't ever be fixed. RX480 was already fixed. Anything else?

No need to feed the trolls buddy :toast:

. They have their pain now with AMD easily fixing a problem they believed it could totally ruin RX480's sales. Every customer is happy with the fix except for green fanboys who want AMD dead to be able to pay twice than now for their beloved GPUs... :oops:

Fluffmeister · Jul 10, 2016

The superb sales of the GTX 970 has already answered all the haters.

Anyway, I think we all agree it's good to see AMD getting close to GM204's performance per watt, and fixing these problems which pop up with new card launches.

D007 · Jul 10, 2016

Kind of loling a bit here.. People keep screaming AMD fixed it!.. But they really didn't....
They gave you a driver update.. Which is totally normal and they can improve performance in "some games" while hurting it in others..
Truth is if you enable compatibility mode, you lose 3%..
The driver update is just a driver update.. All cards get them..
You lost 3% with the fix..
Ok.. Scream about the driver update now again, as if it is a valid response..lol..

That being said.. Did it ever really require a fix? I mean who's hardware could this possibly harm?
Just leave compatibility mode off I guess..

HD64G said:
No need to feed the trolls buddy . They have their pain now with AMD easily fixing a problem they believed it could totally ruin RX480's sales. Every customer is happy with the fix except for green fanboys who want AMD dead to be able to pay twice then now for their beloved GPUs...

In my experience around here.. people who call others fanboys are in fact themselves, fan boys..
If that's what you consider and intelligent response.
/yawn..

xkm1948 · Jul 10, 2016

RejZoR said:
GTX 970 is a bad device with it's 3.5GB crap. RX480 was just configured badly. GTX 970 can't ever be fixed. RX480 was already fixed. Anything else?

Selective blindness it is called. I haven't seen nvidia fixing its incompatiability problem with HTC Vive yet and i see 0 complains. AMD fixed a problem and people are still complaining. Double standard much?

the54thvoid · Jul 10, 2016

xkm1948 said:
Selective blindness it is called. I haven't seen nvidia fixing its incompatiability problem with HTC Vive yet and i see 0 complains. AMD fixed a problem and people are still complaining. Double standard much?

I'm awesomely immune to a retort as I'm the one that linked the initial HTC VR issue in a post last week.
But seriously dude, your posts are incredibly immature and stink of bitterness. Why try so hard to focus on Fanboys? Don't you see the absolute irony in what you do?
Seriously, please try to post about the issue in the OP without trying to make it a gutter fight with the 'other' side.
Neither team makes perfect products. Neither team makes perfect drivers. People aren't perfect either and we'll get people here that always poke fun (talking to you @Fluffmeister

). But fluff isn't hostile. Some people downright are and you're well on that path. It's unpleasant.
You don't like Nvidia, or you don't like their fanboys, neither do I. But as soon as you pick up the sword to fight them, you're in the other camp be default. Rise above it and help keep TPU more mature than other sites. Please?

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jul 10, 2016

D007 said:
Kind of loling a bit here.. People keep screaming AMD fixed it!.. But they really didn't....
They gave you a driver update.. Which is totally normal and they can improve performance in "some games" while hurting it in others..
Truth is if you enable compatibility mode, you lose 3%..
The driver update is just a driver update.. All cards get them..
You lost 3% with the fix..
Ok.. Scream about the driver update now again, as if it is a valid response..lol..

That being said.. Did it ever really require a fix? I mean who's hardware could this possibly harm?
Just leave compatibility mode off I guess..

In my experience around here.. people who call others fanboys are in fact themselves, fan boys..
If that's what you consider and intelligent response.
/yawn..

I've got 2, Amd did fix it with a driver ,and I'm getting the same scores in 3mark I got before and I'm folding with them so they Have been soak tested adequately and haven't killed my mother board even without its pciex additional power Molex in use, also wizard and many other sites agree its fixed ,why you such a refusenik

Norton · Jul 10, 2016

theoneandonlymrk said:
I've got 2, Amd did fix it with a driver ,and I'm getting the same scores in 3mark I got before and I'm folding with them so they Have been soak tested adequately and haven't killed my mother board even without its pciex additional power Molex in use, also wizard and many other sites agree its fixed ,why you such a refusenik

Did you try folding with them yet? Really hope they do well in ppd since I want to give mine some folding work to do after I get it installed

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jul 10, 2016

Norton said:
Did you try folding with them yet? Really hope they do well in ppd since I want to give mine some folding work to do after I get it installed

Certainly,mine are at it now, on stock clocks I was getting 550 000(clients been off and on all weekend so I actually expect 620000 given stable folding)ppd but I've downclocked them to 1140 for 528000 ppd until I get waterblocks because they do run very hot I run 4 folding CPU cores too, Ek need to get there stuff out .

the54thvoid · Jul 10, 2016

theoneandonlymrk said:
Certainly,mine are at it now, on stock clocks I was getting 550 000(clients been off and on all weekend so I actually expect 620000 given stable folding)ppd but I've downclocked them to 1140 for 528000 ppd until I get waterblocks because they do run very hot I run 4 folding CPU cores too, Ek need to get there stuff out .

Really surprised RX480 blocks aren't out yet. The Radeon Pro Duo blocks were out almost the same time.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jul 10, 2016

the54thvoid said:
Really surprised RX480 blocks aren't out yet. The Radeon Pro Duo blocks were out almost the same time.

I've seen some plate type at water cooling uk from xspc but I'd prefer EK full cover long term.

the54thvoid · Jul 10, 2016

Yeah, I think the XSPC is a 'budget' cooler. Not sure if it was TPU but I saw a PR post on a tech site for them. If you can hack that driver and get them under water you could push them further, though for folding I guess stability is king.

HD64G · Jul 10, 2016

D007 said:
In my experience around here.. people who call others fanboys are in fact themselves, fan boys..
If that's what you consider and intelligent response.
/yawn..

I cannot feed trolls, so have a good time doing what you like. Even ignoring the facts and not being productive in the topic we discuss...

GhostRyder · Jul 10, 2016

D007 said:
Kind of loling a bit here.. People keep screaming AMD fixed it!.. But they really didn't....
They gave you a driver update.. Which is totally normal and they can improve performance in "some games" while hurting it in others..
Truth is if you enable compatibility mode, you lose 3%..
The driver update is just a driver update.. All cards get them..
You lost 3% with the fix..
Ok.. Scream about the driver update now again, as if it is a valid response..lol..

That being said.. Did it ever really require a fix? I mean who's hardware could this possibly harm?
Just leave compatibility mode off I guess..

In my experience around here.. people who call others fanboys are in fact themselves, fan boys..
If that's what you consider and intelligent response.
/yawn..

That is not quite correct, I think you missed the part about how it changes the power distribution. It not only changes the power distribution by default to more on the 6 pin side side, but it also includes a fix for keeping the power lower if you want. By default, you will now be much lower on the PCIE side now but if you want to lower hte power further you just enable compatibility mode (Which in all honesty will probably see a very minuscule use).

the54thvoid said:
Really surprised RX480 blocks aren't out yet. The Radeon Pro Duo blocks were out almost the same time.

Well you can order them so maybe soon?

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jul 10, 2016

GhostRyder said:
That is not quite correct, I think you missed the part about how it changes the power distribution. It not only changes the power distribution by default to more on the 6 pin side side, but it also includes a fix for keeping the power lower if you want. By default, you will now be much lower on the PCIE side now but if you want to lower hte power further you just enable compatibility mode (Which in all honesty will probably see a very minuscule use).

Well you can order them so maybe soon?

Nice looking block but it would be upside down and out of sight in mine so a bit spangly for me. And expensive.

TRWOV · Jul 11, 2016

the54thvoid said:
Really surprised RX480 blocks aren't out yet. The Radeon Pro Duo blocks were out almost the same time.

This was announced the same day the 480 was released:

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...ith-radeon-rx-480-full-coverage-block.223784/

Assimilator · Jul 11, 2016

TheLaughingMan said:
Next time they should be like Nvidia with their missing 512 MB of VRAM and just make excuses.

"Missing 512MB of VRAM"? How do you AMD fanboys dream up this s**t that has zero basis in reality?

Tatty_One said:
Trolling much, you on a retainer? I see some more reply bans coming if it continues.

Can't you just ban it outright and save everyone's time?

Fluffmeister said:
Anyway, I think we all agree it's good to see AMD getting close to GM204's performance per watt, and fixing these problems which pop up with new card launches.

Yep, it's awesome that GloFo's 14nm process is barely capable of matching TSMC's 28nm, while TSMC's 16nm is leaps ahead.

R-T-B · Jul 11, 2016

Assimilator said:
Yep, it's awesome that GloFo's 14nm process is barely capable of matching TSMC's 28nm, while TSMC's 16nm is leaps ahead.

You have to factor in AMD insists on making their cards much more potent at FP32, which hurts their energy efficiency something fierce. Because of this, we don't really know how far behind GloFo's efficiency on their 14nm node is... but it still seems to be worse than TSMC's 16nm for certain.

cadaveca · Jul 11, 2016

R-T-B said:
You have to factor in AMD insists on making their cards much more potent at FP32, which hurts their energy efficiency something fierce. Because of this, we don't really know how far behind GloFo's efficiency on their 14nm node is... but it still seems to be worse than TSMC's 16nm for certain.

There's at least the clock-speed difference...

But here's the thing. It's obviously cheaper per mm, or AMD wouldn't be selling these cards for so cheap. That's part of the nice thing here when it comes to what AMD offers, is it shows something really interesting about what GloFo offers. But that's something that belongs in an entirely different thread. I'm kind of happy both with AMD and GloFo at this point. What that means in the long run is where the money is.

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AMD Releases PCI-Express Power Draw Fix, We Tested, Confirmed, Works

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