Nvidia Pascal - GT / GTX10xx Owners Club [With Poll

[P4-630]

Which results in 2050MHz core boost speed:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15300177?

 

[Athlon2K15]

GTX 1070 just can't handle GoW4 at 4K, so i had to upgrade

 

[P4-630]

GTX 1070 just can't handle GoW4 at 4K, so i had to upgrade

LOL! Aaaand another one...
You have had many graphics cards in a short time!

So there will be a GTX1070 FE on sale soon on TPU?

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

GTX 1070 just can't handle GoW4 at 4K, so i had to upgrade

Why the FE mate?

 

[Athlon2K15]

LOL! Aaaand another one...
You have had many graphics cards in a short time!

So there will be a GTX1070 FE on sale soon on TPU?

I actually already sold it, before i bought this 1080.

Why the FE mate?

FE are near silent cards, generally better quality GPUs and i love the looks of the coolers.

 

[P4-630]

I actually already sold it, before i bought this 1080.



FE are near silent cards, generally better quality GPUs and i love the looks of the coolers.

Your i5 6500 not bottlenecking the GTX1080?
Maybe not because you're on 4K?

 

[Athlon2K15]

Your i5 6500 not bottlenecking the GTX1080?
Maybe not because you're on 4K?

Not really sure. I bought it to play GoW4 and if i go by the in-game benchmark its telling me the GPU is my bottleneck, so its possible the 6500 has more room still.

 

[GreiverBlade]

generally better quality GPUs .

nope. (4+1 phase and single 8pin is not helping to convince me.) and i highly doubt that FE have specially selected GPU for them. (unless i see an explicit proof, i used to think they did because of people saying/writing my FE does 2050+ on core OC when i was only reading base clock instead of boost and then noticed that my own card was able to reach what a FE could reach ... silly me ... )

and i love the looks of the coolers.

understandable point (at last i can understand it... more, if it was the cheapest 1080 available around) and blower type are handy in space constrained case (mITX boxes )

FE are near silent cards

still noisier than most custom model

Not really sure. I bought it to play GoW4 and if i go by the in-game benchmark its telling me the GPU is my bottleneck, so its possible the 6500 has more room still.

yep, a 6500 could be enough in that situation

Maybe not because you're on 4K?

probably.

 

[Athlon2K15]

nope. (4+1 phase and single 8pin is not helping to convince me.) and i highly doubt that FE have specially selected GPU for them. (unless i see an explicit proof, i used to think they did because of people saying/writing my FE does 2050+ on core OC when i was only reading base clock and then noticed that my own card was able to reach what a FE could reach ... silly me ... )

quality has nothing to do with the onboard power, really if a GPU needs all that extra power and noise suppression i would think the GPU itself is low quality. From what i have seen myself and read elsewhere FE cards will boost higher out of the box the any other.

 

[R-T-B]

quality has nothing to do with the onboard power, really if a GPU needs all that extra power and noise suppression i would think the GPU itself is low quality. From what i have seen myself and read elsewhere FE cards will boost higher out of the box the any other.

If you're really curious about the GPU-die quality, that's what ASIC-quality tells you.

Or do we still not have that for Pascal yet?

 

[P4-630]

Or do we still not have that for Pascal yet?

Nope...

 

[GreiverBlade]

If you're really curious about the GPU-die quality, that's what ASIC-quality tells you.

Or do we still not have that for Pascal yet?

nope ... still not readable

if a GPU needs all that extra power and noise suppression i would think the GPU itself is low quality

not really ... it's just for giving it more capability than a reference board

From what i have seen myself and read elsewhere FE cards will boost higher out of the box the any other.

ok ... i need some more source then (because from what i have seen ... custom model boost about the same as FE if not higher for some other model like the Classified, Hawk, Gaming Z or K!ngp!n )

quality has nothing to do with the onboard power, really if a GPU needs all that extra power and noise suppression i would think the GPU itself is low quality.

but is it really a proof that FE have better GPU's ?


edit ... all references i can find ... always state "not binned GPU"
http://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/2427-difference-between-gtx-1080-founders-edition-and-reference
https://www.custompcreview.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-founders-edition-explained/29296/
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...nvidia-founders-edition-geforce-gtx-explained

i guess it's just FE buyer that want to comfort themselves in getting something "premium" (call that a Placebo effect )although the "premium" nvidia mentioned in the FE description is the material, metal, used in the cooler and ofc the PCB layout traces, voltage regulator and twinFET phases... although i also highly doubt that a AIB custom PCB would be lower grade than a FE.

well ... yes they have a premium card with a premium reference cooler, premiumly priced, but with no advantage over a custom model, other than what i already wrote:
1. blower cooler's advantage in constrained space case.
2. ease to find a waterblock (although balanced by custom block manufacturer tending to make more and more model adapted to non ref model )
3. nice looking cooler (although can be grouped with Nr. 1 and does not warrant a +100$ price tag)

imho, only if the FE would be cheaper than the cheapest AIB custom model (other than semi ref with plastic shroud like a MSI Aero or some other brand like Galax blower type model ) that it would be a sensed buy
I.e.: if a GTX 1070 FE as long as it was between 484chf, which is the price of the MSI GTX 1070 Aero where i live, and 549chf, i would have taken one instead of my Armor model which is 549chf (yep ... i know ... Swiss 1070 are priced like 1080 MSRP )

 

[Vayra86]

quality has nothing to do with the onboard power, really if a GPU needs all that extra power and noise suppression i would think the GPU itself is low quality. From what i have seen myself and read elsewhere FE cards will boost higher out of the box the any other.

Nonsense, I'm sorry to say. FE's are not binned.

In addition, since Pascal is heavily temperature limited (will clock down if it reaches even 55 C you lose 13 mhz) the FE blower is simply the worst performance cooling solution you can get. There's no way around it - throttling is almost guaranteed. Cooling is not about noise suppression, but about the best possible temperature/noise/performance delta. The FE cooler fails on all counts. Has nothing to do with them being better or worse chips.

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

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[Vayra86]

Updated my BIOS with the Micron memory thing. Doesn't seem to do much on my card though, 2200mhz gives the occasional crash, no arti's but still, not stable for gaming. It's a shame really, because that's really pushing down on my bench score. The core really wants to go - it can peak to 2177mhz (!) if I pull back on memory OC. Definitely TDP limited even with the 122% slave bios on the card.

Going to stick to 2139mhz (+160) on Core & 2152mhz (+300) on mem for 24/7, see how long it holds now 8xAA Valley gave me 3974 pts on this OC.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15553872?

 

[FireFox]

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15554080

 

[TheOne]

On the bright side with FE you don't have to worry about the Micron bug that's going around.

 

[GreiverBlade]

On the bright side with FE you don't have to worry about the Micron bug that's going around.

me neither ...

P4-630's Gaming X is also a Samsung vRAM Vayra86 has a Micron 1070 (though doesn't seems to suffer from any issue, but i might be wrong, oh wait ... BIOS patched mmhhh well still seems to be less than samsung type)

nonetheless Micron is generic to the 1080, after all, all GDDR5X are Micron (so are the FE too, woops ... argument voided )

 

[TheOne]

Sorry, I should have specified, "On the bright side with 1070 FE you don't have to worry about the Micron bug that's going around.".

 

[P4-630]

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15554080

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http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15300177?

 

[GreiverBlade]

Sorry, I should have specified, "On the bright side with 1070 FE you don't have to worry about the Micron bug that's going around.".

that or brighter side you can get lucky and have a Samsung vRAM custom model (i wonder if it was only on early batches or it's still actual, because that would be weird if i bought a second 1070 Armor and got Micron chips )

 

[FireFox]

you don't have to worry about the Micron bug

Mine is Micron and so far i haven't had any issues.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Mine is Micron and so far i haven't had any issues.

so i guess it only affect GDDR5 and not GDDR5X (oh well ... ) which is totally weird ... the chip ridden with issues should be the GDDR5X ... and not the GDDR5 from Micron ... that's a shame for Micron that they have issue with proven chips and not with ... new one

 

[TheOne]

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ma...r-geforce-gtx-1070-due-to-memory-issue,4.html

GeForce GTX 1070 cards fitted with Samsung memory do not have any issues, however some manufacturers have or switched towards Micron chips, and these are the culprit of the reported issues. Especially during overclocking of the graphics memory problems will appear fast with bad results like checkerboard patterns. The problem is was found in the the speed of the voltage adjustment from the low power idle P-States to support the memory voltage requirements under load. If you can keep the idle voltage above 0.800V before you apply the overclock you never see the issue.

Also someone on the GeForce forums claims to have 2 Zotac 1070 FE cards with Micron.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...hread-released-10-6-16-/post/5000512/#5000512

I have two Zotac FE 1070s. Both have micron memory.

So there goes my happy thought for the FE's.

 

[GreiverBlade]

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ma...r-geforce-gtx-1070-due-to-memory-issue,4.html


Also someone on the GeForce forums claims to have 2 Zotac 1070 FE cards with Micron.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/...hread-released-10-6-16-/post/5000512/#5000512


So there goes my happy thought for the FE's.

ahhh 1070 related .... i am glad that the useless GDDR5X has no issues (joking ... although the 5X is not a huge leap over GDDR5 in term of real life performances)