Are you getting the new GeForce RTX 2000?

[GoldenX]

I love 16-bit games, they have a lot more of love and story than today's ray traced crap, and less bugs.
Go pay your Nvidia Tax.

 

[RealNeil]

We play shooters at my house. My kids and I, and sometimes the grandkids and I.
They're not particularly hard for my upscale PCs to play at Max-settings in LAN games. Older games have a ton of good mods to make them better than the originals were.

Ray tracing doesn't have a whole lot of appeal for me at this early stage of release. I may change my mind if they build it onto something that is must have, or a fantastic experience. Until that happens, coupled with less NVIDIA price gouging, I will sit and observe and save some money.

There is the possibility that we may see something fantastic come from AMD. In time I'll be able to choose the tech that I like the best. (vote with my wallet, so to speak)

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Looking for a second GTX-1080Ti for SLI.

+1 to this since I'm holding out till they drop : D

 

[TheOne]

At the rate the PC market is going with its price increases I might have to look towards consoles in the future.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

We play shooters at my house. My kids and I, and sometimes the grandkids and I.
They're not particularly hard for my upscale PCs to play at Max-settings in LAN games. Older games have a ton of good mods to make them better than the originals were.

Ray tracing doesn't have a whole lot of appeal for me at this early stage of release. I may change my mind if they build it onto something that is must have, or a fantastic experience. Until that happens, coupled with less NVIDIA price gouging, I will sit and observe and save some money.

There is the possibility that we may see something fantastic come from AMD. In time I'll be able to choose the tech that I like the best. (vote with my wallet, so to speak)

All of this...including older games with mods, I have hundreds of mods and an ENB for Skyrim, and with 4k and 1080ti it looks like it was released in last couple years still best game out there with massive content IMO.

 

[gamerman]

weird questions.. i mean what is the point?

i mean why buy next gpu..and i mean year 2019 incoming nvidia xxx?
wait! yes! or so and buy next....

next gpu for is for store,t is nvidia 1000 series, and soon is even better store, nvidia 2000 series.


nvidia 2000 series is at least 40% faster and still same tdp as old one,its whisper silent. what else gamer need?


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well , i know...hehe not buy rtx 2000 series.. wait for Q2-3/2019 and lets buy rtx 3000 gpu......hmm NO! lets wait Q3-4/2020 and buy rtx 4000,bcoz that gpu must be best ever,bcoz intel release they own gpu same year... ok?

bh1t! no!!

i skip that too and wait 2022, and buy rtx 5000 gpu. its must be great....it sure 200% faster than rtx 2000 gpu. yes!!!


summarum

rtx 2000 series is top of gaming performance hill,..king of gpu.

after its release, check 3dmarks HALL OF FAME score board about after 3 weeks, there is brakeing many new 3DMARKS record, thans fo rtx 2000 series.

amd? junk and looser choice.

 

[SKD007]

I am on Vega64 and won’t bother anything till I see 7nm. Nvidia tech always fails after Nvidia sponsored game releases. After 6 to 10 game titles it will be like hairwork. No one will want it.

They cannot fool me twice..

 

[GoldenX]

Nah, I don't doubt the cards will be good, but at those prices, and with not all of them having the Next New Thing RTX, I'll stay away from them.

 

[rtwjunkie]

At the rate the PC market is going with its price increases I might have to look towards consoles in the future.

The good news is people with midlevel and up equipment can skip a gen or two and have reasonable expectations of playing future games well.

And if not for gaming, the upgrade cycle can wait even longer.this all serves to mitigate the cost, amortizing out over longer periods. Your main system specs should be fine for awhile: cpu, motherboard, ram, GPU.

 

[TheOne]

The good news is people with midlevel and up equipment can skip a gen or two and have reasonable expectations of playing future games well.

And if not for gaming, the upgrade cycle can wait even longer.this all serves to mitigate the cost, amortizing out over longer periods. Your main system specs should be fine for awhile: cpu, motherboard, ram, GPU.

It should hopefully last me until at the very least the next generation consoles launch, and I hope GPU and memory prices come down before I need to upgrade, but if they stay high like this I may move to whatever console generation is available when I need to upgrade, at least for gaming.

 

[Agentbb007]

I pre-ordered the EVGA 2080 Ti XC Gaming. I'm going to sell my 1080 on eBay.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I pre-ordered the EVGA 2080 Ti XC Gaming. I'm going to sell my 1080 on eBay.

Nice! I'm sure it'll be quite the card. I admit I'd never do it even if I were in the position to but in the past I've spent I've spent equivalent money on new CPU's like the FX-55 Athlon I still have in my closet...cpu alone was 1000 bucks 13 years ago or so. Also you have a 1080, I have a 1080TI and I just got it four months ago so you probably had your 1080 for long time and also you will get much larger jump in performance than I would regardless of what new TI brings to table.

 

[grammar_phreak]

The RTX 2080ti looks interesting............................. at $800

 

[dalekdukesboy]

The RTX 2080ti looks interesting............................. at $800

And only marginally interesting to watch at that, at price it is at unless it destroys previous gen. it's a joke truthfully. But, when reviews come out in few days we'll see exactly which it is, but that price is hard to justify for almost any non-compute card.

 

[Enterprise24]

Skipping also. Just bought a used 1080 Ti FTW3 for $515 with 2 years warranty left (from gamer not miner).
Cheapest 2080 start at $875 here and that is very basic model from inno3d. ASUS Strix cost $1062. While cheapest new 1080 Ti (again from inno3d) still rocking $815.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Skipping also. Just bought a used 1080 Ti FTW3 for $515 with 2 years warranty left (from gamer not miner).
Cheapest 2080 start at $875 here and that is very basic model from inno3d. ASUS Strix cost $1062. While cheapest new 1080 Ti (again from inno3d) still rocking $815.

That's a steal - I paid £765 new for a 1080 ti ftw3 during the mining hype crap.

 

[grammar_phreak]

And only marginally interesting to watch at that, at price it is at unless it destroys previous gen. it's a joke truthfully. But, when reviews come out in few days we'll see exactly which it is, but that price is hard to justify for almost any non-compute card.

It seems like the reviews for the RTX cards will be a little bit tougher to pick apart because of how DLSS will effect those few games that support it. That will be weird and hopefully there will be a separate benchmark for DLSS and non-DLSS. What will DLSS do to power consumption? By the time more games support DLSS, there will more than likely be another Generation of cards. In some ways this reminds me of the Super Nintendo when it came out in 1991. Nintendo marketed the Super Nintendo as a can't miss technology that everyone needs to get but it took 3 years for them to build up the library. By the time the library of games that can support the RT and DLSS portion of the chip is built up a card at the RTX 2080ti performance level will be a lot cheaper. That's why it drives me nuts when someone says to just buy something that has such little support.

 

[Batailleuse]

It should hopefully last me until at the very least the next generation consoles launch, and I hope GPU and memory prices come down before I need to upgrade, but if they stay high like this I may move to whatever console generation is available when I need to upgrade, at least for gaming.

Or you could just take a sub to. Shadow Gaming and have a high end computer for like 30$/month. And all you'll need is a screen / mouse/kb/good Internet. Honestly home gaming is slowly coming to an end.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Honestly home gaming is slowly coming to an end.

LOL....

That’s good stuff, there! Trying to resurrect “The PC gaming is dying” bit? It’s stronger than ever.

 

[Batailleuse]

LOL....

That’s good stuff, there! Trying to resurrect “The PC gaming is dying” bit? It’s stronger than ever.

it is just my opinion, but think carefully about it.

1: The cloud is currently playable and relatively cheap (Shadow cloud Gaming), it will only get better as internet also gets better. (only thing that doesn't work so well for now is moba/fps genre cause its very ping dependent)

2: every console manufacturer said it, Cloud gaming is the future for their platform. in 1-2 gen = less than 10 years.


3: Now if you look at the consumer side, buying a complete computer for high end is expensive that's a fact. for my Rig I paid around 20k RMB (about 3000$) for case/2700x/16gb ddr4/gtx2080ti/watercooling

Now with a say ... shadow (French based Tech company) subscription yearly its 30$/month to get access to (for now) the equivalent of a 8700k+1080+16gb and I strongly suppose they will upgrade the horsepower by 2019 with Gen 20 level of power.

In the end consumer side only thing you need is a screen and a mouse/keyboard combo. which is ridiculously cheaper than a complete computer.

so now the question is would you rather pay 340$ per year to get a cloud computer that is high end tier and is upgraded without cost for you, or spend 2000+ that you kinda have to upgrade every year?

I'd be more inclined to say the first but I suppose we will see how gamer vote with their wallets in the coming year.

Its also worth mentioning that the Cloud service is non OS dependent and non hardware dependent. so you can play any games from a mac/Linux/windows and from any laptop even the crappy ones.

so for instance, you could play any recent game, in 1080p/2k un Ultra, from a MacBook 12". which beat anything in portability for the gaming power.

 

[StrayKAT]

Video game developers will be pushed to use Ray Tracing in their games from Nvidia, and if they think it will improve and become a necessity for their titles, those who do not have an RTX card will not fully enjoy their games. So you will enjoy half of it.

In my opinion who is against can go back and play 16 bit games and live under a rock.

Because that was true for GameWorks before. /sarcasm

 

[Deleted member 50521]

Ordered one for me. My friend also ordered one for his 2990WX build.

My FuryX is going to a new home so yeah, time to upgrade.

Forgot to add we are both getting 2080Ti

 

[Valent117]

waiting for a 120w gpu

 

[dalekdukesboy]

And only marginally interesting to watch at that, at price it is at unless it destroys previous gen. it's a joke truthfully. But, when reviews come out in few days we'll see exactly which it is, but that price is hard to justify for almost any non-compute card.

I don't often quote myself, but when I do, it's because " at price it is at unless it destroys previous gen. (nope) it's a joke truthfully (yup)."

"A fool and his money are soon parted" should be the new slogan for Nvidia and this series of cards.

It seems like the reviews for the RTX cards will be a little bit tougher to pick apart because of how DLSS will effect those few games that support it. That will be weird and hopefully there will be a separate benchmark for DLSS and non-DLSS. What will DLSS do to power consumption? By the time more games support DLSS, there will more than likely be another Generation of cards. In some ways this reminds me of the Super Nintendo when it came out in 1991. Nintendo marketed the Super Nintendo as a can't miss technology that everyone needs to get but it took 3 years for them to build up the library. By the time the library of games that can support the RT and DLSS portion of the chip is built up a card at the RTX 2080ti performance level will be a lot cheaper. That's why it drives me nuts when someone says to just buy something that has such little support.

Thanks for input and interesting history! However, in 3 years this card will be not worth using particularly at this price when 2 generations by then (at least 1) have already superceded it hopefully on 10nm or less node and we get the card we should have gotten this time, which we didn't.

 

[John Naylor]

The cost of the top tier card (Adjusted for inflation) has been averaged $700 since the year 2000. ... nothing new here.

https://www.hardocp.com/news/2017/03/10/some_perspective_zarathustras_nvidia_price_history

The RTX 2080 has MSRP of $700, but this time, upon release it's not the top card. And AIB partners are asking a $130 premium, far more than the $20 we are used to seeing. So what can possibly be laid at the feet of this generation's pricing ? Some things that have potential impact.

1. We have a watershed moment right now in gaming whereby nothing can drive the new 144 hz 2160p HDR panels to the extent (say 70% of games in TPUs test suite / 90% for the Ti) that gamers want. If you want 1 of these panels, and you want to play > 60 fps you really don't have an option.

2. If you playing at 1440p, you really don't need anything more than a 1080 Ti; If you playing at 1080p, you really don't need anything more than a 1070....or likely 2060

3. AMD doesn't have a horse in the race from the 1060 on up . If you buy a 10xx card or you buy a 20xx card, nVidia doesn't care. The 2080 is 50% faster than anything AMD has to offer. The Vega 64 Strix is $569... assuming the 2080 Strix matches the competition's price of $829, that's a 45% increase in price for a 50% increase in performance... in other words ... a positive ROI. hard to argue that there's competition there, nvidia's just competing with itself.

4. We have a glut of 10xx series cards already in the US from pre-tariff days. What impact, if any, are the tariff's having on 2xxx series pricing. Not a question anyone seems to want to ask. Just read that the new round of tariffs was dropped to 10% till after the elections / holidays and going back up to 25% in January. Adding 25% to $700 is +$175.... adding 10% is $70

5. It's new it's shiny, it's going to be desired by the "I need to be the 1st one on my block to have the new shiny thing" crowd. Partners and vendors will tweak pricing to meet the supply and demand curve.

6. Capitalism, it has a definition. Read about corporate leadership's responsibility to shareholders to maximize profits. They have a fiduciary duty and can be removed and even prosecuted for not making sound business decisions. This isn't little league where the coach puts in the 2nd string when they have a 10 run lead.

7. Whether it's basketball shoes, cell phones, or PC components, we live in a world where how you measure up is a status symbool... "mine's bigger". On one hand you can argue does it really matter if you finish running a mile 2 seconds faster with a pair of $300 running shoes ? OTOH, yes, it certainly does matter if you finish 2 seconds slower, and the guy who finished 2 seconds faster gets the college scholarship to the track team instead of you.

The point is, nVidia is in a very enviable position.... When AMD was competitive in the 2nd thuy 4th tiers, they could under price nVidia by $20 and claim the "better value" argument. They have not been competitive for some time now leaving nVidia with the option to do what they want. Like the folks burning their Nike's, they don't care of you buy a 1080Ti instead of 2080 ... their margin is the same if not better. Nike's doesn't seem to upset over the burnings ... profits are up 31%, ... and nVidia wont be upset if folks clear out that giant unsold stock of 10xx series cards.,,, not like there is a sensible alternative from the competition. They will certainly make more money if those warehouses get emptied out. When that happens, I expect we'll see a significant price decrease.