Intel Core i7-8086K Listed, First 5.00 GHz Processor

[therealmeep]

Might get this chip just for the lols.
Imagine if it's not using pigeon poop (Devil's Canyon anyone..) - 5 GHz will be doable with cheap air cooling.



Yeah, sadly AMD's 5 GHz chip were (and is) insanely slow..



It will work just fine on Z370.
Z390 is what Z370 should have been from the start. Z370 is Z270 basicly..

Z370 is basically Z270 is pretty much Z170. All of these chips have the potential to be run in a Z170 chipset board, however redesigns on what pins get used for power potentially limits what chips would play nicely with these boards. My bet is this new chip will be the same story, and if someone finds a way past the pcie issues with the 8XXX series on Z170/270 you'll see most people jump from their 6700/7700s up to 6 or potentially 8 core chips if this architecture doesn't dead end, similar to the transition from sandy bridge to ivy bridge to haswell.

 

[Deleted member 67555]

I just caught the $486 pricetag...
Nice...
"8086"... first of the x86 line..."486".... Last of the x86 naming scheme.

 

[mouacyk]

8700K's can already run 5GHz on all cores. We just need a firmware editor.

 

[Hood]

Um what about the FX 9590?

You're right, the FX 9590 was technically the first to have 5.0 GHz turbo clocks out of the box. But it had an original MSRP of $899.99, required liquid cooling, an expensive top-end motherboard, and a strong fan aimed at the VRM area of the board, to handle it's 220 watt TDP. It also had terrible single core performance. It now retails for $104, so I'm guessing they didn't sell that well. This 8086K should be much more practical, and will have top-of-the-chart single core performance.

 

[therealmeep]

You're right, the FX 9590 was technically the first to have 5.0 GHz turbo clocks out of the box. But it had an original MSRP of $899.99, required liquid cooling, an expensive top-end motherboard, and a strong fan aimed at the VRM area of the board, to handle it's 220 watt TDP. It also had terrible single core performance. It now retails for $104, so I'm guessing they didn't sell that well. This 8086K should be much more practical, and will have top-of-the-chart single core performance.

I think this captures the whole scope of "consumer/average joe", just because it costs ~half of the 9590 (still ludicrous for an 8700) but it drops into a 300 series board with no issue. Call it 5GHz for the masses, it might not be the first but its relatively affordable.

 

[bug]

I just caught the $486 pricetag...
Nice...
"8086"... first of the x86 line..."486".... Last of the x86 naming scheme.

If we're digging through memories, Cyrix actually had 5x86. I'm not sure if they also had a 6x86 after that.

But yes, the price of this one isn't randomly picked.

 

[efikkan]

What a "useless" product. The last thing we need is a new i7 with even more aggressive boost.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Id very much consider it if it was more than 6c/12t

 

[ghazi]

If we're digging through memories, Cyrix actually had 5x86. I'm not sure if they also had a 6x86 after that.

But yes, the price of this one isn't randomly picked.

They did have a 6x86, and let's not forget the Am586.

More on topic, not sure why people are arguing that the FX-9590 doesn't count as the first 5GHz chip just because it was ridiculous and sucked pretty bad. And for the record it never cost anywhere near $899 in the retail channel, when it arrived at retail I believe it was around the $300 mark (originally OEM only). This chip is pretty cool nonetheless though.

 

[Tsukiyomi91]

the first mainstream binned chip for the masses, I guess.

 

[xorbe]

It's a tribute to a 40-year old CPU that ushered in the PC era. The $500 asking price is nothing, I expect this is worth a lot more to a select few collectors.

There's nothing special about the part that makes it collectable, other than the SKU on the cardboard box, meh. Hard pass if it's $500. Unless they slam 128MB cache on it, like the one chip (5775C? I forget.)

 

[Th3pwn3r]

It's a tribute to a 40-year old CPU that ushered in the PC era. The $500 asking price is nothing, I expect this is worth a lot more to a select few collectors.

I never said it was expensive, I just don't see it as worth any 'extra' personally. If people want I can sell them old, low tier processors for $486 as a "tribute". See what I'm saying? I guess there's a market for it though...

 

[mouacyk]

There's nothing special about the part that makes it collectable, other than the SKU on the cardboard box, meh. Hard pass if it's $500. Unless they slam 128MB cache on it, like the one chip (5775C? I forget.)

I like the wishful thinking. Would make an absolutely perfect CPU for VR with the tightest possible frame times. However, you can probably tweak DDR4 now to reach nearly the latency and far surpass the bandwidth of Broadwell eDRAM. And then again, if eDRAM was to be redone today, its latency would probably reach sub 20ns, bordering on L3 cache territory.

 

[eidairaman1]

Might get this chip just for the lols.
Imagine if it's not using pigeon poop (Devil's Canyon anyone..) - 5 GHz will be doable with cheap air cooling.



Yeah, sadly AMD's 5 GHz chip were (and is) insanely slow..



It will work just fine on Z370.
Z390 is what Z370 should have been from the start. Z370 is Z270 basicly..

You wouldn't be able to tell in real world.

 

[las]

You wouldn't be able to tell in real world.

Between 8 Core FX @ 5 GHz and 6C/12T CFL at 5 GHz? Yes, yes I would. Everyone would. Even a 2600K with OC would slam that old FX @ 5 GHz in pretty much everything, especially games.

FX series were (and is) terrible. Insane watt usage on top of that.

AMD CPU's first became relevant again with Ryzen. FX was a disaster.

8700K's can already run 5GHz on all cores. We just need a firmware editor.

Not all. These will be better binned for sure, meaning higher overclocks in the end. Maybe they even comes with good TIM, like Devil's Canyon back in the day.

Id very much consider it if it was more than 6c/12t

Yet you bought i5 with 6c/6t?
8c/16t would mean lower clocks, which is worse for games and most applications.

 

[Morgoth]

i hope its gold plated

 

[Casecutter]

So what thermal interface material (TIM) Intel is using under this IHS, probably the same old 8700K "paste"!
Thanks for nothing...

 

[biffzinker]

Yeah, sadly AMD's 5 GHz chip were (and is) insanely slow..

That's an understatement for the 220 watt FX 9590.

Between 8 Core FX @ 5 GHz and 6C/12T CFL at 5 GHz? Yes, yes I would.

Heck even the Ryzen R5 2600X at 4.1 GHz (133 watts maximum observed) would be noticable over any Piledriver at 5.0 GHz.

 

[las]

So what thermal interface material (TIM) Intel is using under this IHS, probably the same old 8700K "paste"!
Thanks for nothing...

Probably not, because then very good cooling will be needed for that 5 GHz boost. Either better TIM or heavily binned chips.

That's an understatement for the 220 watt FX 9590.
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Heck even the Ryzen R5 2600X at 4.1 GHz (133 watts maximum observed) would be noticable over any Piledriver at 5.0 GHz.

Ryzen at 4.1 GHz would destroy that FX at 5 GHz for sure.

 

[R-T-B]

Probably not, because then very good cooling will be needed for that 5 GHz boost. Either better TIM or heavily binned chips.

It's not that hard to bin for 5Ghz. I'm certain that's the route they've gone rather than solder. And they don't really seem to comprehend a better paste exists. They even ship the same brand dow corning shit with their heatsinks. I opened a rare tube of it once with one of their actual decent LGA1366 heatsinks and the stuff was dry as powdered Sahara sand... longevity my ass.

 

[Casecutter]

heatsinks and the stuff was dry as powdered sugar... longevity my ass.

I think they called that Planned obsolescence. How many de-lid say 4-5 years of hard use to see what is under the IHS.

 

[mouacyk]

I think they called that Planned obsolescence. How many de-lid say 4-5 years of hard use to see what is under the IHS.

Don't use the big words. 99 users on TPU cannot comprehend it.

 

[bug]

There's nothing special about the part that makes it collectable, other than the SKU on the cardboard box, meh. Hard pass if it's $500. Unless they slam 128MB cache on it, like the one chip (5775C? I forget.)

It's part of today's series that happened to match the 8000 moniker with a little binning and a witty choice of part number. For what it is (a trip down the memory lane), that's all that's needed.
Also, the 5775C had 6MB of cache, like most Broadwell i7s. What it did have, was 128MB of dedicated VRAM.

 

[R-T-B]

I think they called that Planned obsolescence. How many de-lid say 4-5 years of hard use to see what is under the IHS.

It was in a sealed tube. My point is it doesn't last under the best conditions, even.

Don't use the big words. 99 users on TPU cannot comprehend it.

I certainly can. How about we talk like big people here? You know, without the vague insults to "99" of our community?

 

[luke37181]

Um what about the FX 9590?

well, "the first mainstream desktop processor from Intel to hit the 5.00 GHz mark, out of the box. " i didn't think the 9590 was intel's doing