Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[YautjaLord]

@Johan45: For a moment thought, "wait, what about those LN2s with HWBot all over them?", then realized it's wallpaper on your desktop.

I need tools & gear like this in my life, even for a brief moment:

Looks nuts, i don't think i have friends that have that kind of equipment in Israel.

 

[Johan45]

Made some progress with the 1950X, mem is up to 3466 CL15 and 3.9 on the core at 1.3V in BIOS. Temps still need to be improved. Also stretched the legs on an RX Vega 64 I picked up recently.

 

[Johan45]

Did some testing with Win7, installed fine on an NVMe with my previously prepped media for AM4. Have also bumped the speed to 4.0 @ 1.35V really need to address the cooling though.

 

[SIGSEGV]

what is the safe voltage DRAM for Ryzen ? is it 1.4?

 

[GoldenX]

It seems to be 1.5v, but that's for the controller, not for the RAM itself.

 

[SIGSEGV]

Ripjaws 32Gb 3200 CL14 @1.35v, the XMP profile is running well but I have to adjust the DRAM voltage to 1.39v to run CL14 @3400 stable and also loosening the tRC from 14 to 15

 

[GoldenX]

At high RAM frequencies you may be running at tRC 16, odds numbers are ignored.
What SoC voltage are you using?

 

[SIGSEGV]

At high RAM frequencies you may be running at tRC 16, odds numbers are ignored.
What SoC voltage are you using?

I set SoC voltage to AUTO, 1.15 or 1.16v. Do i have to set SoC manually? I heard that max safe voltage for SoC is around 1.30

 

[GoldenX]

It is, but you get higher temperatures for nothing, and anyway, nothing higher than 1.15v is necessary.

 

[Johan45]

I set SoC voltage to AUTO, 1.15 or 1.16v. Do i have to set SoC manually? I heard that max safe voltage for SoC is around 1.30

You might be too high, even at 3466 I use 1.05 or less depending on CPU/platform

At high RAM frequencies you may be running at tRC 16, odds numbers are ignored.
What SoC voltage are you using?

Check my last post with the pics 3466 CL15. It's the gear down setting in BIOS which will let you run odd CL over 2933

 

[robot zombie]

I set SoC voltage to AUTO, 1.15 or 1.16v. Do i have to set SoC manually? I heard that max safe voltage for SoC is around 1.30

1.3 seems high to me. Realistically I think the killzone is probably pretty high. If you wanted to bench there I'm sure it'd be okay, but the AMD recommendation is 1.2. I'm sure they're factoring in all sorts of margins and scenarios there, but still. I wouldn't venture north of there, personally. Little reason to.

Like GoldenX said, just not worth it. If your config is stable, there's no benefit. And if you find yourself going much over 1.2 to begin with, something else is probably wrong. Most people fall ~1.1 when really pushing it up, though some get lucky and run a little lower. They have their sweet spots they like. Sometimes you think maybe you'll up it a tick or two while you tighten something down and then wind up fooling yourself into thinking the timings are bad when really the SOC is too high and it's causing the controller to misbehave. No different than DRAM voltage. More isn't always better and quite often it only means more heat/strain. If it posts, don't mess with it too much. Minor tweaks up and down from there if there are little hiccups. If that's the fix at all, small adjustments will be all it ever takes. Go too far out of the radius either way and you can get thrown off track. There's much more to stability with these things then just straight voltage. The way they behave electrically gets pretty complicated.

1.15 is high to me, but still reasonable. You may actually be able to bring it down manually and lower CPU temps. At least a little bit.

 

[Johan45]

Setting SOC too high can cause issues too

 

[SIGSEGV]

You might be too high, even at 3466 I use 1.05 or less depending on CPU/platform



Check my last post with the pics 3466 CL15. It's the gear down setting in BIOS which will let you run odd CL over 2933

my Ripjaws memory CL14 3200 can run perfectly stable at 3400 without changing the timing but I have to adjust the dram voltage to 1.395

1.3 seems high to me. Realistically I think the killzone is probably pretty high. If you wanted to bench there I'm sure it'd be okay, but the AMD recommendation is 1.2. I'm sure they're factoring in all sorts of margins and scenarios there, but still. I wouldn't venture north of there, personally. Little reason to.

Like GoldenX said, just not worth it. If your config is stable, there's no benefit. And if you find yourself going much over 1.2 to begin with, something else is probably wrong. Most people fall ~1.1 when really pushing it up, though some get lucky and run a little lower. They have their sweet spots they like. Sometimes you think maybe you'll up it a tick or two while you tighten something down and then wind up fooling yourself into thinking the timings are bad when really the SOC is too high and it's causing the controller to misbehave. No different than DRAM voltage. More isn't always better and quite often it only means more heat/strain. If it posts, don't mess with it too much. Minor tweaks up and down from there if there are little hiccups. If that's the fix at all, small adjustments will be all it ever takes. Go too far out of the radius either way and you can get thrown off track. There's much more to stability with these things then just straight voltage. The way they behave electrically gets pretty complicated.

1.15 is high to me, but still reasonable. You may actually be able to bring it down manually and lower CPU temps. At least a little bit.

I set SoC voltage with offset mode -0.0625v but I will try to lower a lil bit later, maybe -0.0725v

 

[HTC]

Perhaps someone can provide assistance:

bought myself a 2600X but i'm unable to get past error E6 my board (Taichi X370) gives, meaning i can't enter BIOS. Put back the 1600 and can use the PC no prob, but i can't update the BIOS because instant flash doesn't recognize any of the BIOSes and downloading + placing them in a pen doesn't work either

Any suggestions?

 

[SIGSEGV]

Perhaps someone can provide assistance:

bought myself a 2600X but i'm unable to get past error E6 my board (Taichi X370) gives, meaning i can't enter BIOS. Put back the 1600 and can use the PC no prob, but i can't update the BIOS because instant flash doesn't recognize any of the BIOSes and downloading + placing them in a pen doesn't work either

Any suggestions?

have you tried to update bios?

 

[Johan45]

Yo definitely need to update the BIOS with the 1600 in the board. Make sure the pen drive is formatted in FAT32. Pretty sure the Asrock boards will update over the internet as well from the tools section in BIOS. Not my preference but if you have to

 

[HTC]

have you tried to update bios?

Ofc: BIOS doesn't recognize any version (current is 3.20). Tried downloading all of them and placing them in a pen and it still doesn't recognize any of them

Also, and unrelated: anyone ever heard of a powered off PSU (via button) having energy spikes? When i was 1st placing the 2600X, the board's power kicked in and immediately powered off. Wasn't the PSU's button supposed to kill all power to PSU and board?

Yo definitely need to update the BIOS with the 1600 in the board. Make sure the pen drive is formatted in FAT32. Pretty sure the Asrock boards will update over the internet as well from the tools section in BIOS. Not my preference but if you have to

Can't: reason described just above.

Haven't tried via Windows because ... i don't use Windows ...

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

They're a few

Ofc: BIOS doesn't recognize any version (current is 3.20). Tried downloading all of them and placing them in a pen and it still doesn't recognize any of them

Also, and unrelated: anyone ever heard of a powered off PSU (via button) having energy spikes? When i was 1st placing the 2600X, the board's power kicked in and immediately powered off. Wasn't the PSU's button supposed to kill all power to PSU and board?



Can't: reason described just above.

Haven't tried via Windows because ... i don't use Windows ...

They're are a few asrock motherboard with very similar names are you sure you're getting the right bios , try a reflash of the same bios, just to check the flash soft recognise it, you can read the bios and check then cancel the actual flash process at the are you sure check.

 

[IceShroom]

Ofc: BIOS doesn't recognize any version (current is 3.20). Tried downloading all of them and placing them in a pen and it still doesn't recognize any of them

Also, and unrelated: anyone ever heard of a powered off PSU (via button) having energy spikes? When i was 1st placing the 2600X, the board's power kicked in and immediately powered off. Wasn't the PSU's button supposed to kill all power to PSU and board?



Can't: reason described just above.

Haven't tried via Windows because ... i don't use Windows ...

First you need update to bridge BIOS(UEFI), for X370 Tachi is 3.30(make sure though). Then you can update newer BIOS(UEFI) version.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It seems to be 1.5v, but that's for the controller, not for the RAM itself.

This is what I've found as well. I tend to keep it 1.4v at most unless an extreme OC is desired from my clients and then only with liquid cooling.

 

[YautjaLord]

I gotta admit, even though the whole assembly & draining/re-filling thing can get frustrating, it is, i still want to get into all this watercoling stuff, i'm thinking about buying full-cover GPU block from EK for my GX 1070 G1, i have a feeling +95MHz on core/GPU, +190MHz on VRAM is even though impressive to some, is not really that impressive for me. I also wanna see how EK's Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut (liquid metal TIM?) cools my 1700X.

 

[GoldenX]

I would love to have an ITX build with a custom WC just for kicks and lulz.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I gotta admit, even though the whole assembly & draining/re-filling thing can get frustrating, it is, i still want to get into all this watercoling stuff, i'm thinking about buying full-cover GPU block from EK for my GX 1070 G1, i have a feeling +95MHz on core/GPU, +190MHz on VRAM is even though impressive to some, is not really that impressive for me. I also wanna see how EK's Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut (liquid metal TIM?) cools my 1700X.

I think it's a pain but once done, it's right for ages and the messings half the fun ,Do it you know you want to.

 

[HTC]

They're a few

They're are a few asrock motherboard with very similar names are you sure you're getting the right bios , try a reflash of the same bios, just to check the flash soft recognise it, you can read the bios and check then cancel the actual flash process at the are you sure check.

First you need update to bridge BIOS(UEFI), for X370 Tachi is 3.30(make sure though). Then you can update newer BIOS(UEFI) version.

Can't, dudes: board doesn't see any BIOS.

I'm using this page: http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X370 Taichi/index.us.asp#BIOS

I would update it but the board, somehow, refuses to recognize it

 

[ne6togadno]

tried method 2?
http://www.asrock.com/support/BIOSIG.asp?cat=BIOS8