Xeon Owners Club

[phill]

Sorry Durvelle, what was the question and things that you are trying to do?

 

[Durvelle27]

Sorry Durvelle, what was the question and things that you are trying to do?

I posted them above

gaming
streaming
rendering/editing
etc...

 

[phill]

From what I remember a friend doing, he had a couple 480's I think at the time, he had a low clocked 8 core Xeon but I think the problem was the low clock speed hurt the experience I think.. It would be fine I think for rendering and work loads, but gaming I think it might hinder your performance rather than boost it. If only they made Xeons and motherboards like the SR2 and X56xx range...

 

[repman244]

I'm planing of upgrading my current 3930k to a Xeon E5 1680 V2 CPU which I can get for around 650€ (used of course), it's one of those rare unlocked Xeons.
My current board does support it so I would only swap the CPU - power I don't think will be a problem due to better binning of the Xeon and based on other peoples experience they clock extremely well.

So I would gain some single core performance and better multithread performance but I would like a second opinion. Is it worth upgrading or would it be better to switch to a new platform (more costly option due to need of a new mobo and RAM)?

The unlocked 6 core versions are much cheaper but that would not give me any multithread performance advantage compared to what I have now.

 

[Durvelle27]

From what I remember a friend doing, he had a couple 480's I think at the time, he had a low clocked 8 core Xeon but I think the problem was the low clock speed hurt the experience I think.. It would be fine I think for rendering and work loads, but gaming I think it might hinder your performance rather than boost it. If only they made Xeons and motherboards like the SR2 and X56xx range...

IPC is more important than clover speed though

 

[phill]

Might be so, but when a friend tried it, it just never had the throughput of clock speed.. It lagged a bit at 1080P, I'm guessing at higher resolutions such as 1440P or 4k ...

 

[Durvelle27]

Might be so, but when a friend tried it, it just never had the throughput of clock speed.. It lagged a bit at 1080P, I'm guessing at higher resolutions such as 1440P or 4k ...

I mostly operate at 4K

 

[phill]

Then you shouldn't see too much of a drop in performance.. I've not ran anything over 1080P for some years. Before it was 1600P for me back in the days of GTX 580's...

 

[Regeneration]

Just found a sale on eBay worth sharing: a brand new Xeon X5675 for $54.

X5675 has 6 cores 12 threads @ 3.06 GHz, lower TDP (95W) , but highest Tcase (81.3c) in the entire series.

Don't hold me responsible for the information. Its eBay after all, and a Asian seller.

I ordered one to keep a spare around.

 

[FilipM]

I might order one tomorrow

 

[phill]

If only it was in the UK lol

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

when i looked yesterday they were cheaper here

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Xe...625040&hash=item3f7343b6b0:g:sLoAAOSwMNxXYSrv

 

[Regeneration]

Your aunction is "used", mine says "new" allegedly, if you include shipping its almost the same price anyway.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Your aunction is "used", mine says "new" allegedly, if you include shipping its almost the same price anyway.

Used Xeon CPU's are VERY rarely OC'd and come from business environments 99% of the time. The value is very much there and the risk is extremely minimal.

 

[freakshow]

Not finished yet but here is my single xeon cpu system

Xeon E5 2630
DeepCool Gamer Storm Captain 240EX
EVGA X79 SLI (waiting on a new bios chip)
Team Group 16Gb DDR3 1600
Sapphire Radeon Nitro RX 480 (not installed yet)
Adata SU800 120Gb SSD
Hitachi 3Tb HHD
Seasonic 680w PSU
InWin 101C

 

[Regeneration]

Used Xeon CPU's are VERY rarely OC'd and come from business environments 99% of the time. The value is very much there and the risk is extremely minimal.

I bought used Xeons before, few were just like new, few were slighty degraded, and few were badly degraded.

Sure, businesses don't overclock, but CPUs degrade with use and time anyway, and its been 7 years since launch.

Some crappy motherboards overvolt even on stock clocks. Even business workstation motherboards.

New is always better, but probably impossible to find.

 

[lexluthermiester]

but CPUs degrade with use and time anyway, and its been 7 years since launch.

How can that possibly be correct? If it were, classic CPU's from the 80's and 90's wouldn't work, or work well. And they do. Sorry man, laws of physics don't work that way.

Some crappy motherboards overvolt even on stock clocks. Even business workstation motherboards.

A variation of a few hundredths of a volt does not amount to lasting damage, and any motherboard maker who's making boards for Xeon's are going to comply with defined specifications if they want to pass certification and qualification requirements.

 

[Regeneration]

A variation of a few hundredths of a volt does not amount to lasting damage, and any motherboard maker who's making boards for Xeon's are going to comply with defined specifications if they want to pass certification and qualification requirements.

Certification and qualification requirements?

Business workstation motherboards are terrible. Seen them doing all kind of crazy stuff, including feeding vcore 1.325v instead of 1.2v.

Surprisingly, the worst of the worst were "made by Intel" X58 workstation motherboards. Even the HEDT version, DX58SO had and still have BIOS bugs and a broken Vdroop control.

Intel offers employees hardware at a discounted price... their own motherboards were removed from the list a few years ago.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Certification and qualification requirements? Business workstation motherboards are terrible. Seen them doing all kind of crazy stuff, including feeding vcore 1.325v instead of 1.2v. Surprisingly, the worst of the worst were "made by Intel" X58 workstation motherboards. Even the HEDT version, DX58SO had and still have BIOS bugs and a broken Vdroop control. Intel offers employees hardware at a discounted price... their own motherboards were removed from the list a few years ago.

We could debate this point back and forth. This point is not worth the effort. If you don't think they're worth it, don't buy any. The rest of us will continue doing so and enjoying the use of such.

 

[Regeneration]

We could debate this point back and forth. This point is not worth the effort. If you don't think they're worth it, don't buy any. The rest of us will continue doing so and enjoying the use of such.

Just agree with me that NEW is always better than USED. Not that really matters since its impossible now to find new anyway.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Just agree with me that NEW is always better than USED. Not that really matters since its impossible now to find new anyway.

Of course new is always better. However you've defeated your own point by stating the obvious fact that new-old-stock is very rare. Thus the reality of used Xeon socket 1366 CPU's. Even some of the OG socket 2011 Xeons are getting difficult to find new.

 

[natr0n]

I got dual 5675's coming and this

extreme excite

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nice! The X5675's are the fastest 6-core 95watt parts for socket 1366. You're gonna have fun!

How much ram are you going to use? And what will you be using it for?

 

[natr0n]

Nice! The X5675's are the fastest 95watt parts for socket 1366. You're gonna have fun!

How much ram are you going to use? And what will you be using it for?

I have a stack of 32gb(8x4gb) of reg samsung 1600. Will be using 6 of the sticks. I read you can use 4 sticks and still have tripple channel on some boards.

I'm just going to have fun with it/game. Probably use it as main system. Always wanted a dual board and to play with 1366 chips.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I read you can use 4 sticks and still have triple channel on some boards.

That doesn't seem right. I think what will happen is if you only use four, two per CPU that each CPU drops to dual channel mode. I'd use 6 of them as well, 3 for each CPU and call it good.

I'm just going to have fun with it/game. Probably use it as main system. Always wanted a dual board and to play with 1366 chips.

Running dual CPU's isn't what it once was. As long as your CPU's match and the ram modules match, you're good to go. For gaming, you'll get diminishing returns on some games, depending on the game, and amazing results for others. But multi-tasking or audio/video rendering, it's going to scream.