Xeon Owners Club

er557 · Jan 3, 2018

I know the warm and fuzzy feeling you get in your belly, looking at dual socket info apps...

Zyll Goliat · Jan 3, 2018

er557 said:
Yet I doubt the 1366 xeons might be able to max out titan v or even 1080 sli, i.e. they may be ok now but certainly not future proof, one might need to upgrade sooner or later. And today's trend toward dx12 and multi core aware gaming, six cores isn't HEDT anymore. Certainly skylake-e and threadripper changed the scene

Well properly OC X58 Xeon is still somewhere close to the (stocked)Ryzen single core performance......so it´s fine even for High-End GPU like 1080 TI of course it will "bottleneck" a bit(probably 5-10%)compared to the 8700K or 7700K but thats still good enough for many years to come.......

er557 · Jan 3, 2018

or at least till the used and battered capacitors on the motherboards from 2009 will give way...

lexluthermiester · Jan 3, 2018

er557 said:
Yet I doubt the 1366 xeons might be able to max out titan v or even 1080 sli, i.e. they may be ok now but certainly not future proof, one might need to upgrade sooner or later. And today's trend toward dx12 and multi core aware gaming, six cores isn't HEDT anymore. Certainly skylake-e and threadripper changed the scene

SLI isn't really in play here, given the motherboard natr0n bought. A 1080 is getting to the bottle-necking point even on more modern systems with some games, but again he's likely not matching it up with a 1080. When I decide on a board for my Xeon's, my old gtx770 is going in that system, unless I turn it into my main system. Been thinking of selling my 5820k.. As for the TitanV, it's a non-runner as it is not a gaming card. NVidia is flat out stated that it isn't focused on gaming with that product. It really doesn't even benchmark all that well for the price. Who would buy a $3000+ video card to stick it on an older dual 1366 system? A 1070 or 1080? Ok, that's doable. And when it comes to gaming, 6 cores is still competitive. With dual 6 core's, he going to have a good system for at least 24 months. That is excellent bang for buck in anyone's book.

er557 said:
or at least till the used and battered capacitors on the motherboards from 2009 will give way...

natr0n posted what board he's getting in post #3423. It's Gigabyte board with all solid-state caps, no electrolytics. Those caps will likely out-live everyone in this discussion.

@natr0n
What video card are you going with and what's the cooling solution you're going with?

natr0n · Jan 3, 2018

Some of us focus on fun and being positive. If you think negative you will attract problems.

I have boards from 2006 still running mint with no issues. Swapping caps isn't hard if need be.

er557 · Jan 4, 2018

I also might sell my 5820k, though being quite dated I dont know it's value. BTW, I also keep an x58 system with i7 965xe, running gtx 780 ti sli, in tandem with my main system, for compatiblity to games that dont run on xeons or as a backup system.

natr0n · Jan 4, 2018

lexluthermiester said:
SLI isn't really in play here, given the motherboard natr0n bought. A 1080 is getting to the bottle-necking point even on more modern systems with some games, but again he's likely not matching it up with a 1080. When I decide on a board for my Xeon's, my old gtx770 is going in that system, unless I turn it into my main system. Been thinking of selling my 5820k.. As for the TitanV, it's a non-runner as it is not a gaming card. NVidia is flat out stated that it isn't focused on gaming with that product. It really doesn't even benchmark all that well for the price. Who would buy a $3000+ video card to stick it on an older dual 1366 system? A 1070 or 1080? Ok, that's doable. And when it comes to gaming, 6 cores is still competitive. With dual 6 core's, he going to have a good system for at least 24 months. That is excellent bang for buck in anyone's book.

natr0n posted what board he's getting in post #3423. It's Gigabyte board with all solid-state caps, no electrolytics. Those caps will likely out-live everyone in this discussion.

@natr0n
What video card are you going with and what's the cooling solution you're going with?

I will reuse my 7970 for now. Will get some fancy nvidia card soon. As for cooling still looking. Want something nickel platted for sure though.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856026
The board does come with heatsinks which I can mount some fans to test.

lexluthermiester · Jan 4, 2018

er557 said:
for compatibility to games that don't run on xeons

What games are you referring to? I haven't experienced any that won't run on mine, but then again my library is made up of a limit selection. But even the old socket 771 Xeons all ran great.

Good grief, I was just reminded of my very first Xeon system. Could only afford one CPU for it though, which was ok cause I didn't want to run NT. It was a P3Xeon 600 w/1024k L2 OC'd to 672mhz on an Asus XG-DLS Slot 2 board. That was a gaming monster for the time. Never had any gaming problems on that system either.

natr0n said:
I will reuse my 7970 for now. Will get some fancy nvidia card soon. As for cooling still looking. Want something nickel platted for sure though.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856026
The board does come with heatsinks which I can mount some fans to test.

That's a good card! Also good selection of heatsinks for those X5675's. I have a pair of CoolerMaster Geminii S524's ( http://www.coolermaster.com/cooling/cpu-air-cooler/geminii-s524/ ) that I'm thinking of pairing up with mine. Since I already have an X5680, gonna get another instead of using the X5650's.

EDIT; Thinking of going with a version of that board you linked that is without the SAS controller, GA-7TESM1( http://b2b.gigabyte.com/Server-Motherboard/GA-7TESM1-rev-10#ov ), as I have no intention of using SAS drives.

phill · Jan 4, 2018

Knoxx29 said:
First of all don't write the word AMD besides Intel or The other way around it sounds horrible.

That word it is forbidden in this Thread

I'm not CPU ist so I don't mind either!!

lol

But still, I do agree with the thread so far that the X58 is still a chipset to be reckoned with.. The performance isn't that bad for the age of the CPU/chipset. I do however believe that anything Sandy Bridge or above is probably a lot better for performance/efficiency

A 920 @ 4.5Ghz is about the same performance in a few gaming benchmarks I did as a stock clocked 4770k.. But I'm thinking it'll use a little bit less power...

I'm still trying to find a Sandy Bridge dual CPU setup, be it rack based or just as a workstation/desktop rig.. I'd like to have a play with the hardware and do the usual power tests and what not...

er557 · Jan 4, 2018

@lexluthermiester : far cry 4, far cry primal, far cry 3, far cry 3 blood dragon; all of those for starters crash when they see more than 12 threads, that by itself is enough reason to maintain the backup system, if you dont want to select only four cpus in msconfig and reboot each time. Some other games are easily fixed by running with 8 affinity or some other affinity via right click shortcut.

lexluthermiester · Jan 4, 2018

er557 said:
@lexluthermiester : far cry 4, far cry primal, far cry 3, far cry 3 blood dragon; all of those for starters crash when they see more than 12 threads, that by itself is enough reason to maintain the backup system, if you dont want to select only four cpus in msconfig and reboot each time. Some other games are easily fixed by running with 8 affinity or some other affinity via right click shortcut.

Ah ok. Gonna have to try one of those and see if there might be a fix. At least Blood Dragon. Been wanting to play that one. Not interested in the others.

Zyll Goliat · Jan 5, 2018

In case you are interested how latest controversial security patch can impact yours beloved X58 Xeons check this video:

natr0n · Jan 5, 2018

Need to get a proper PSU. Other than that everything works well.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jan 5, 2018

Zyll Goliath said:
In case you are interested how latest controversial security patch can have on yours beloved X58 Xeons check this video:

I have no concerns on performance but that guy in the vid wrote off his own tests with the os wipe imho and should have tried prepatch on another fresh install, a fresh install makes it's own difference no??

lexluthermiester · Jan 5, 2018

natr0n said:
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Need to get a proper PSU. Other than that everything works well.

This is the PSU that I've been giving serious consideration to.
https://www.amazon.com/ROSEWILL-Gaming-Certified-Control-Warranty/dp/B00N2KAOW4
It has both of the 8pin EPS power connectors needed, has more than enough wattage to power both those CPU's and any video card you give it. With the X5675's being lower power requirement parts, you could get away with the 750W model at $75, but it seems better to have more power headroom.

Edwired · Jan 5, 2018

It mad how the intel is supposed to be secured in software and hardware but knowing the outbreak of the hack affecting the performance between 5 to 30 percent. My question is how far back of the processors list since 478 socket to now is affected is what i like to hear since they stated intel processors dated 10 years back is affected but what list of cpu has this problem?

Zyll Goliat · Jan 5, 2018

Edwired said:
It mad how the intel is supposed to be secured in software and hardware but knowing the outbreak of the hack affecting the performance between 5 to 30 percent. My question is how far back of the processors list since 478 socket to now is affected is what i like to hear since they stated intel processors dated 10 years back is affected but what list of cpu has this problem?

As I know it can affect Intel processors manufactured since 1995, excluding the company’s Itanium server chips and Atom processors before 2013...

agent_x007 · Jan 5, 2018

Edwired said:
It mad how the intel is supposed to be secured in software and hardware but knowing the outbreak of the hack affecting the performance between 5 to 30 percent. My question is how far back of the processors list since 478 socket to now is affected is what i like to hear since they stated intel processors dated 10 years back is affected but what list of cpu has this problem?

Spectre (all variations combined) : All Out of Order CPUs.
Meltdown* : All Core i series CPUs from 45nm and newer.

*LGA 775 and older are "OK" (probably). Source - LINK (FAQ : Show more, second from bottom)
^However it is NOT confirmed (they simply aren't listed).

jaggerwild · Jan 5, 2018

Nice setup Natron!
You gonna use it for daily or you making a miner or?

lexluthermiester · Jan 5, 2018

Hey folks, just saw the following and thought you might enjoy.

His channel is full of fun stuff, so give him a like and sub if you enjoy it.

natr0n · Jan 6, 2018

jaggerwild said:
Nice setup Natron!
You gonna use it for daily or you making a miner or?

Daily

FireFox · Jan 6, 2018

lexluthermiester said:
Hey folks, just saw the following and thought you might enjoy.

His channel is full of fun stuff, so give him a like and sub if you enjoy it.

Time ago i had a 2670

lexluthermiester · Jan 6, 2018

Knoxx29 said:
Time ago i had a 2670

Those are damn good chips. Why'd you get rid of it?

FireFox · Jan 6, 2018

lexluthermiester said:
Those are damn good chips. Why'd you get rid of it?

Not overclockable as the X56xx serie

cmoneytheman · Jan 6, 2018

So i gota got monster 3930k 3 years ago but I just bought a 2660 v2 cores yesterday will i have any game trouble people always say single threaded games run bad on xeons my gpu is 1080

System Name	future xeon II
Processor	DUAL SOCKET xeon e5 2686 v3 , 36c/72t, hacked all cores @3.5ghz, TDP limit hacked
Motherboard	asrock rack ep2c612 ws
Cooling	case fans,liquid corsair h100iv2 x2
Memory	96 gb ddr4 2133mhz gskill+corsair
Video Card(s)	2x 1080 sc acx3 SLI, @STOCK
Storage	Hp ex950 2tb nvme+ adata xpg sx8200 pro 1tb nvme+ sata ssd's+ spinners
Display(s)	philips 40" bdm4065uc 4k @60
Case	silverstone temjin tj07-b
Audio Device(s)	sb Z
Power Supply	corsair hx1200i
Mouse	corsair m95 16 buttons
Keyboard	microsoft internet keyboard pro
Software	windows 10 x64 1903 ,enterprise
Benchmark Scores	fire strike ultra- 10k time spy- 15k cpu z- 400/15000

System Name	Minotaur
Processor	Intel I9 7940X
Motherboard	Asus Strix Rog Gaming E X299
Cooling	BeQuiet/ double-Fan
Memory	192Gb of RAM DDR4 2400Mhz
Video Card(s)	1)RX 6900XT BIOSTAR 16Gb***2)MATROX M9120LP
Storage	2 x ssd-Kingston 240Gb A400 in RAID 0+ HDD 500Gb +Samsung 128gbSSD +SSD Kinston 480Gb
Display(s)	BenQ 28"EL2870U(4K-HDR) / Acer 24"(1080P) / Eizo 2336W(1080p) / 2x Eizo 19"(1280x1024)
Case	NZXT H5 Flow
Audio Device(s)	Realtek/Creative T20 Speakers
Power Supply	F S P Hyper S 700W
Mouse	Asus TUF-GAMING M3
Keyboard	Func FUNC-KB-460/Mechanical Keyboard
VR HMD	Oculus Rift DK2
Software	Win 11
Benchmark Scores	Fire Strike=23905,Cinebench R15=3167,Cinebench R20=7490.Passmark=30689,Geekbench4=32885

System Name	future xeon II
Processor	DUAL SOCKET xeon e5 2686 v3 , 36c/72t, hacked all cores @3.5ghz, TDP limit hacked
Motherboard	asrock rack ep2c612 ws
Cooling	case fans,liquid corsair h100iv2 x2
Memory	96 gb ddr4 2133mhz gskill+corsair
Video Card(s)	2x 1080 sc acx3 SLI, @STOCK
Storage	Hp ex950 2tb nvme+ adata xpg sx8200 pro 1tb nvme+ sata ssd's+ spinners
Display(s)	philips 40" bdm4065uc 4k @60
Case	silverstone temjin tj07-b
Audio Device(s)	sb Z
Power Supply	corsair hx1200i
Mouse	corsair m95 16 buttons
Keyboard	microsoft internet keyboard pro
Software	windows 10 x64 1903 ,enterprise
Benchmark Scores	fire strike ultra- 10k time spy- 15k cpu z- 400/15000

System Name	natr0n-PC
Processor	Ryzen 5950x-5600x \| 9600k
Motherboard	B450 AORUS M \| Z390 UD
Cooling	EK AIO 360 - 6 fan action \| AIO
Memory	Patriot - Viper Steel DDR4 (B-Die)(4x8GB) \| Samsung DDR4 (4x8GB)
Video Card(s)	EVGA 3070ti FTW
Storage	Various
Display(s)	Pixio PX279 Prime
Case	Thermaltake Level 20 VT \| Black bench
Audio Device(s)	LOXJIE D10 + Kinter Amp + 6 Bookshelf Speakers Sony+JVC+Sony
Power Supply	Super Flower Leadex III ARGB 80+ Gold 650W \| EVGA 700 Gold
Software	XP/7/8.1/10
Benchmark Scores	http://valid.x86.fr/79kuh6

System Name	future xeon II
Processor	DUAL SOCKET xeon e5 2686 v3 , 36c/72t, hacked all cores @3.5ghz, TDP limit hacked
Motherboard	asrock rack ep2c612 ws
Cooling	case fans,liquid corsair h100iv2 x2
Memory	96 gb ddr4 2133mhz gskill+corsair
Video Card(s)	2x 1080 sc acx3 SLI, @STOCK
Storage	Hp ex950 2tb nvme+ adata xpg sx8200 pro 1tb nvme+ sata ssd's+ spinners
Display(s)	philips 40" bdm4065uc 4k @60
Case	silverstone temjin tj07-b
Audio Device(s)	sb Z
Power Supply	corsair hx1200i
Mouse	corsair m95 16 buttons
Keyboard	microsoft internet keyboard pro
Software	windows 10 x64 1903 ,enterprise
Benchmark Scores	fire strike ultra- 10k time spy- 15k cpu z- 400/15000

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System Name	Not so complete or overkill - There are others!! Just no room to put! :D
Processor	Ryzen Threadripper 3970X
Motherboard	Asus Zenith 2 Extreme Alpha
Cooling	Lots!! Dual GTX 560 rads with D5 pumps for each rad. One rad for each component
Memory	Viper Steel 4 x 16GB DDR4 3600MHz not sure on the timings... Probably still at 2667!! :(
Video Card(s)	Asus Strix 3090 with front and rear active full cover water blocks
Storage	I'm bound to forget something here - 250GB OS, 2 x 1TB NVME, 2 x 1TB SSD, 4TB SSD, 2 x 8TB HD etc...
Display(s)	3 x Dell 27" S2721DGFA @ 7680 x 1440P @ 144Hz or 165Hz - working on it!!
Case	The big Thermaltake that looks like a Case Mods
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	EVGA 1600W T2
Mouse	Corsair thingy
Keyboard	Razer something or other....
VR HMD	No headset yet
Software	Windows 11 OS... Not a fan!!
Benchmark Scores	I've actually never benched it!! Too busy with WCG and FAH and not gaming! :( :( Not OC'd it!! :(

System Name	RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II
Processor	Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H
Motherboard	Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus
Cooling	360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK
Memory	Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB
Video Card(s)	Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060
Storage	Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme
Display(s)	Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter
Case	Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2
Audio Device(s)	Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset
Power Supply	corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock
Mouse	Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless
Keyboard	Roccat Aimo 120
VR HMD	Oculus rift
Software	Win 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506

System Name	The Blind Grim Reaper
Processor	Xeon X5675 Westmere-EP B1 SLBYL 4.20ghz @ 1.256v
Motherboard	Asus P6X58D-E
Cooling	Noctua CP12 SE14, Redux Noctua 1500rpm fan Arctic F14 x3 for intake and exhaust
Memory	Corsair XMS3 CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 x6
Video Card(s)	EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC Single Fan Model
Storage	Crucial mx300 750gb main system + 1TB mx500 for games and music
Display(s)	22 inch samsung curved
Case	NZXT Phantom 530 black
Audio Device(s)	Nvidia HDMI through HDMI adaptor for output sound for turtlebeach x12 headset
Power Supply	Antec HCG 850 watt
Mouse	no brand
Keyboard	normal usb keyboard
Software	Windows 10 22H2 v1 (main is) and Windows 11 22H2 v2 on WD 250gb 7200rpm (testing purposes os)
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R20 = 2046cb

System Name	BOX
Processor	Core i7 6950X @ 4,26GHz (1,28V)
Motherboard	X99 SOC Champion (BIOS F23c + bifurcation mod)
Cooling	Thermalright Venomous-X + 2x Delta 38mm PWM (Push-Pull)
Memory	Patriot Viper Steel 4000MHz CL16 4x8GB (@3240MHz CL12.12.12.24 CR2T @ 1,48V)
Video Card(s)	Titan V (~1650MHz @ 0.77V, HBM2 1GHz, Forced P2 state [OFF])
Storage	WD SN850X 2TB + Samsung EVO 2TB (SATA) + Seagate Exos X20 20TB (4Kn mode)
Display(s)	LG 27GP950-B
Case	Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL
Audio Device(s)	Motu M4 (audio interface) + ATH-A900Z + Behringer C-1
Power Supply	Seasonic X-760 (760W)
Mouse	Logitech RX-250
Keyboard	HP KB-9970
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64

Processor	5930K
Motherboard	MSI X99 SLI
Cooling	WATER
Memory	16GB DDR4 2132
Video Card(s)	EVGAY 2070 SUPER
Storage	SEVERAL SSD"S
Display(s)	Catleap/Yamakasi 2560X1440
Case	D Frame MINI drilled out
Audio Device(s)	onboard
Power Supply	Corsair TX750
Mouse	DEATH ADDER
Keyboard	Razer Black Widow Tournament
Software	W10HB
Benchmark Scores	PhIlLyChEeSeStEaK

Processor	Intel i7 10700K
Motherboard	Asus ROG Maximus XII Hero
Cooling	2x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 480 - 1x Black Ice Nemesis GTX 420 - D5 VPP655P - 13x Corsair LL120 - LL140
Memory	32GB G.SKILL Trident Z RGB 3600Hz
Video Card(s)	EVGA GEFORCE RTX 3080 XC3 Ultra
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 500GB/1TB - WD Blue SN550 1TB - 2 X WD Blue 1TB - 3 X WD Black 1TB
Display(s)	Asus ROG PG278QR 2560x1440 144Hz (Overclocked 165Hz )/ Samsung
Case	Corsair Obsidian 1000D
Audio Device(s)	I prefer Gaming-Headset
Power Supply	Enermax MaxTytan 1250W 80+ Titanium
Mouse	Logitech G502 spectrum
Keyboard	Virtuis Advanced Gaming Keyboard ( Batboard )
Software	Windows 10 Enterprise/Windows 10 Pro/Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	My PC runs FiFA