Temperature Spikes Reported on Intel's Core i7-7700, i7-7700K Processors

[Vayra86]

What the f**k, what the actual f**k?! Really Intel? That's your response?

Shit man, I was on the fence of whether or not I would go Ryzen and this just made my decision easier. F**k off Intel.

Intel's just repeating their policy regarding the K CPU, its nothing new that going past specs will void warranty. It's much more interesting to see more data on this supposed issue than it is to flame Intel's response.

 

[r9]

Erhhh, what are you talking about?

If anything I sometimes get the feeling TPU is biased towards Nvidia. Overall though TPU is very fair, and in fact I would say they have become more fair lately.

I trust the TPU numbers. Draw my own conclusions.
I just can't believe that today year 2017 someone would build enthusiast machine based on quad core cpu.
For me Ryzen 1600/B350 is the way to go. Where you get most bang for you're buck.
And if someone have access to Microcenter they on and off offer $50 off when you bundle cpu+mb.
And Before rx580 was launched and Newegg were clearing stock from rx480, you could get one for $150 after rebate.
Ryzen 1600/B350/RX480 for $420 that was awesome combo.
With that money you can buy i7 7700k that's it.

 

[mcraygsx]

This response from INTEL really made my day. You are telling not to OC My K series CPU which was clearly marketed for overclockers.

"Intel responds to i7-7700K high temperate issue, tells owners they shouldn't overclock the chips"
"Intel says it found nothing wrong with the CPUs"

Source: http://www.techspot.com/news/69204-intel-responds-i7-7700k-high-temperate-issue-tells.html

 

[Captain_Tom]

Has anyone considered that this bug may be linked to the "Stuttering" problem I have seen several reviewers mention?

It could be that some defect/bug is making this thing spike in temperature, and then it throttles randomly and causes a brief framerate drop...

 

[Manu_PT]

Hate to break it to ya, but there is only one game engine in use right now that benefits from running at 240hz and that is CS GO, and even then, the benefit versus 120/160 fps is extremely minimal, and definitely NOT worth buying a different processor for, unless all you do is play CS GO - and in that case you have other problems to worry about IMO. Also, you may or may not have noticed, but CS:GO is just one of the most played games on STEAM. In the whole PC gaming market its just a tiny sliver of everything.

If you're actually convinced that 240hz gaming has any use whatsoever for any other game, you're completely deluded. 240hz is marketing for the full 100 %.

You are the typical guy in denial, that usually spams the side chat on a first person shooter making hackusations. Instead of accepting the fact that 240hz monitors and high fps make your aim WAY better. Only possible with aimbot isn´t it?

You are the one deluded. 240hz is the future of e-sports and running CS at 120fps is completly different from running it at 350. And is not only on CS. Same applies to overwatch, Doom, Quake Champions (now in closed beta stage), Battlefield (watch brekk1e playing on twitch and watch wich cpu he uses and his 200fps constant framerate and ask him why). You know next to nothing about competitive gaming.

CS GO is one of the most played games on PC for sure. Steam has the most active users in the PC world, you are full of BS there. Tell me about a first person shooter more played than CS GO on PC. Go on

I trust the TPU numbers. Draw my own conclusions.
I just can't believe that today year 2017 someone would build enthusiast machine based on quad core cpu.
For me Ryzen 1600/B350 is the way to go. Where you get most bang for you're buck.
And if someone have access to Microcenter they on and off offer $50 off when you bundle cpu+mb.
And Before rx580 was launched and Newegg were clearing stock from rx480, you could get one for $150 after rebate.
Ryzen 1600/B350/RX480 for $420 that was awesome combo.
With that money you can buy i7 7700k that's it.

Why wouldn´t we buy a quad core CPU if it provides more frames per second in games? If that person wants to PLAY GAMES, not do video production or whatever. The CPU could even have only 1 core, if it provided more framerates, that´s what gamers would buy. Period. Stop making excuses to defend a product over another one. Ryzen is a great CPU and it rapes Intel in many things. Intel rapes AMD in games, period, Doesn´t matter the core count.

 

[EarthDog]

Nope.

 

[Manu_PT]

Today was hoping to see an article about Valve ending key resellers websites like G2A or kinguin etc, but nothing appeared here. Talking about a non existant problem on a Intel chip is more important for TPU it seems

 

[nem..]

http://wccftech.com/intel-i7-7700k-owners-flood-forums-with-overheating-complaints/

 

[FR@NK]

No they aren't fine. That graph looks scary as fuck. CPU usage is steady at 100% while the temps spike.

Just because windows is reporting 100% CPU usage doesnt mean the processor core is being completely stressed at all times. The large data set is larger then what can fit in the cache so there will be some cycles when the execution units are waiting for data from system memory. You can easily test this yourself by running occt for 30 mins and comparing your temps graph to the ones in this post.

 

[nem..]

Core i7-7700K y Core i5-7600K Ultra, Pro and Advanced ,

https://www.caseking.de/search?sSearch=Core+i7-7700K+Ultra+@+5.10+GHz+
http://der8auer.com/

source; https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2017/05/core-i7-7700k-core-i5-7600k-ultra-pro-advanced-la-venta/

lol look how cheap are this

Core i7-7700K Ultra @ 5.10 GHz – 649.90 euros
Core i7-7700K Pro @ 4.90 GHz – 459.90 euros
Core i7-7700K Advanced @ 4.80 GHz – 439.90 euros

Core i5-7600K Ultra @ 5.20 GHz –439.90 euros
Core i5-7600K Pro @ 4.90 GHz – 289.90 euros
Core i5-7600K Advanced @ 4.80 GHz – 279.90 euros ..

 

[cadaveca]

"Intel responds to i7-7700K high temperate issue, tells owners they shouldn't overclock the chips"

Intel DID NOT say "do not OC"... they say it "wasn't recommended" (because weird things happen when you OC). There is a very specific difference in those two statements.

BTW, Intel warranties OC on their CPUs, but only if you purchase an additional warranty. you can do so here (7700K is $30):

https://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

So, if you OC, and your chip does not behave like you'd like, Intel will replace it for you, for a small fee. So they very much DO support OC, but they do not cover such issues directly related to cooling or temperatures, since this should be something that is assumed might be a problem, and should be dealt with by the end user buying a cooler capable of keeping the CPU at suitable temperatures. If a user is worried about temps, then they need to either get a better cooler, or back off the OC. That's it.

I cannot believe this is a news item. FFS, even I'm getting a bit tired of such posting that are kind of blowing things out of proportion, and at the least exaggerating things.

 

[EarthDog]

Intel DID NOT say "do not OC"... they say it "wasn't recommended" (because weird things happen when you OC). There is a very specific difference in those two statements.

BTW, Intel warranties OC on their CPUs, but only if you purchase an additional warranty. you can do so here (7700K is $30):

https://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

So, if you OC, and your chip does not behave like you'd like, Intel will replace it for you, for a small fee. So they very much DO support OC, but they do not cover such issues directly related to cooling or temperatures, since this should be something that is assumed might be a problem, and should be dealt with by the end user buying a cooler capable of keeping the CPU at suitable temperatures. If a user is worried about temps, then they need to either get a better cooler, or back off the OC. That's it.

I cannot believe this is a news item. FFS, even I'm getting a bit tired of such posting that are kind of blowing things out of proportion, and at the least exaggerating things.

Thanks isnt enough... QFT!!

 

[FireFox]

The 7700 and 7700k are not exactly "new" CPUs (meaning they have been available for a few months). Why haven't we heard of this before now?

Because none of you did something about it, while we at Intel community Forum complained and we even wrote/explained to a few known Forums our problem.

It's 3 months and a few days that we are fighting this war and finally something is happening.

 

[sergionography]

Intel DID NOT say "do not OC"... they say it "wasn't recommended" (because weird things happen when you OC). There is a very specific difference in those two statements.

BTW, Intel warranties OC on their CPUs, but only if you purchase an additional warranty. you can do so here (7700K is $30):

https://click.intel.com/tuningplan/

So, if you OC, and your chip does not behave like you'd like, Intel will replace it for you, for a small fee. So they very much DO support OC, but they do not cover such issues directly related to cooling or temperatures, since this should be something that is assumed might be a problem, and should be dealt with by the end user buying a cooler capable of keeping the CPU at suitable temperatures. If a user is worried about temps, then they need to either get a better cooler, or back off the OC. That's it.

I cannot believe this is a news item. FFS, even I'm getting a bit tired of such posting that are kind of blowing things out of proportion, and at the least exaggerating things.

So you mean to tell me they charge an extra 50 bucks for a K version and then 30 dollars if you actually wanna overclock? And if you arent pleased another small fee to replace it? GREAT!

 

[cadaveca]

So you mean to tell me they charge an extra 50 bucks for a K version and then 30 dollars if you actually wanna overclock? And if you arent pleased another small fee to replace it? GREAT!

There is not another small fee; the $30 covers the replacement. Anything that happens under OC is up to you; Intel only warranties "stock" operation (this does not include using XMP).

Frankly, I have no problem paying $30 to replace a dead chip from OC; it settles the karmic debt of trying to RMA something I knowingly broke. I actually wish AMD would offer the same, TBH, and I would talk about them doing so just as much as I have about Intel's Tuning Plan.

 

[R-T-B]

Maybe it's my overkill cooling, but I've never noticed any temp spikes and I regularly Prime95 stability test my chip with pretty much pure AVX/FMA3 instructions.

Not saying it's not an issue, but maybe it does not effect all chips, chipsets, or microcodes?

 

[FireFox]

Maybe it's my overkill cooling,

 

[R-T-B]

If you had a bunch of 3000RPM Sunon Maglevs blowing through your heatsinks (big Noctua ones too), what would you call it?

I literally keep my PC in another room because of the noise generated.

 

[biffzinker]

I literally keep my PC in another room because of the noise generated.

But then you don't have this beautiful but quiet running beast to look over at.

 

[R-T-B]

But then you don't this beautiful but quiet running beast to look over at.

Indeed, all I hear is the sweet sound of silence.

 

[FireFox]

Indeed, all I hear is the sweet sound of silence.

I don't hear anything because that's why i have headphones.

 

[zAAm]

What the f**k, what the actual f**k?! Really Intel? That's your response?

Shit man, I was on the fence of whether or not I would go Ryzen and this just made my decision easier. F**k off Intel.

I hate to admit it, but I do feel somewhat similar... Like this might just be the tiniest push needed to throw me off the fence into the Ryzen camp...

 

[EarthDog]

Lol, see ya!

 

[FireFox]

Core i7-7700K Ultra @ 5.10 GHz – 649.90 euros

Funny funny funny, 649€ just because it can be OC'ed 5.10, i sell you mine for 400€ 5.0ghz 1.31V

 

[EarthDog]

No different than...

https://siliconlottery.com

...in fact, its better binned.