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[lorraine walsh]

ghost in the shell, death note and full metal alchemist. All gettin live action movies

 

[kurosagi01]

The change of plot has put me off a bit,with the whole Hollywood silly catchphrase/plot twist lines.
Death note already had one i thought, not sure about full metal alchemist but Jojo Bizarre Adventure Diamond is unbreakable has also been confirmed for live action with castings been announced already.
Find Jojo one a bit funny because i think they can't really do phantom blood because its set in England and to me the legit way would be to cast british actors and Battle Tendency may spark controversy because its set during the WW2 era.

 

[lorraine walsh]

netflix is making the death note one

 

[djisas]

So...is anyone going to be watching the live action Ghost in the shell movie now its close to release date?

Me!
On April 2 if it's on the best cinema...
I dont particularly care about the story, the movies have literally nothing on the manga, which tbh is good, different medias, different stories...

 

[ViperXTR]

I'm mostly Konosuba this season especially ive read the Light novels and curious how they translate it to anime, also made tons of sketches and drawings out of it, based on the scenes and random ones

Spoiler

 

[de.das.dude]

they've changed the story a bit, but i'll go see it

ill watch it just for ScaJoh

 

[kurosagi01]

I'm going to watch the 1995 movie with the other half and then possibly decide to go watch it out of boredom possibly and see how cheesy or a step in right direction for live action anime films..

 

[lyra]

ah sweet, i found the weeb side of TPU. lit.

 

[djisas]

ah sweet, i found the weeb side of TPU. lit.

Welcome to the weeb side then...

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Just catching up with DBS -- first thought that crossed my mind was damn Bulma loves to f**k.

Second thought is I dont think im going to bother following the series anymore. It just seems to be going around in circles again with the fighting tournaments and pointless episodes where a whole lot of nothing happens.

Iron Blood Orphans is still pretty good though. So much more feels then any other gundam series ever made.

I'll probably make a start on 'All Out' 'Tales Of Zestiria The X' 'Chain Chronicle' or 'Soul Buster'

Currently watching Tiger Mask and waiting for the next season of Drifters. Tiger mask is a little silly but still enjoyable to watch.

 

[Vya Domus]

ghost in the shell, death note and full metal alchemist. All gettin live action movies

Unfortunately.

 

[Ahhzz]

Unfortunately.

Already saw the Death Note movies, and enjoyed them. Don't know why we need another.
Gotta watch the GitS, just hoping it doesn't destroy my memory.

FMA?.... not too sure about that one....

 

[Vya Domus]

Already saw the Death Note movies, and enjoyed them. Don't know why we need another.
Gotta watch the GitS, just hoping it doesn't destroy my memory.

FMA?.... not too sure about that one....

I for one believe the element of animation is the whole point , you remove that , the charm is gone no matter the budget and how much of a great job everyone dose. I mean they might succeed as standalone movies , but you are basically going to watch them for something you just simply wont find in them. Way I see it all anime adaptions are just to cash in onto something popular.

 

[Ahhzz]

....Way I see it all anime adaptions are just to cash in onto something popular.

So are over 50% of the anime out there, imo: pantsu. Just looking for a different way to show someone's underwear. And I'm not saying that that's your particular flavor, I'm just pointing out the tons of shows that generate a plot around the intent to show some young girl's animated butt, or boobs, usually in underwear. They're doing the same thing. "Cash in onto something popular". Sex Sells, and everyone knows it. Putting down a particular medium for doing the same thing (marketing what sells) is kind of narrow minded, and slightly hypocritical.

I definitely wouldn't be one to champion live versions of my favorite shows. You just can't budget the kind of special effects that you'd need to do most of them justice. If they told me they were doing Howls, or Totoro, or even Bebop or Trigun, I think I'd be screaming for days, and I really don't think I could force myself to watch them, unless they were headed by Movie Gods like Lucas, Spielberg, or (may the gods bless us) Miyazaki. Although.... hmmmmm... "Kiki"..... I would watch that... not a lot of bells and whistles.... just green screen... Harry potter would have been much more work, and looked completely realistic in the air....

Sorry, I digress...

I honestly couldn't think of one show that I would like to see put thru the Live Action grinder (Kiki excepted now heheh), but I also have to admit that with Death Note, I was very surprised, and impressed. Another one that I wasn't disappointed in was Rurouni Kenshin. Sure, a lot of the fancy effects that you can "draw" on the screen can't easily be replicated in a live film, but they got the "flavor" of both series done well, for me. The acting was excellent to me. The other side of that coin, obviously: Airbender... *shudder*

Obviously, to each his own. Noone would force you to check these new offerings out. But, I think to ignore them simply because you think they're cashing in on your favorite franchise might prevent you from experiencing a truly enjoyable movie. I offer up Deadpool as true to the spirit of the comic, as well as the second and third Toy Story movies, which were obviously Toy sellers, but were actually enjoyable.

Movies can (and should) be fun. Let's face it, neither any of the movies or shows I referenced, nor the shows you're championing, are done for the good of the public. They are there, cashing in on a current "fad" in the marketplace. They are there to make money, and once people get tired of seeing them, they'll stop making them, and they'll be replaced by something people will pay to see. I'm betting you're way too young to have seen Bugs Bunny in the mornings Saturday, and definitely not in a 2-hour block. Those days are gone, replaced by "the newest thing". It's progress, and it's money. They look to see what sells, and do their best to sell it until noone buys it any more. And hopefully, noone is immature enough on these forums to assume otherwise.

 

[kurosagi01]

Just catching up with DBS -- first thought that crossed my mind was damn Bulma loves to f**k.

Second thought is I dont think im going to bother following the series anymore. It just seems to be going around in circles again with the fighting tournaments and pointless episodes where a whole lot of nothing happens.

Iron Blood Orphans is still pretty good though. So much more feels then any other gundam series ever made.

I'll probably make a start on 'All Out' 'Tales Of Zestiria The X' 'Chain Chronicle' or 'Soul Buster'

Currently watching Tiger Mask and waiting for the next season of Drifters. Tiger mask is a little silly but still enjoyable to watch.

Well Bulma being pregnant is expected though isn't it since they do get a daughter in GT, the tournament thing should be good but i can't see tien,roshi and krillin lasting long in a fight.
Iron blood orphans has hit me pretty hard in the feels with certain scenes that has occured in recent episodes, Zestiria the X is actually pretty good as its telling the story slightly different to the game after episode 8 or something.

I'm fine with adaptations or re-boots as long as the execution is done right,GITS "may" be a step forward in right direction in terms of seeing a good live action anime/manga film. The only trouble is common people attention span and not want to dive into more in-depth of the movie plot and backstory is what in my opinion may cause directors to change the plot slightly from the original. Since GITS is being marketing heavily to everyone and not everyone would even know what GITS is based on and general consumers will most likely watch it because Scarlet Johanson is in it.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Im holding off on the GiTs movie because of whitewashing. I'll wait for reviews before i go and see it

 

[kurosagi01]

Im holding off on the GiTs movie because of whitewashing. I'll wait for reviews before i go and see it

Whitewashing is a thing and is what would have put me off watching it too but if the execution is good then i'm "okay" with it,the japs can't even cast correct people too and majority of their live action adaptations suck too. Attack on Titan for me personally a anime that is filled with characters that are essentially german if we are going by their names alone with exception of mikasa but they hired japanese to portray them but hey who am i to judge about the whole casting process. The same could be said if they ever did do Jojo Bizarre adventure Phantom blood i would love to see them portray british actors for the role.
Personally i just can't see any winning situation when it comes to casting the right people when it comes to any live action films.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Whitewashing is a thing and is what would have put me off watching it too but if the execution is good then i'm "okay" with it,the japs can't even cast correct people too and majority of their live action adaptations suck too. Attack on Titan for me personally a anime that is filled with characters that are essentially german if we are going by their names alone with exception of mikasa but they hired japanese to portray them but hey who am i to judge about the whole casting process. The same could be said if they ever did do Jojo Bizarre adventure Phantom blood i would love to see them portray british actors for the role.
Personally i just can't see any winning situation when it comes to casting the right people when it comes to any live action films.

There are a few flaws in your argument...

Im not sure if the live action of attack on titan was supposed to be for the 'big screen' but part of me doesnt think so as the director is 'Shinji Higuchi' who is a storyboard artist (or mangaka = manga artist) and 'SFX supervisor' who hasnt done that many movies while budget, both movies (part one and part two) cost them a total of $46million to make... Compare that to The Last Airbender which cost $150mil, or 'Doom' - $60mil though Doom is not from an asian background/concept but still a live action adaption as comparison. DBZ Evo on the other hand cost $60mil but that was because they used mainly new/unknown or small time actors who dont really care about huge pay packets so long as they get cast in a movie.

Attack on Titan was more or less something that started off as something of Japanese origin anyway so its a thin line between hiring Japanese actors and foreign actors to act out the movie. Knowing Japan, they would probably prefer to keep everything 'in house'.

DBZ EVO and The Last Airbender are perfect examples of white washing.... Lets not forget some of the more forgettable Tekken or some of the streetfighter movies. At least Legend Of Chun li tried by casting Kristin Kreuk who is half Chinese. NOT THE BEST CANDIDATE, but they tried.

All i see with GiTs movie is them taking something that's Japanese and 'Americanising' it with their adaptation... Its like, taking Snake Plissken from Escape from LA and putting him in Ireland or France or Antigua. The same jokes and stereotypes wont work any more and the reason why they worked was because they were in their country of origin.

There are many asian actors available to take on acting roles in big movies but Hollywood always complains that there is a lack of talent but they never want to or seem to want to reach out.


Donnie Yen is a great example -- Hollywood didnt give a fark about who he was till he started doing big kung fu movies. Now he's starred in big hollywood movies as well. Starwars: Rogue One, xXx: Return of Xander Cage (Its a terrible movie though)


So say what you want. I will always be on the bench about these sort of adaptations because whitewashing is something that can be avoided, is avoidable but they make almost no effort or very little effort trying to avoid it.

Anyway.... I spent 30mins trying to type or this shit out and my lunch is getting cold...

 

[Mussels]

maybe just enjoy it if its good, hate it if it sucks?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

maybe just enjoy it if its good, hate it if it sucks?

Spoken as a true asian

 

[kurosagi01]

There are a few flaws in your argument...

Im not sure if the live action of attack on titan was supposed to be for the 'big screen' but part of me doesnt think so as the director is 'Shinji Higuchi' who is a storyboard artist (or mangaka = manga artist) and 'SFX supervisor' who hasnt done that many movies while budget, both movies (part one and part two) cost them a total of $46million to make... Compare that to The Last Airbender which cost $150mil, or 'Doom' - $60mil though Doom is not from an asian background/concept but still a live action adaption as comparison. DBZ Evo on the other hand cost $60mil but that was because they used mainly new/unknown or small time actors who dont really care about huge pay packets so long as they get cast in a movie.

Attack on Titan was more or less something that started off as something of Japanese origin anyway so its a thin line between hiring Japanese actors and foreign actors to act out the movie. Knowing Japan, they would probably prefer to keep everything 'in house'.

DBZ EVO and The Last Airbender are perfect examples of white washing.... Lets not forget some of the more forgettable Tekken or some of the streetfighter movies. At least Legend Of Chun li tried by casting Kristin Kreuk who is half Chinese. NOT THE BEST CANDIDATE, but they tried.

All i see with GiTs movie is them taking something that's Japanese and 'Americanising' it with their adaptation... Its like, taking Snake Plissken from Escape from LA and putting him in Ireland or France or Antigua. The same jokes and stereotypes wont work any more and the reason why they worked was because they were in their country of origin.

There are many asian actors available to take on acting roles in big movies but Hollywood always complains that there is a lack of talent but they never want to or seem to want to reach out.


Donnie Yen is a great example -- Hollywood didnt give a fark about who he was till he started doing big kung fu movies. Now he's starred in big hollywood movies as well. Starwars: Rogue One, xXx: Return of Xander Cage (Its a terrible movie though)


So say what you want. I will always be on the bench about these sort of adaptations because whitewashing is something that can be avoided, is avoidable but they make almost no effort or very little effort trying to avoid it.

Anyway.... I spent 30mins trying to type or this shit out and my lunch is getting cold...

Well again its just my opinion,i'm just saying when it comes to characters that already existed and been designed to look and named based on a certain "origin" of country. Of course GITS is an example, Major Motoko Kusanagi is a japanese name which yes it should have been casted by a japanese actress and "Son Goku" which should technically been casted by a chinese or something but then white washing on both of these films and Airbender aswell. These things do indeed piss me off and i will still carry that thought when i do decide to watch this film next week.
I'm just saying with AOT with name of "Eren" and brown hair isn't exactly japanese origin,its like casting Edward Elric from full metal alchemist with blonde hair doesn't spark to me to be a japanese male.

Yeah i do agree white washing can be avoided but again AMERICAAAA.
OR just not do any live adaptations of any manga comics thats been turned into a anime show. Job done

 

[jormungand]

Lupin the third live action... Not so bad no so good but that Mine Fujiko...cmonnn!!! They could have a damn hot actress for that character at least.

 

[kurosagi01]

Ghost in shell live action flopped from all the articles i've seen which is to be expected..haven't watched it yet but may consider watching it this weekend to see how bad it is.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Ghost in shell live action flopped from all the articles i've seen which is to be expected..haven't watched it yet but may consider watching it this weekend to see how bad it is.

I think we all expected it would

 

[kurosagi01]

I think we all expected it would

Anime will always be niche market even with big names..finished gundam too bit disappointed with the finale but i can see a movie coming up for it.