PSU failing?

[cameronh779]

Ill make this short as I can. I woke up this morning and realized my computer had restarted this happens occasionally but this is the first time I have looked into it. I checked event viewer and it is ''Event 41''.

Description:
The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

Going to try to put the details tab of this error in a spoiler forgive me if I can't.

Spoiler

- EventData
BugcheckCode 0
BugcheckParameter1 0x0
BugcheckParameter2 0x0
BugcheckParameter3 0x0
BugcheckParameter4 0x0
SleepInProgress false
PowerButtonTimestamp 0

System
- Provider
[ Name] Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
[ Guid] {331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}
EventID 41
Version 2
Level 1
Task 63
Opcode 0
Keywords 0x8000000000000002
- TimeCreated
[ SystemTime] 2016-07-29T06:49:15.674414300Z
EventRecordID 56216
Correlation
- Execution
[ ProcessID] 4
[ ThreadID] 8
Channel System
Computer C-PC
- Security
[ UserID] S-1-5-18

Before i jump to the conclusion its my POS Logysis PSU which has been running for over a year now. I wanted to ask the forums.

Thanks in advance everyone and ill be here to answer any other questions. I'm hoping desperately it wasn't the PSU because I sure cant afford a new one.


EDIT: I have added important info moments ago in my last post I will repost here.

I have some more information. I have checked event viewer and read over multiple things.

Right after the Kernel 41 error, it says these 2 things:

Performance power management features on processor 0 in group 0 are disabled due to a firmware problem. Check with the computer manufacturer for updated firmware.

Performance power management features on processor 1 in group 0 are disabled due to a firmware problem. Check with the computer manufacturer for updated firmware.

A few hours afterwards while using the PC, these came up today:

The device, \Device\Harddisk0\DR0, has a bad block.

It came up twice only 4 seconds in between. I have also scrolled through and found the same error for my CD rom which is and old IDE drive.

I run DVDs at night and through the night while I sleep. I watch them while I fall asleep. And I notice that these errors will occur for the CD- Rom 10-20 times in a row.

Hopefully this may add insight. Maybe it isn't the PSU i am not sure. Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[little cat]

Defrag the hdd . It would improve its performance and thus the PC may meet some system timeouts

 

[cameronh779]

Defrag the hdd . It would improve its performance and thus the PC may meet some system timeouts

Would it matter if I said I did defrag it less than 2 weeks ago? I used defraggler by Priform or whatever lol. Should I use the W7 defagger?

Maybe its also worth mentioning I havent installed many windows updates.

 

[little cat]

The size of the hdd is little . so it could easily get fragmented .

As for the PSU , this option is costly as mentioned before .
How much is the free space of the hdd ?

 

[Silas Woodruff]

Come on, a good brand PSU can't be that high price, surely he can spare 50$ for something decent.

 

[jboydgolfer]

I used defraggler by Priform or whatever lol. Should I use the W7 defagger?

Personally I avoid ANY software, or service which does something that I can do myself...for example, a defragging program, or service , when windows has one built in.
another example being "download managers" , I am not familiar with the Dfrag service you posted, so im not saying it is bad, Its just a rule of thumb I go by, and has served me well.

 

[cameronh779]

Come on, a good brand PSU can't be that high price, surely he can spare 50$ for something decent.

Surely your comment isnt helpful at all. You have no clue of my financial situation sir.

 

[cameronh779]

The size of the hdd is little . so it could easily get fragmented .

As for the PSU , this option is costly as mentioned before .
How much is the free space of the hdd ?

65GB free.

I will use the W7 defragger and hopefully this won't happen again. I am doubtful only because of the quality of the PSU. Not of anyones here knowledge. But it has been going for a long time and whenever I can I certainly need to replace it with something better.

 

[little cat]

65GB free.

I will use the W7 defragger and hopefully this won't happen again. I am doubtful only because of the quality of the PSU. Not of anyones here knowledge. But it has been going for a long time and whenever I can I certainly need to replace it with something better.

So , it s fine

 

[cameronh779]

So , it s fine

I'm sorry? I dont understand?

By the way, analyzed and 17% fragmented and defragging now.

 

[little cat]

I'm sorry? I dont understand?

By the way, analyzed and 17% fragmented and defragging now.

65GB free space is enough for Windows to function properly

 

[cameronh779]

65GB free space is enough for Windows to function properly

So, that wouldn't be the cause of the restart? Would that mean that it is failing?

 

[RejZoR]

I very much doubt it's a HDD causing this. There is something external interferring with your system. PSU being a very likely offender. Do you have any chance to use a different PSU just for testing? Is system overclocked? Have you changed anything before this started happening (BIOS settings, new hardware etc)?

 

[cameronh779]

I very much doubt it's a HDD causing this. There is something external interferring with your system. PSU being a very likely offender. Do you have any chance to use a different PSU just for testing? Is system overclocked? Have you changed anything before this started happening (BIOS settings, new hardware etc)?

I have not changed anything. I will be happy to link my motherboard if needed but simply it is locked in the sense that i cant overclock my CPU. Temps are under 60c full load with my e8400 and my GPU temps are fine as well. When you asked this I looked through my event viewer and the same thing has been happened since Late 2015. With a week or two weeks in between each restart. It seems to mostly only happen in the AM. I don't have a TV in my room and watch DVDs on my computer and it runs just about 24/7.

I had some artifacting with my GPU recently as well which I was unable to test temps at the time. I just got internet back. I cleaned a good bit of black dust out it and temps are fine and havent experienced any issues since. Not aware if that is relevant.

 

[RejZoR]

Do you have any other PSU to test with?

 

[Aquinus]

Is power stable in your area? I have a UPS on my tower and it regularly goes off because of fluctuations from the mains. I would find it odd that the PSU being at fault would cause it do restart at idle. My buddy had a PSU issue where it would go to sleep and it would never wake up unless the machine was unplugged for a while and a new PSU solved that problem. I have to semi-echo this though:

Come on, a good brand PSU can't be that high price, surely he can spare 50$ for something decent.

As with a lot of things you buy, you get what you pay for. If you have a really cheap PSU, then you'll get really cheap results. If the machine is stable under full load for an extended period of time, I would doubt that it's the PSU.

 

[cameronh779]

Do you have any other PSU to test with?

Unfortunately I do not. But if I did it seems to be a random occurance.

 

[cameronh779]

Is power stable in your area? I have a UPS on my tower it it regularly goes off because of fluctuations from the mains. I would find it odd that the PSU being at fault would cause it do restart at idle. My buddy had a PSU issue where it would go to sleep and it would never wake up unless the machine was unplugged for a while and a new PSU solved that problem. I have to semi-echo this though:

As with a lot of things you buy, you get what you pay for. If you have a really cheap PSU, then you'll get really cheap results. If the machine is stable under full load for an extended period of time, I would doubt that it's the PSU.

I am unaware about the towers in my area. But now that you mention that I look and see that my computer is plugged into a rather old power strip rather than direct to the wall. That could be it!?

EDIT: I certainly understand that quality is important when it comes to power supplies. I won't put my business all over the internet but I am forced to work with what I have at the moment. Until something fails I can't upgrade anything. When I begin to have a problem I will certainly do what I can to get something of higher quality.

 

[Aquinus]

But now that you mention that I look and see that my computer is plugged into a rather old power strip rather than direct to the wall. That could be it!?

I doubt it but, if the circuit you're on isn't grounded, that most definitely could cause some issues.

 

[cameronh779]

I doubt it but, if the circuit you're on isn't grounded, that most definitely could cause some issues.

So, for now plug direct to wall and wait to see if it happens again? I know the software OCCT has a PSU test. Should I maybe run that? I will work on replacing the PSU asap. Until then what should I do? Its not really causing me any issues it was just something I noticed happening and I thought before i jumped to any conclusions I would ask TPU.

 

[cameronh779]

Another question, with all this going on would it be safe to work with some clock speeds on my GPU?

 

[SnakeDoctor]

Defrag the hdd . It would improve its performance and thus the PC may meet some system timeouts

This would not do anything in my opinion

EDIT
PC can shutdown to Heat , Faulty ram,Hdd,Psu
Would start off by testing the hardware

• Ram- memtest

• Hdd- depends on the make eg ,seatool,wd diag or try hdd sentinel trail version

• psu - always a pain to check if faulty - S&M stress test ,But i would normally open the psu checking if any burn or capacitors are damaged

Best to test a working PSU to rule it out

 

[cameronh779]

This would not do anything in my opinion

Well, it wouldn't hurt anything so im doing it anyways.

 

[little cat]

Another question, with all this going on would it be safe to work with some clock speeds on my GPU?

If You want to get in trouble ! Just sort out the first problem then ..

 

[cameronh779]

You re "asking for trouble" ! Just sort out the first problem then ..

True true. Just need a little more oomph for my games. But you are correct.