Nvidia Pascal - GT / GTX10xx Owners Club [With Poll

[GreiverBlade]

I was first thinking about upgrading my CPU next year (i7 6700k or the like),
but since I know now that if you have a larger resolution screen , more pixels means less work for the CPU right?

6600K!!!!!üü!ü!üü! ... pfff 6700K are for [CENSORED] or ... heavy streamer/tasker/eventually CPU hog RTS player ...

my 6600K at a mere 4.4 can take on any 6700K for gaming (plus ... for instance where the HT hurts more than it help ... no need to make a detour by the BIOS and deactivate it well ... a 6700K without HT is a 6600K ... )

higher res? i have a 1080p just like you but in 27" not 22"

I forgot to mention something yesterday.

Is it my Backplate Sexy enough
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mine will be .... yours is, but ... that stain on it is horrible (EVGA sorry ... personal reason ... i do not carry EVGA in my heart well classy and FTW from them are not bad, albeit OP as f*ck where i live )


now ... just need to confirm if i take black or white ... black is a bit more logical for my actual rig

 

[FireFox]

Nice card though,

It really bother me that EKWB doesn't have a Watercooler block for it

 

[P4-630]

It really bother me that EKWB doesn't have a Watercooler block for it

May still be coming?

 

[GreiverBlade]

It really bother me that EKWB doesn't have a Watercooler block for it

i would be kinda pissed for mine tho ... EKWB have a Armor block...

May still be coming?

probably ... although like the K!ngp!n the classy are a bit ... rare breed ... i suspect EKWB make custom block for more commonly found cards

tho i hope they will do one

 

[CounterZeus]

6600K!!!!!üü!ü!üü! ... pfff 6700K are for [CENSORED] or ... heavy streamer/tasker/eventually CPU hog RTS player ...

my 6600K at a mere 4.4 can take on any 6700K for gaming (plus ... for instance where the HT hurts more than it help ... no need to make a detour by the BIOS and deactivate it well ... a 6700K without HT is a 6600K ... )

i7 still has more L3 cache and probably has enough overclock headroom to match that 6600K at 4.4
Games are also utilizing more threads lately if possible. OW for example is already at 6. But...it's probably not worth the 100 euro more if you only play games and are on a budget Last time I saw an i7 often do worse in gaming was the 2500K-2600K era, but I haven't checked the later releases.

 

[GreiverBlade]

i7 still has more L3 cache and probably has enough overclock headroom to match that 6600K at 4.4
Games are also utilizing more threads lately if possible. OW for example is already at 6. But...it's probably not worth the 100 euro more if you only play games and are on a budget Last time I saw an i7 often do worse in gaming was the 2500K-2600K era, but I haven't checked the later releases.

i was joking if @P4-630 is not on a budget, like i was, a 6700K is a logical choice (and the HT hurt still live on beyond 2500K to 2600K ) and yes obviously if a 6600K can reach a mere 4.4 (which isn't by any mean a high OC ) a 6700K can do it too after all a 6700K is a 6600K with a little more L3 and HT, but yep ... is it worth 100$ overprice? for me it wasn't (i had several i7 and i5 in the past and i always kept the i5 and resold the i7 most of the time, except for the i7-920 i had )

 

[Vayra86]

i7 still has more L3 cache and probably has enough overclock headroom to match that 6600K at 4.4
Games are also utilizing more threads lately if possible. OW for example is already at 6. But...it's probably not worth the 100 euro more if you only play games and are on a budget Last time I saw an i7 often do worse in gaming was the 2500K-2600K era, but I haven't checked the later releases.

Even games that scale across more than 4 cores won't be using HT to any effect at all. Once a core is at 100% load, it won't be dabbling in HT threads as those are by definition also introducing a bit of overhead. This is why the general consensus is that non-HT is just as useful for gaming as HT enabled CPUs. Only when games fully utilize all CPU cores, will you start losing performance - and only then HT will have no impact. Even for background tasks, once you fully load a core, it won't have much wiggle room to push HT threads. And then there is the added bonus of the vast majority of game engines only pushing threads on physical cores, not virtual ones - this won't be changing either as the consoles are 8 physical cores as well. Zen's SMT is similar to Intel's HT as well, so it is what it is.

 

[P4-630]

Even games that scale across more than 4 cores won't be using HT to any effect at all. Once a core is at 100% load, it won't be dabbling in HT threads as those are by definition also introducing a bit of overhead. This is why the general consensus is that non-HT is just as useful for gaming as HT enabled CPUs. Only when games fully utilize all CPU cores, will you start losing performance - and only then HT will have no impact. Even for background tasks, once you fully load a core, it won't have much wiggle room to push HT threads. And then there is the added bonus of the vast majority of game engines only pushing threads on physical cores, not virtual ones.

Well I play GTA V mostly, as far as I know it does use all threads if you have got an i7.

@Vayra86 Is your GTX1070 delivered yet by PostNL?

 

[Vayra86]

Well I play GTA V mostly, as far as I know it does use all threads if you have got an i7.

@Vayra86 Is your GTX1070 delivered yet by PostNL?

I've got a cardboard box sitting here, still at work though, delivered by DPD PostNL I have trouble putting my faith into

Don't get me wrong on HT - it CAN be used. But will only be used when the cores are not at work. So if you push 100% load on 4 cores, effectively HT won't add anything but additional latency and/or overhead.

 

[CounterZeus]

Even games that scale across more than 4 cores won't be using HT to any effect at all. Once a core is at 100% load, it won't be dabbling in HT threads as those are by definition also introducing a bit of overhead. This is why the general consensus is that non-HT is just as useful for gaming as HT enabled CPUs. Only when games fully utilize all CPU cores, will you start losing performance - and only then HT will have no impact. Even for background tasks, once you fully load a core, it won't have much wiggle room to push HT threads. And then there is the added bonus of the vast majority of game engines only pushing threads on physical cores, not virtual ones - this won't be changing either as the consoles are 8 physical cores as well. Zen's SMT is similar to Intel's HT as well, so it is what it is.

I know how HT works (civil engineer CS, was even an exam question back in the day) I do have to admit I don't know how OW (or the OS) handles the 6-threads/cores. I was just giving an example that games are pushing more threads. Bad case, this will be the same as non-HT CPU if it just assigns physical cores (worst case on older OS, even worse than without HT if it assigns 2 heavy tasks to one physical core). Best case, it will use the extra resources with probably neglectable results. I remember Borderlands using a thread for audio for example. I can't imagine the load is that heavy...

 

[FireFox]

Well I play GTA V mostly, as far as I know it does use all threads if you have got an i7.

Are my 8 cores enough?
I can give you some if you need it

tho i hope they will do one

I hope so

i suspect EKWB make custom block for more commonly found cards

That could be but would be unfair

 

[the54thvoid]

It really bother me that EKWB doesn't have a Watercooler block for it

Alphacool are making one. @Nicholas Peyton has a thread started on it.

 

[Vayra86]

I'm joining the club

My temps stabilize at 56 C during multiple Valley runs with only power target set at 112% and a custom yet still silent fan profile (basically a 1:1 temp/fan speed setup with slight bump at 60C)

FTW edition huh... I'm more like

WTF

... more raised eyebrows. That moment you notice you're CPU limited in The Division with all sliders to the max. Glorious! Gave it a little clock bump too. Is that 51 C ? :O

 

[P4-630]

Gave it a little clock bump too. Is that 51 C ? :O

yeah I know they can run really cool with a custom fan profile, I was just playing GTA V and the gpu temp was 45 degrees max with a maximum of 47% fan speed

 

[FireFox]

I have set fan profile auto and even running at 2126MHz max temp 60c.

Last week around 8am it was too cold and my GPU temp was 15c idle and full load 35c/38c but after 3 or 4 hours temperatures were as always 30c idle 60c playing games

 

[Vayra86]

Some progress on the valley score... Core seems to crap out at anything over 2139mhz.

 

[Vayra86]

And in GPU-Z you probably see the blue graph VREL when it's clocking down, I have that with my GTX1070 as well.
I can OC the core but still getting a small drop when I see VREL in GPU-Z.

Double post - but this 'issue' is as old as Kepler. 'Dropping a boost bin' of 13 mhz. The GPU kinda always eventually settles into that at the lowest temperature target which I believe is around 60C. GPU Boost 1 and 2 worked with temperature targeted boost bins, and would at least drop one 13 mhz bin at every new temp target, 60, 70 C, 80 C.

So far to me it seems Pascal behaves very similar to Kepler except for the fact that it can more agressively drop bins at the same temp targets. As long as I keep my card under 55C it remains rock solid, doesn't even drop one bin. When it gets in danger of even reaching 60 C it drops one.

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

My 1080 behaves somehow the same if the temp is under 55c I get 2126mhz on the core but if the temp reaches 56-60c goes down to 2076mhz. I don't really mind as I found the perfect balance between temp and fan spd around 63c with 60% fan spd at full load.

 

[P4-630]

Some progress on the valley score... Core seems to crap out at anything over 2139mhz.

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Your core OC's well, how about your card's vram?
Mine did 4912 in valley with 4xAA
Core 2050
Mem 4829

 

[Vayra86]

Your core OC's well, how about your card's vram?
Mine did 4912 in valley with 4xAA
Core 2050
Mem 4829

My VRAM doesn't want to move beyond +300-340, but still on 112% limit atm so it may well be TDP limited too. All I see is VRel.

My 4780 score was with
Core 2101
Mem 4303

So I def need to push on VRAM more.

 

[FireFox]

I have decided not to check anymore what my GPU does otherwise i would become paranoid, there's always something new with this cards, till my GPU is boosting to 2126MHz and temperatures are 60c everything is ok, 1070 and 1080 series are just weird cards.

 

[mobiuus]

hi all!
been observing this thread for some time and thought to step in and share oc results on my msi 1070 gaming X....
with voltage and power limit (i think 126%) set to max via afterburner i found a sweetspot for
core clock 1702 (boosts to 2101 and always stays there)
and memory 2375 or 9500 effectively, and that is with micron memory... long live maximum performance option in ncp until msi releases
mem fix bios.... im on work so cya all laters!

 

[P4-630]

hi all!
been observing this thread for some time and thought to step in and share oc results on my msi 1070 gaming X....
with voltage and power limit (i think 126%) set to max via afterburner i found a sweetspot for
core clock 1702 (boosts to 2101 and always stays there)
and memory 2375 or 9500 effectively, and that is with micron memory... long live maximum performance option in ncp until msi releases
mem fix bios.... im on work so cya all laters!

Any benchmarks and GPU-Z screenshots to back that up?
So it seems Samsung memory clocks a bit better.
Mine does 2415.4MHz on the memory, 9661.6MHz effectively. (didn't go any higher yet than W1zzards clocks in the review).
No artifacts at this speed.

 

[FireFox]

We are talking about OC all the time but nobody talk about how much GPU CLOCK OFFSET and MEMORY CLOCK OFFSET they are using, in most cases POWER TARGET it's all what i read, i am not the OP of the Thread but i would really appreciate if you guys post some Screenshots as i have done.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Liviu Cojocaru]

We are talking about OC all the time but nobody talk about how much GPU CLOCK OFFSET and MEMORY CLOCK OFFSET they are using, in most cases POWER TARGET it's all what i read, i am not the OP of the Thread but i would really appreciate if you guys post some Screenshots as i have done.

Thanks in advance.

I will...when I get home from work