What's on your hardware wish list ?

[cucker tarlson]

You're far better off just getting at least a 512GB SSD and put a 40 GB or so partition on it for the OS. The larger SSDs always have denser, faster Nand.

I was talking about buying a separate SSD for your HDD, you actually can't use an OS SSD to set up Smart Response.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I was talking about buying a separate SSD for your HDD, you actually can't use an OS SSD to set up Smart Response.

I know you were, I'm saying you're better off spending a bit more and getting a faster, larger SSD to both install OS and run progs and games. With the prices of SSDs these days, Smart Response is kinda old school. Most people seriously into PC performance are installing the OS on an SSD now, or even a NVMe type SSD.

As far as improving the performance of a HDD with Smart Response, I would again say HDDs now are dirt cheap too. You can get a pretty fast WD Black 6TB for like $215 brand new. Got mine about a year ago on a special deal for $230. Components are quickly changing in tech and price.

 

[StrayKAT]

I know you were, I'm saying you're better off spending a bit more and getting a faster, larger SSD to both install OS and run progs and games. With the prices of SSDs these days, Smart Response is kinda old school. Most people seriously into PC performance are installing the OS on an SSD now, or even a NVMe type SSD.

As far as improving the performance of a HDD with Smart Response, I would again say HDDs now are dirt cheap too. You can get a pretty fast WD Black 6TB for like $215 brand new. Got mine about a year ago on a special deal for $230. Components are quickly changing in tech and price.

The prices of SSDs still suck imo. And I'm not into performance so much as wanting lots of HDD space. Everyone's mileage will vary here, I guess.. but the scales are tipping for more storage for me. I'm not going to bother with SSDs again for some time, I think.

I also dislike just having an OS on SSD. I already do that, and I've run into problems. Windows makes it a pain in the ass to move the Program Files folder and Windows App store files off of the main drive (if you have any AAA games from there, it becomes noticeable).

If I can get fast loading times with just caching, I'm good.

 

[Laurijan]

I want a coffee

 

[EarthDog]

. I'm not going to bother with SSDs again for some time, I think.

wow... ill never go back to spinners except for cold storage.

Partition the drive and have your games load to it. Or back them up on another drive...steam amd origin does this. This way you can obliterate the os and not worry about apps.

You can also image your system on day0 once everything is installed and restore from the image... many better options that relgegating yourself to 10 years ago.

 

[StrayKAT]

wow... ill never go back to spinners except for cold storage.

Partition the drive and have your games load to it. Or back them up on another drive...steam amd origin does this. This way you can obliterate the os and not worry about apps.

You can also image your system on day0 once everything is installed and restore from the image... many better options that relgegating yourself to 10 years ago.

I don't have nearly enough SSD space for Steam. Just a 256 nvme. I had a 500gb SATA evo, but gave it to my dad (and even that would run out quick).

Anyways, all I'm doing now is dropping the "OS drive" idea and putting everything on one drive.. then cache.

10 years ago didn't have 50GB games either

 

[EarthDog]

I only install the games i generally play, only a few. So that helps with space management. Or, installl them, back them up to hdd, when you want to play restore the install. Way faster than DL and install. And you get your cake and eat it too.

 

[StrayKAT]

I only install the games i generally play, only a few. So that helps with space management. Or, installl them, back them up to hdd, when you want to play restore the install. Way faster than DL and install.

Yeah, I was doing that for awhile.. but it got frustrating. There's also many I'd like to keep on longterm (sandboxes, sports, MP games).

There are a few SATA SSDs in the 2TB range I could live with (but still smaller than I'd like). If they got a little cheaper, I'd go for that (Sandisk/WD Blue, the newer Crucials). They're over $500 atm.

 

[Ahhzz]

I don't have nearly enough SSD space for Steam. Just a 256 nvme. I had a 500gb SATA evo, but gave it to my dad (and even that would run out quick).

Anyways, all I'm doing now is dropping the "OS drive" idea and putting everything on one drive.. then cache.

10 years ago didn't have 50GB games either

I'm with you. I have several applications and photos/videos on my computer, and all the games these days take SO much space to install. I'm prone to dropping in on about 10 different games on a semi-regular basis, playing 2 or 3 all the time (currently BDO, TW:Warhammer, and Idle Champions, with a side of DOS2) and several others on a "light" basis. I couldn't fit into a 500Gb drive easily, and I absolutely can't afford anything that high on my current budget anyway.

 

[StrayKAT]

I'm with you. I have several applications and photos/videos on my computer, and all the games these days take SO much space to install. I'm prone to dropping in on about 10 different games on a semi-regular basis, playing 2 or 3 all the time (currently BDO, TW:Warhammer, and Idle Champions, with a side of DOS2) and several others on a "light" basis. I couldn't fit into a 500Gb drive easily, and I absolutely can't afford anything that high on my current budget anyway.

I see you have Star Citizen in your sig too. Apparently it's going to be 100gb lol.

 

[Ahhzz]

I see you have Star Citizen in your sig too. Apparently it's going to be 100gb lol.

Yeah, between that, Elite, and My Massive Epee...err... Skyrim Install, I meant, I have a lot of "Game" on my computer

 

[EarthDog]

You kids play too many games.

I wish I had that much time in my life to do it again!

 

[Shambles1980]

wish-list is something like 1700 ryzen cpu and a decent board to go with it. a 24" 16:10 monitor some where around 75hz. and a 980ti.
some ram wouldn't hurt i guess like 16gb..
Throw in like 2-3 2tb wd red drives. some of those snazzy bootable m.2 512gb or so (just a couple) and maybe one 1tb SSD just incase..

that would keep me happy for a while

What il probably end up with however is my same old system, possibly getting the monitor.

 

[StrayKAT]

You kids play too many games.

I wish I had that much time in my life to do it again!

Sad thing is... I'm old.

I just don't have a family to wear me out

 

[Ahhzz]

Sad thing is... I'm old.

I just don't have a family to wear me out

Sadder thing is I'm that old, and have the family to wear me out hence the long list of games I want to play, but will never get around to

 

[cucker tarlson]

I see you have Star Citizen in your sig too. Apparently it's going to be 100gb lol.

lol I just claimed my GoW4 code I recieved back in november 2016 with my GTX1080, I forgot about it completely. Ppl say it's a rad game but the installation says a freaking 121GB Downloading as we speak, will share my thoughts of the game next year

 

[Rogge]

I want an entirely new computer. Be it AMD or Intel based, I want (well, need) a new system..

 

[StrayKAT]

lol I just claimed my GoW4 code I recieved back in november 2016 with my GTX1080, I forgot about it completely. Ppl say it's a rad game but the installation says a freaking 121GB Downloading as we speak, will share my thoughts of the game next year

Damn, didn't know that was large too. I had planned on getting it sometime.

 

[Shambles1980]

everything is ridiculously large these days.. I remember when 4 floppy's for a single install was Massive lol.
121gb would be like 80 thousand floppys

 

[Dimi]

I really want to upgrade to an i7 8700K from my 4770K. Unless i can hold off on waiting for Cannon Lake for maybe 8 cores.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

@ StrayKAT,
honestly, SSDs are so easy to use as OS drives now you don't really see people having issues with them anymore. You're the first I've seen say they're a hassle to use since before the controllers got consistently good on them.

The bottom line is, whether you're looking for storage or not, drive performance is why people use Smart Response, so that was the topic we were discussing, and a 500+Mb/s boot drive SSD is about the best way to speed up OS and program response time.

That isn't to say storage space at a decent price isn't a good option too, they're just different subjects. That said, I DO feel $215 for a 6TB HDD that performs as well as the WD Black is quite a good deal. That's less than $36 a TB.

 

[Vayra86]

Well, they're making a more single player oriented version as well, called Squadron 42. It will probably be smaller, but I doubt it'll be any smaller than these other big games (50gb). I have to try it, as I'm a Wing Commander fan and these are the creator's first games in years.

I'm not sure why Skyrim is so much smaller. I guess since it's a 2011 game, with fairly non-realistic textures, it slims it down a bit. They've upscaled the resolution in the HD pack and in SE, but not done much to enhance the detail or meshes. So maybe that's what still keeps the size down. I've also heard the audio is compressed, so that makes it smaller.

Low-res texturing, ingame engine cutscenes, limited soundtrack and FX.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Damn, didn't know that was large too. I had planned on getting it sometime.

I started downloading it but after several hours my download just reset to 0%. Googled it and apparently this is an issue many ppl seem to be getting with GoW4 and many other windows store games, so I'm not going to bother. What a piece of trash windows store is.

 

[StrayKAT]

I started downloading it but after several hours my download just reset to 0%. Googled it and apparently this is an issue many ppl seem to be getting with GoW4 and many other windows store games, so I'm not going to bother. What a piece of trash windows store is.

Huh. I've never had that issue, but never downloaded something as large yet. I think the biggest was ReCore and one of the Forzas.

I reinstalled Windows on HDD with the blank nvme and IRST still doesn't see it. Oh well. I'll just use Optane then.

I almost have enough for another PC... I already have another z270 board. Just need a spare CPU and HDD (and will use that nvme there). I guess I'll put that on my wishlist too.

 

[EarthDog]

How about filling out system specs there Stray...