Nvidia Pascal - GT / GTX10xx Owners Club [With Poll

[FreedomEclipse]

well i got a 1070 but didn't OC it more than factory OC as it's not needed at all for now (well ... 1080p ... later maybe, tho i doubt a 1440p would need a 1080 performances level ... and 4K is not my thing either )

although i did choose it after seeing OC result of many 1070 custom versus 1080 results (and maybe probably because the Zip code of my hometown is exactly the number of cuda core on that GPU ... )

edit... well nope my actual zipcode is 1911 ... that's 9 cuda core less

Im feelin the same, I want a powerful card, but the 1080 is so much more expensive here and TPUs reviews always say that an overclocked 1070 will do 1080 speeds. so it seems like a no brainer if you get what i mean. I have no interest in 144 or 165hz monitors or VR for that matter.


:EDIT:

basicly, youre looking at around 40% price difference in between a good 1070 and the most basic non FE 1080 In this case the 1080 is a Palit 1080 Gamerock and that percentage only goes up depending on how badass you want your 1080 to be.

There is a 59% difference between a MSI 1070 X & an ROG STRIX 1080

 

[P4-630]

@P4-630

Is it possible to get a poll going to find out how many people have 1080s vs 1070s? Id be interested to know how many cheaped out and bought a 1070 and just OC'd it to 1080 performance or close to it.

It seems I have no option to add a poll anymore also I'm unable to edit the OP.

 

[ne6togadno]

It seems I have no option to add a poll anymore also I'm unable to edit the OP.

ask @W1zzard to unlock editing of the first post for you

 

[P4-630]

Poll added!

 

[Athlon2K15]

Im feelin the same, I want a powerful card, but the 1080 is so much more expensive here and TPUs reviews always say that an overclocked 1070 will do 1080 speeds. so it seems like a no brainer if you get what i mean. I have no interest in 144 or 165hz monitors or VR for that matter.


:EDIT:

basicly, youre looking at around 40% price difference in between a good 1070 and the most basic non FE 1080 In this case the 1080 is a Palit 1080 Gamerock and that percentage only goes up depending on how badass you want your 1080 to be.

There is a 59% difference between a MSI 1070 X & an ROG STRIX 1080

If you still have the machine in your specs, the only option for an upgrade is a 1080 or wait. A 1070 is a side grade with less power consumption.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

If you still have the machine in your specs, the only option for an upgrade is a 1080 or wait. A 1070 is a side grade with less power consumption.

yup. Very much the same machine! I dont play half as many games as i used to hence the idea if i get and OC'n a 1070 close to 1080 speeds then ive pretty much saved myself in excess of $250. Im not so much worried about side grading anymore but BF1 likes Vram and the 3.5GB on my 970s arent really cutting it and ive had to dial down some settings to keep the frames from tanking.

so in my eyes....

Pros:

-Lower power consumption/will run cooler
-No more Dual GPu related issues
-more Vram
-Can be OC'd to close to if not over 1080 speeds
-CHEAPER! both to by then a 1080 and cheaper to run then 970SLi

Cons:

-Sidegrade, not as futureproof???
-Might not OC very well -- luck of the draw
-not a 1080

 

[Athlon2K15]

yup. Very much the same machine! I dont play half as many games as i used to hence the idea if i get and OC'n a 1070 close to 1080 speeds then ive pretty much saved myself in excess of $250. Im not so much worried about side grading anymore but BF1 likes Vram and the 3.5GB on my 970s arent really cutting it and ive had to dial down some settings to keep the frames from tanking.

so in my eyes....

Pros:

-Lower power consumption/will run cooler
-No more Dual GPu related issues
-more Vram
-Can be OC'd to close to if not over 1080 speeds
-CHEAPER! both to by then a 1080 and cheaper to run then 970SLi

Cons:

-Sidegrade, not as futureproof???
-Might not OC very well -- luck of the draw
-not a 1080

I get what your saying but i had a 1070 for a few months and didn't think i would need anymore performance, until GoW4 came out and the card couldn't handle the game.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I get what your saying but i had a 1070 for a few months and didn't think i would need anymore performance, until GoW4 came out and the card couldn't handle the game.

yeah but the big difference between you and me is i dont game at 4k for 1440p the 1070 might be just fine with a little OC

 

[Athlon2K15]

yeah but the big difference between you and me is i dont game at 4k for 1440p the 1070 might be just fine with a little OC

I think at 1440p you should be fine.

 

[GreiverBlade]

I think at 1440p you should be fine.

yep yep totally

 

[prasoooon]

Hey, I am joining this club. Cool Idea though.
Now what to do?...Share something...Then I will.
Yesterday I tried AC Syndicate with ultra setting n with DSR 1.78x on.
I played it with 1440p on 1080p monitor by this and still got the same fps i.e 58-61.

 

[avatar_raq]

How come you guys reach 2100+ mhz on the core so easily? No matter what I do, my MSI 1080 gaming X sustain between 2000=2050 mhz during gaming with the following settings:

Am I missing something? Or is it just bad luck in the silicone lottery?

 

[GreiverBlade]

How come you guys reach 2100+ mhz on the core so easily?

it's 2100 on turbo... unlike me who write i do 2100/2088/1706 as [max turbo/stable average turbo/core clock] most 10XX user always write : my card do 2XXX core clock, in a certain sense it's not wrong but ... oh wait ...

my MSI 1080 gaming X sustain between 2000=2050 mhz during gaming

m'kay ... you're one of them

mah ... 2000 2050 is enough (meaning you reach 2100~ as max and 2050 as average) ... for me i don't even need to go more than 1985/1917/1556 on my 1070 ... sooo for a 1080 (ps: i saw more 1070 reaching 2100 max turbo than 1080 ... increasing the "more bang for your bucks effect" specially in 1080p/1440p )

 

[Athlon2K15]

I just run valley in window mode and increase the clock offset in XOC until i get a lockup or artifact then back i down 10 and run 3dmark timespy, firestrike then do some gaming to see if its stable. My 1080 will go to 2150 pretty easy

 

[avatar_raq]

mah ... 2000 2050 is enough (meaning you reach 2100~ as max and 2050 as average) ...

My card can never reach 2100 mhz without locking up the entire PC or at least crashing the game.

 

[jormungand]

Having certain frame drop in BF1 i think my cpu bottleneck my card....dunno cuz im watching all the cores and it doesn't reach 100% maybe in a unseen milisec while im playing) frames drop to 33. Temps stay between 65-71c. Any idea guys>>>????

 

[Athlon2K15]

Entire system is a bottleneck I have ran a 1070 on a AMD rig FX8350 and Crosshair Formula Z and it was half the performance of my i5 6500 machine.

 

[jormungand]

i was waiting for zen or next intel gen but they are taking sooooo long dammit.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Entire system is a bottleneck I have ran a 1070 on a AMD rig FX8350 and Crosshair Formula Z and it was half the performance of my i5 6500 machine.

gaming wise a FX8350 is roughly equivalent to a i5 3750K, soooo half the performances of a 6500 ... nope, you don't see that, although you might "feel" that, (well ... thanks to the "quad" optimization syndrome noted in most games it is ... around 60% slower although in heavily multithreaded games, RTS or MMO that use more than 4 core, it's not 50% slower but rather "on par" for now, an, ofc in that case a 6700K would make sense, although, not entirely )
and ... "the entire system is a bottleneck"

for encoding that's another story the 8350 is still a notch above (not that it matter actually )

i went from a FX-6300 to a 4690K and noticed almost no noticeable gain, except for minimal FPS (nor did i feel a huge improvement making the switch from a 4690K to a 6600K )
my i3-4130T did also fine in all the type of games i play (well with some willingly tweaking in the settings ofc ... it was paired with a OC GTX860m/GTX750Ti )

i was waiting for zen or next intel gen but they are taking sooooo long dammit.

no worries ... OC it ... (it's written stock in your sys specs) maybe change the ram (i.e.: 1866 C9 or 2000 C10 ) the ga-990fxa-ud3 (rev. 4.0) is a good board for that, you are still fine till Zen, or a price drop on Skylake. (not mentioning 33fps minimal drop is ... minimal)
also for now PCIeX 2.0 is still not a bottleneck (unless 4K and a 1080 maybe ... )

 

[P4-630]

VBIOS updates for GTX1070 cards with micron vram which were causing artifacts and crashes:

• • ASUS on the product pages (six models)
  • EVGA: click here (10 models)
  • Gainward: on the product pages (5 models)
  • Palit: on the product pages (8 models)
  • Gigabyte: not available yet (working on it)
  • Inno3D: no information
  • KFA2: not available yet (working on it)
  • MSI: not yet available (available after internal verification process)
  • PNY: no information
  • Zotac: not available yet (working on it)

Asus also added a so-called 0dB mode, to the GTX 1070 Dual.

https://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/496...-uit-voor-geheugenproblemen-gtx-1070---update

 

[jormungand]

VBIOS updates for GTX1070 cards with micron vram which were causing artifacts and crashes:

• • ASUS on the product pages (six models)
  • EVGA: click here (10 models)
  • Gainward: on the product pages (5 models)
  • Palit: on the product pages (8 models)
  • Gigabyte: not available yet (working on it)
  • Inno3D: no information
  • KFA2: not available yet (working on it)
  • MSI: not yet available (available after internal verification process)
  • PNY: no information
  • Zotac: not available yet (working on it)

Asus also added a so-called 0dB mode, to the GTX 1070 Dual.

https://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/496...-uit-voor-geheugenproblemen-gtx-1070---update

Micron can be a reason of artifacts or crashes??? OC or factory clocks??? anyway thanks for sharing

 

[P4-630]

Micron can be a reason of artifacts or crashes??? OC or factory clocks??? anyway thanks for sharing

There were problems when people started overclocking with their cards but also high clocked cards from the factory were having problems at their high stock clocks.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Hmmm Im due to have a 1070 at the end of the week. $241.47 difference between the 1070 i was going to buy and the Gigabyte 1080 G1 i was looking at... someone in the UK clubhouse mentioned the Micron memory and how its a bit of a lottery now to see which chips your card arrives with. The idea was to get a 1070 and overclock it to 1080 speeds but that might not be possible anymore. Just thinking if the 1080 is worth the extra money.

 

[Athlon2K15]

I dont think you gain much overclocking memory thats already 8GHz, i dont think its the bottleneck.

 

[slozomby]

Picked up on something more and more lately and it's bothering me.

Stock boost clocks for the FE cards is 1911/5006mhz.

When you start up a fullscreen program, load into a world etc, you get the aforementioned clocks. Then shortly after that 1911 turns into 1898. It seems to be (and this the only 'pattern') that as the % of GPU activity gets higher, say 60-70% it acts as a threshold and then the clocks fall to 1898mhz. This becomes the more consistent average speed that you experience. Yet there are times where the core goes as low as 1828mhz and again seemingly has no pattern except that the higher the % of GPU usage, the lower the clocks.

That was my initial observation.

Then I loaded up some games and realized that it wasn't necessarily the GPU %, it was more of whether the GPU was being taxed.

For example, if I look at the sky or the ground (which generally results in higher FPS as the GPU is technically working less [despite the GPU % being higher]) the clock pegs at it's maximum capability i.e. 1911mhz.

When I look straight ahead into a sand storm, with all the hardcore particles going and the framerate has dropped, the clocks start to diminish and bounce around.

I tested this with my overclock as well 2168/5537.
As soon as I look into a distance and /or the card is being taxed, it drops as far down as 2040-2050 range.


This is the opposite of what we'd expect with dynamic clocks where the less % of GPU activity and or the less stress on the card, the clock speed lowers itself intentionally as the higher clocks/performance is not needed to keep up the frame rate.

I tried compensating by using an increased power limit and then increased core voltage. It appeared to help allow the card to keep a more stable upper 1800s (i.e. 1898) though it eventually started dropping down again.

This wouldn't normally be an issue except the Pascal cards show really significant real world gains from overclocking as opposed to their ancestors. And even 100mhz can be a crucial 5fps between 55-60, or 91 and 96 etc.

I am struggling to understand why with a card that's not reaching it's thermal limits, that it would be downclocking instead of staying pegged.

my asus strix 1080 will start slowly lowering boost at 55C.
with my standard folding profile.
2025 @ 45c
1991 @ 60c
1943 @71c
so by playing with the fan profile you can fix the boost issue. I haven't found any other settings to fix it.

on the gaming profile I bump the core voltage to 100% and it squeezes out a little more boost.