Xeon Owners Club

[phill]

I was thinking that air cooling might have been a better option??...

It is not difficult to find, money makes things easier.

Money is definitely the issue... Having none makes it very difficult lol

 

[FireFox]

Having none makes it very difficult lol

Be faithful, Everything will be better this Year.

 

[phill]

I sure hope so I'm hoping for a little pay rise at some point, it'll make all the difference!! Plus a few extra servers would be nice if I can manage it lol

 

[lexluthermiester]

Of course you'd be better off with some newer generation xeons

Why? When an X5650[2.66ghz] performs within 30% of a current gen i5 or Ryzen5 in some benchmarks, a pair of X5675's[3.06ghz] are going to render performance in excess of even brand new platforms. For the price being paid, he's getting a serious bargain and will get great value from this system he's putting together. Sure newer Xeons will perform better, but at what cost? The E5's are still fetching a premium price and a dual socket mobo to match? Forget it. For the money, 1366 right now is in a golden sweet spot.

BTW, I hope they are same stepping and identical

The picture posted showed that..

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

For the money, 1366 right now is in a golden sweet spot.

Nail ...........Head

 

[EarthDog]

I should sig that... you two are hilarious!!!

 

[FireFox]

I should sig that... you two are hilarious!!!

I knew it you were going to say something i was just waiting for it

 

[er557]

I really do hope they are not going to break some performance of the entire lineup with this new VT vulnerability kernel patch, it may hurt performance even down to socket 1366, a.k.a. golden sweet spot...
I already seem to lose a few percent performance due to windows updates, kernel patches etc., but not 100% sure of the cause, could be enabling NUMA and balanced power scheme instead of max performance

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

I should sig that... you two are hilarious!!!

sitting here chuckling.....

 

[lexluthermiester]

VT vulnerability kernel patch, it may hurt performance even down to socket 1366

Except that the ME tech isn't present on the 1366 platforms.
EDIT; At least AFAIK.. Someone correct me if I'm wrong..

 

[FireFox]

Every Thread has been infected with this Intel CPU Hardware Vulnerability LMAO

 

[er557]

Except that the ME tech isn't present on the 1366 platforms.
EDIT; At least AFAIK.. Someone correct me if I'm wrong..

Yeah, I'm not talking about ME issue, it's a new VM issue affecting ALL intel cpus, the fix of which might degrade performance

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yeah, I'm not talking about ME issue, it's a new VM issue affecting ALL intel cpus, the fix of which might degrade performance

Oh right! My bad. Only read about it briefly. The easiest solution is to disable virtualization in bios/uefi. At that point any VM that runs must run completely in software sand-boxed mode. At least that's the way it was presented. Do you have a link? Can't remember where I read about it.

Every Thread has been infected with this Intel CPU Hardware Vulnerability LMAO

To be fair, it is a very serious problem, not to be taken lightly.

 

[er557]

Sure, head over to front page news here on TPU, several articles already surfaced

 

[FireFox]

Oh right! My bad. Only read about it briefly. The easiest solution is to disable virtualization in bios/uefi. At that point any VM that runs must run completely in software sand-boxed mode. At least that's the way it was presented. Do you have a link? Can't remember where I read about it.

To be fair, it is a very serious problem, not to be taken lightly.

Serious?

I am not worried at all, @P4-630 pointed me to a link that makes thing very clear to me, when Intel itself releases any news about the matter and confirm that every single user and it doesn't matter what they use the Machine for will be affected then and maybe i will worry.

Note: I dont know if all this Hardware Vulnerability apply for Intel futures CPU's

Edit: This is the Xeon Owners Club and not the Intel CPU Hardware Vulnerability Club

 

[EarthDog]

I knew it you were going to say something i was just waiting for it

Oh, there is more to say, I disagree 100% with that assertion in fact... but hey, they are passionate and you can't take that away. I would have to see some numbers to believe it... and even then, unless I didn't have a choice ($), I wouldn't do it. Tough to move forward being stuck in the past!

 

[er557]

They are the "1366 preachers", "stuck" in a socket long forgotten from history... It's just like blaming someone to still love the beatles...

 

[FireFox]

Oh, there is more to say, I disagree 100% with that assertion in fact... but hey, they are passionate and you can't take that away. I would have to see some numbers to believe it... and even then, unless I didn't have a choice ($), I wouldn't do it. Tough to move forward being stuck in the past!

Many people still drive their Mustang, Harley Davidson or Cadillac from the 60s and some other still have/use their Radio Cassette Player, i have a few old Xeon Machines but hey as you said you can't take that away, we are passionate/enthusiast, what i can do with my 8700K this Guys Xeons Owners can do the same.

Note: With the Money that you spend buying a 8700K you can build a Xeon Machine.

 

[phill]

I like all my machines, Xeon, Intel or AMD.. I'm looking forward to trying the AMD server CPU's if I can get some but I'm looking about for some R720 servers, hopefully for some efficient crunching That and another place to host a backup of my main server

Everything has a use if you want it too...

 

[lexluthermiester]

Sure, head over to front page news here on TPU, several articles already surfaced

Wow, didn't see that yet..

Edit: This is the Xeon Owners Club and not the Intel CPU Hardware Vulnerability Club

Good point, shutting up about it..

Oh, there is more to say, I disagree 100% with that assertion in fact... but hey, they are passionate and you can't take that away. I would have to see some numbers to believe it... and even then, unless I didn't have a choice ($), I wouldn't do it. Tough to move forward being stuck in the past!

They are the "1366 preachers", "stuck" in a socket long forgotten from history...

I own a 2011 CPU, 5820K, so hardly stuck to far in the past. Thing is, I have several 1366 Xeons and they benchmark very well in comparison. Why let go of something that is still useful and performs at a level that is still relevant to current market offerings? What's wrong with that? And why would you try to vilify it?

It's just like blaming someone to still love the beatles...

Really? Comparing technology to music is just silly. One is a tool, the other an art form. There is no comparing them even remotely.

 

[FireFox]

Intel or AMD

First of all don't write the word AMD besides Intel or The other way around it sounds horrible.

AMD

That word it is forbidden in this Thread

 

[EarthDog]

They are the "1366 preachers", "stuck" in a socket long forgotten from history... It's just like blaming someone to still love the beatles...

Ehh, I like the Beatles and just went to a marathon where they played all the albums consecutively (I got the tix free, lol).

Anyway, it was a great 'hedt' CPU at the time, but, its time is long gone for most people as it just puts a cap on performance in a lot of cases.

I own a 2011 CPU, 5820K, so hardly stuck to far in the past. Thing is, I have several 1366 Xeons and they benchmark very well in comparison. Why let go of something that is still useful and performs at a level that is still relevant to current market offerings? What's wrong with that? And why would you try to vilify it?

I was talking about your comment RE: s1366 being sweetspot for anything these days. I don't buy it, just would need numbers to do so. We've seen mangy core s1366 (xeon cpus to stay on topic, LOL), that get smoked by a used 6th gens with notably less threads.

Anyhoo...I digress.

 

[FireFox]

"stuck" in a socket long forgotten from history.

Really?

I can see that is the reason why many people are still using Xeon Machines - X58/1366 Go and google 1366 or X58 and let me know how many Threads you find on the Web about it and in this Forum we have just this Thread about Xeon but go and take a look at Overclock.net you will be surprised.

I guess @EarthDog knows something about it.

 

[Edwired]

Well every just pointing out a test on the intel diagnostic tool it failed spbc even had a read in the result in a text pad it states my xeon E5450 is a sample should i be worried or carry on using it like nothing happened

 

[lexluthermiester]

I don't buy it, just would need numbers to do so.

They're not expensive. So you can either, A, take our word for it and accept that they are a good value right now, or B, Buy one and test for yourself. It's that simple. Otherwise, it seems like you're just trolling.

Well every just pointing out a test on the intel diagnostic tool it failed spbc even had a read in the result in a text pad it states my xeon E5450 is a sample should i be worried or carry on using it like nothing happened

If I understand what you're saying, you should be fine. Carry on.