NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition 11 GB

[Totally]

100/72 = 1.38. It's 38% faster at 4K.

If it's already normalized you add/subtract not multiply, since it is already in terms of "other card performance divided by 2080 ti performance" which is .72 or 72%

 

[terroralpha]

Seems like your numbers are quite ways off, for example hardware unboxed on the same games and resolutions found the RTX 2080 much closer to the GTX 1080ti and even losing in two games.

Again, maybe you should recheck your results as they seem off compared to other more reputable reviewers.

The cards themselves are impressive no doubt about it pure performance wise. Value wise they are really bad actually, in fact for the price increase it actually offers negative performance. Both the RTX 2080 and RTX 2080ti offer negative value compared to the 2080 and 2080ti respectfully.

i haven't seen adored's crap yet, but TPU seems in line with everything i've seen so far. here is bitwit's relative performance: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachments/bitwit-jpg.107144/
note the difference in overall 4k performance, 8.7% which is almost exactly what TPU got.

tech jesus got pretty much the same thing. maybe it's adored who is wrong?

If it's already normalized you add/subtract not multiply, since it is already in terms of "other card performance divided by 2080 ti performance" which is .72 or 72%

please tell me this a joke or a troll. i know that people in the states are generally awful with math but this is getting scary.

 

[Mighty-Lu-Bu]

Man the Red Guards are out in doves this time.

When RTG GPU delivers: OMFG world peace happily ever after

When RTG GPU sucks: They have smaller budget, underdog, FineWine(tm) etc etc

When NV GPU delivers: We demand 1000fps at 8k for $200, while still complaining about “big bad green”

When NV GPU sucks: Hell yeah death the devil green!

Meanwhile in reality when you check their system profiles, most of them rock a Nvidia “evil” GPU

All you haters should go buy a Vega64 to support RTG today.

In my defense, the only reason I have a GTX 1070 is because at the time, one of the best AMD cards was the R9 390X (which I had), but I was heaving serious slow down in a heavily modded Skyrim- my GTX 1070 solved that. Now I am going from a GTX 1070 to a Vega 64

 

[W1zzard]

Userbenchmark, ehm ... OK. Though have a look at TPUs own rankings:

Protip: look at the data in this review. I've included Fury X and 980 Ti in last week's rebench

 

[Vya Domus]

Protip: look at the data in this review. I've included Fury X and 980 Ti in last week's rebench

So turns out Fury X is slightly ahead actually.

 

[springs113]

Math problems mainly

This things are beasts, but silly expensive, we can thank the shit competition for that. Reading the Pascal reviews a lot of them didn't appreciate those cards then either, now they are starting to.

No doubt cards like the GTX 1080 and GTX 1080 Ti remain great buys.

No dont blame the competition for shit prices... blame the consumers that know the prices are shit and still buy anyways. If company A releases a product marginally better than company B but charges 2x the price. How can we as consumers purchase company A's product then complain? Don't buy and watch the prices fall... unfortunately something so simple is oh so complicated to do.

 

[Deleted member 50521]

So turns out Fury X is slightly ahead actually.

While being an overclockers dream.

Any 980Ti with mild OC will blow FuryX away in all resolutions. FuryX can’t OC.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Competition forces prices to go down, as it stands there is nothing marginally worse.

Reading this and other threads suggest the mighty GTX 1080 Ti is about to get more love.... Nvidia don't mind.

 

[terroralpha]

So turns out Fury X is slightly ahead actually.

that would make sense because the reference 980 Ti has a garbage cooler, which is what TPU and others use to bench. but the fury X gets absolutely pummeled by custom 980 Tis, like the strix. the most glaring case was the MSI 980 Ti lightning, which was on average 25% faster than the fury x at every resolution. i personally had a 980 Ti kingpin which at the time of my purchase was the same exact price as a reference fury X and it was even faster than the lightning card TPU tested. mine boosted to 1540MHz on the GPU and 2100MHz on the memory. TPU's lightning went to 1518 and 2090 Mhz respectively.

 

[Mighty-Lu-Bu]

Competition forces prices to go down, as it stands there is nothing marginally worse.

Reading this and other threads suggest the mighty GTX 1080 Ti is about to get more love.... Nvidia don't mind.

While this is true, AMD won't have anything that competes with the new Nvidia cards until mid to late 2019 at the earliest which is a big bummer.

that would make sense because the reference 980 Ti has a garbage cooler, which is what TPU and others use to bench. but the fury X gets absolutely pummeled by custom 980 Tis, like the strix. the most glaring case was the MSI 980 Ti lightning, which was on average 25% faster than the fury x at every resolution. i personally had a 980 Ti kingpin which at the time of my purchase was the same exact price as a reference fury X and it was even faster than the lightning card TPU tested.

That's why I have been saying that the GTX 980ti is superior to the Fury X. It also overclocks significantly better.

 

[Vya Domus]

While being an overclockers dream.

Any 980Ti with mild OC will blow FuryX away in all resolutions. FuryX can’t OC.

Ah of course, I know Fury X is a touching subject to you. Go on, tell us once again how horrible it was owning one.

Can we stop arguing about cards released many years ago that are quite irrelevant. Fury X was trash, as is RTG in general, got it. Can we move on now?

 

[moproblems99]

Man the Red Guards are out in doves this time.

When RTG GPU delivers: OMFG world peace happily ever after

When RTG GPU sucks: They have smaller budget, underdog, FineWine(tm) etc etc

When NV GPU delivers: We demand 1000fps at 8k for $200, while still complaining about “big bad green”

When NV GPU sucks: Hell yeah death the devil green!

Meanwhile in reality when you check their system profiles, most of them rock a Nvidia “evil” GPU

All you haters should go buy a Vega64 to support RTG today.

Thanks, I did! Although, in honesty, the only thing I hate is stupidity.

Also, in case you haven't noticed. Most of the people that think Vega is slow, power hungry, and hot - don't actually have one. The only thing to complain about with Touring is the fact the prices are too damn high and RTX is useless* for gaming at the moment. Even when the games come out over the next few months. 1080@60Hz is not what most people are going to be thrilled with running. Already people complain about consoles targeting 1080@60.

*Assuming RTX demos are final performance numbers.

 

[B-Real]

Respect to that FE card, its actually solid.

Numbers are fairly close to what i was expecting. Not thrilled with the clocks and temps of the MSI trio, which is the one I have ordered ^_^’ hopefully my one fares a little better.

Really excited to see DLSS in action, I think its going to push this purchase from feeling the sting for 1/3 more perf, to actually making it worthwhile...

This is a required justification to spend your 1100-1200$ on a single GPU..

Yeah, some people just want to complain about something...

Of course price is insane, everyone here could agree, but lame performance? C´mom guys, be serious...

Despite the price, the 2080Ti is a beast of a card, no doubt about that. If Nvidia sold it for $500, I guess no one would mind to have such a lame performance card in their system.

No, people weren't expecting a 500$ 2080Ti. I think even a 800$ 2080Ti would have been OK. But 1000$ MSRP, which was 1100$ in reality is nonsense.

 

[moproblems99]

Competition forces prices to go down, as it stands there is nothing marginally worse.

Wrong. Consumers not purchasing drives prices down. You don't need competition to have consumers not buy something. Prices will fall until consumers buy.

 

[Vya Domus]

Wrong. Consumers not purchasing drives prices down. You don't need competition to have consumers not buy something. Prices will fall until consumers buy.

Yep, competition drives technological advancement not prices.

 

[terroralpha]

im seriously considering a Bykski block for my 2080 Ti. anyone use these before? i'm seeing good reviews on amazon and other places from their previous models.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/113249948373
i have a targeted ebay coupon that will make the price $100.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Wrong. Consumers not purchasing drives prices down. You don't need competition to have consumers not buy something. Prices will fall until consumers buy.

Consumers will buy, so the prices are fine ultimately. If it doesn't fit your budget other cards are available.

Shocking.

 

[bug]

While this is true, AMD won't have anything that competes with the new Nvidia cards until mid to late 2019 at the earliest which is a big bummer

AMD was already behind because of lack of TBR (supposedly in the Vega silicon, though apparently never actually enabled). Now, even if you disregard RTX, they also miss the hardware for advanced AA and mesh shading. Hoping they'll be able to close that gap within the year is a bit optimistic. I wish they would, but experience has taught me that whenever AMD isn't leaking upcoming products, upcoming products disappoint.

 

[Deleted member 50521]

im seriously considering a Bykski block for my 2080 Ti. anyone use these before? i'm seeing good reviews on amazon and other places from their previous models.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/113249948373
i have a targeted ebay coupon that will make the price $100.

I am thinking of going EK MLC for mine 2080Ti Custom loop is still out of my comfort zone

 

[moproblems99]

Consumers will buy, so the prices are fine ultimately. If it doesn't fit your budget other cards are available.

I don't disagree with you that people will buy. As to your other comment, I can afford anything I like thank you. Luckily, my needs are met so I don't need to worry about this generation. Had my needs not been met, it would be time to consider how much I value PC gaming versus something more....productive and useful.

 

[Fluffmeister]

I don't disagree with you that people will buy. As to your other comment, I can afford anything I like thank you. Luckily, my needs are met so I don't need to worry about this generation. Had my needs not been met, it would be time to consider how much I value PC gaming versus something more....productive and useful.

And that is absolutely fine, you have a Vega 56 and no doubt waited long enough for that.

Others always want more... as it stands the RTX 2080 Ti is 85% faster than a Vega 64 at 4k.

 

[moproblems99]

Others always want more... as it stands the RTX 2080 Ti is 85% faster than a Vega 64 at 4k.

So real question, anyone can answer. Next year( when 3080TI or whatever its name may be) is release, is $1500USD going to be an acceptable price because it is 38% faster than 2080TI?

 

[Fluffmeister]

So real question, anyone can answer. Next year( when 3080TI or whatever its name may be) is release, is $1500USD going to be an acceptable price because it is 38% faster than 2080TI?

Well no, because apparently despite the popular belief here, if the "competition" undercut you with what amounts to be the same product, you can't sell at silly prices.

Besides, the RTX 2080 Ti will be more affordable then anyway.

 

[terroralpha]

So real question, anyone can answer. Next year( when 3080TI or whatever its name may be) is release, is $1500USD going to be an acceptable price because it is 38% faster than 2080TI?

ok, i'll bite. if the fastest AMD card on the market at the time (navi 64?) is only half as fast but costs $750, then yea, i can see why someone would spend that much on it. if i buy a 4k 120Hz or 144Hz monitor, i might get it. it's unlikely as i prefer ultrawide screens, but i'm not ruling it out.

the prices are dictated by the market, at least in the US. product and service costs are set by what people are willing to pay. here is an example: i run an IT consulting company in NYC. my clients include law and accounting firms and ad agencies. i bill $250/hour. there are other IT companies that bill half as much or less. so why do my clients not dump me and go elsewhere? because those clowns do not do as good of a job as i do. why should i lower my prices because some idiot elsewhere in the city, who can't do what I can, charges a lower price?

same principal applies to everything. i have been using iphones since they first because available on verizon wireless, but i will not buy the new iphone because i don't think they are worth it. in fact, i'm probably going to change back to android. and i'm not the only one who thinks so. their stock lost 5% in the last week due to lackluster pre orders. however, i do think that the 2080 Ti is worth so i will keep my pre order. i was lucky enough to get a gigabyte "A" binned 2080 Ti for $1030 after tax on amazon during the nvidia keynote, before the prices all went off the rails. but if i had to pay $1200 i would still do it.

 

[Blueberries]

Everyone's hung up on the price and glancing over a MASSIVE 40% 4k performance improvement?!

18% Performance/Watt improvement!