Batman's CaseLabs Mercury S8 Work Computer

[E-curbi]

I can do that but it is not worthy because i would have to buy a Cooler and i am not willing to do that just to score 236cb

A water loop is still ambient cooling.

Let's see what ya got in that processor Knoxxy. Bring it on brosephio!

There's got to be a 9700K or 9900K that can hit 240 or 250 - we just haven't found it yet.

Wait until Siliconlottery gets in a larger batch of 9900Ks and a very small percentage test stable at 5.2GHz. Those will be the chips that can challenge the best 8700Ks and 8086Ks in Single and Slightly Threaded.

Let the overclocking games begin:

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This just in:

Spoke with the Siliconlottery guy this weekend via emails, asking why he stopped delidding and binning the 8700Ks and 8086Ks. I could not understand it , since Intel is still selling them, I mean for those of us who's rigs and apps would benefit more from higher clocks vs the two extra cores on the 9700K and 9900K.

And the dies on the Coffee Lake 8000 Series are nice and thin allowing heat to pull easily away and into the IHS vs the 9000 Series with the solder fiasco - still needing to be delidded, yet the die is "twice as thick" and Der8auer and others have shown the die thickness to be one reason the 9700K and 9900K run so warm. Some have even resorted to grinding or sanding of the dies to thin them out.


Anyhoo, SL has decided to offer the 8700Ks ONCE AGAIN binned and delidded (relidded with Conductonaut liquid metal).


Beginning November 30th or this coming Friday. So far he only has the 8700K 5.2Ghz and 5.3Ghz bins posted.


They are not inexpensive, mostly because 8700Ks that bin at 5.3Ghz amount to only 4% (4 out of every 100) of the total number out in the wild, the top 96th percentile, it's cherry-picked super-efficient silicon.

And no, I don't receive anything from SL for passing on this information, I just like the service the guy offers and I've owned (4) of his binned and delidded CPUs since 2015, all very positive experiences.

I appreciate when the individual core temps idle within plus or minus 2C. To me, that means the application of the liquid metal during relidding has been adequate and uniform.


Maybe he will also bring back a few 8086Ks, if interested, just email him.

 

[FireFox]

This is an old Screenshot:

Finally Aida64 decided to add VRM sensor and weird thing dual Motherboard sensor too

 

[E-curbi]

This is an old Screenshot:

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Finally Aida64 decided to add VRM sensor and weird thing dual Motherboard sensor too

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Whoa, that's a nice Cine ST score bro. 230 Woooooooooooooooooo!

Is that new VRM sensor available in the FREE AIDA64?

I only own the FREE TRIAL AIDA, cuz I'm a dope.

 

[FireFox]

Is that new VRM sensor available in the FREE AIDA64?

I guess yes, just get the newest version of AIDA64 and let me know.

Btw, i am using Aida64 Extreme.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Beat me. lol

Haha, No chance with my 7740x your running binned chips : ), best I've done is 220cb here on a 280mm silent loop.

 

[E-curbi]

Haha, No chance with my 7740x you're running binned chips : ), best I've done is 220cb here on a 280mm silent loop.

Is that cheating? lol

I don't send/validate my scores into the CPUID or HWBot cloud or anything like that, far from a professional or amateur overclocker, I just wished for a more responsive work computer and low and behold - found a way.

But a friendly competition here at TPU would be fun, everyone is invited. If someone needs some help first-time overclockers, I'm willing to walk any TPU member through the bios, initial set-up and volts and multiplier for each clock step by step, it's really not rocket science although the first few times can feel rather daunting and overwhelming.

I walked a few engineering buddies locally through it over the phone and via email, once you get past your first time, it's so easy - becomes 2nd nature.

And I only know the basic 12step set-up, and ballpark voltages per multiplier, never delved into the fine intricacies and nuances of the more than vast ROG bios. Vast? Yes, vast!

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So someone just mentioned this in a TPU news thread:

Intel producing a new series of CPUs using the same mainstream-enthusiast 1151 socket sans (without) the IGP? The new processors will be on the 14+++++ node, arriving in 2019 before Ice Lake and 10nm in 2020. Same Z370/Z390 compatibility. Same model numbers on the CPUs only one letter added to the suffix to denote "no IGP".

Hmmmmm, this sounds very interesting indeed. Will it only be for the 9700K/9900K? Or also include Intel's 6/12 processors? A split die with dual ring bus?

He also says this news is about to leak very soon.

Only in the rumor phase, so bucket of salt.

I'll keep my eyes open and ear to the ground. lol

 

[FireFox]

Is that cheating? lol

@E-curbi
Did you download Aida64?

 

[E-curbi]

@E-curbi
Did you download Aida64?

I did find some motherboard temps under Computer > Sensor in the AIDA Trial Version, VRM, PCH, etc.

 

[FireFox]

I did find some motherboard temps under Computer > Sensor in the AIDA Trial Version, VRM, PCH, etc.

Motherboard and PHC Temps were always shown in the trial Version the VRM sensor has been added in the latest version, glad it is showing in the Trial version.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

once you get past your first time, it's so easy - becomes 2nd nature

I definitely agree, at first I was nervous installing a CPU of all things, I decided to go with an unlocked multiplier board and cpu and eventually decided to follow an OC guide, after that I realized I could push it further than what the guide had stated so It branched off from there.

Is that cheating? lol

Well binned chips are naturally the top 5%-10% silicone so maybe

 

[E-curbi]

Yep, AIDA64 Extreme Free trial does give a lot of functionality away for 30days. I should go ahead and purchase it. As long as it's a single one-time cost I don't mind too much. But those revolving subscriptions, geez too many apps to think about and keep current, doesn't seem worth the constant thought process if used only seldom, and the constant emails wanting you to resubscribe, "We miss you" emails, geez again, my 20cents, my morning gripe. lol

@Xx Tek Tip xX, but but but, Der8bauer uses binned chips and he's my hero.

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The Newegg Black Friday Samsung flash drives arrived:

Extremely small, yet housed in hard metal, and heavy for their diminutive proportions. Samsung calls the aesthetic Titan Gray, blends very well with the CaseLabs gunmetal gray.

I use a superfast Lexar JumpDrive P20 64GB for reformatting Win10 to both rigs, fresh installs are extremely quick to Optane primary/OS drives. These Samsung drives will be for general office tasks, migrating small files, work app activation codes, Acronis emergency boot files, ROG bios flashback updates etc. Finally replacing the two Corsair Voyager 8GB drives I’ve been using since 2012, lol. Got my money's worth.

Anyway, only $16.12 for both drives delivered free shipping, no tax.

Enjoy the pics...(standard Phillips #2 driver and ROG mouse for size reference)

 

[FireFox]

Yep, AIDA64 Extreme Free trial does give a lot of functionality away for 30days.

I sent you a PM yesterday

 

[E-curbi]

I sent you a PM yesterday

Replied just now. lol

Thanks for the fee activation codes. Try them right after lunch...

 

[FireFox]

fee

I guess you meant Free

Well binned chips are naturally the top 5%-10% silicone so maybe

Well sometimes i have that feeling my 8086K is binned even it isn't

 

[E-curbi]

I guess you meant Free

It was a Freudian Slip and nothing more. lol

My subconscious mind adding on the extra undisclosed subscription fees. lol

Thanks again bro.

 

[FireFox]

It was a Freudian Slip and nothing more. lol

My subconscious mind adding on the extra undisclosed fees. lol

Thanks again bro.

Anytime

When does the new Motherboard arrive?

 

[E-curbi]

Anytime

When does the new Motherboard arrive?

Asus doesn’t even have the M11A specifications page up yet.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-XI-APEX/

Last year at this same time I was waiting for the Maximus X Extreme to launch, then sometime in mid-December, Raja let’s everyone know in the ROG Forum, “no Extreme for this gen”, and here I am still waiting for a motherboard to finish this build.

And don’t get me started on the Optane 900P - 905P continuing saga that’s also over one year old by now. Bought (2) 900Ps and returned them both to Newegg, first when a lower power draw was announced on an updated 900P version within an Intel Product Change Notification (.pdf attached) and then a second return when the 905P was announced. What does one person have to do to get some simple blue LEDs into their peripheral field of vision? Yes, of course the 960GB and 1.5GB 905P PCIe blue led skus are available now at $1300 and $2100 respectively, but come on. I would only spend that kind of money if I planned on keeping the drive as primary for 5years or more, and as fast as Optane is developing, I’d rather pick up the lowest capacity/lowest cost drive and replace it every 12-18months with even more responsive Optane. There’s already a PCIe 4.0 (double the bandwidth) Optane sku in development with a faster controller on the way for 2019, so yea, I’d rather update the Primary/OS drive “only and often” while relying on (4) hot-swap SATA drives (that remain constant) for additional storage capacity.

Will I ever finish this build? Pulling my hair out here, pacing so much I’ve worn a crevasse in my carpet. Gotta laugh, cuz if I don’t, I’ll surely cry.

qdms.intel.com/dm/i.aspx/AFF8D243-0AB6-4456-8612.../PCN115990-00.pdf

 

[E-curbi]

Of course, you could transfer a few files by plugging a flash drive into one work rig > hit copy > pull it out > plug it into a second office rig. Yet that takes way too long in a modern face-paced office environment.

Instead, try using a dual port 4K Displayport USB 3.0 KVMP Switch. All you need to do is reassign the focus of the USB Link from CPU1 to CPU2 with 2 simple keystrokes, and your files magically transfer and appear directly in front of you awaiting revision.

My fingers never left the keyboard, and I must have saved at least 4seconds. Plan on re-allocating and/or re-assigning those 4seconds to some quality cuddle time with the gf later this evening. Although it did take me 4seconds to arrive at that plan. lol

K-keyboard
V-video
M-mouse
P-printer or peripheral

The new Samsung drives are fitting right in. They arrive FAT32, easily re-formatted to NTFS or exFAT.

 

[E-curbi]

Today, a list from a very rough (and sketchy?) slide of those mysterious new Intel CPUs sans the IGP (integrated graphics processor) alluded to a few posts back, after being made aware of this new CPU variant in the TPU news forums by TheLostSwede. The letter “F” added to the suffix denoting the absence of the IGP, including two non-K locked processors at the end.

i9-9900KF
i7-9700KF
i5-9600KF
i3-9350KF

i5-9400F
i3-8100F

Sounds like a good idea, Intel finally running out of space on the die or attempting to manage thermals much better by eliminating the on-chip graphics processor?

Wouldn’t it be beyond amazing if Asus applying a bit of forethought reconfigures the new Maximus XI Apex VRM section as “a true 8-phase”, 2chokes per phase and 16chokes in grand total?

With NO IGP Chokes or Mosfets!

Instead of a 7-phase +2 VRM, the extra +2 chokes allocated to the Intel IGP. Yea, that change may not happen until the Maximus 12 Series and PCIe 4.0, wishful thinking.

Now suddenly the 9900KF and 9700KF are looking much more appealing imho, if Intel also reduces the die thickness a bit allowing the solder to do it’s job as intended, while eliminating the IGP, making thermals more manageable.

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2nd slide: looks like X299 will remain current until Q3 2019?

I realize none of this information is confirmed by Intel. But these leaks seem to be how we are fed information in this new era of actual competition from AMD, we plan our builds from leaks since Intel has gone so silent.


..Thanking TPU member TheLostSwede for this amazing tip and info.

...slides from VideoCardz.com.

 

[FireFox]

Wouldn’t it be beyond amazing if Asus applying a bit of forethought reconfigures the new Maximus XI Apex VRM section as “a true 8-phase”, 2chokes per phase and 16chokes in grand total?

Well if the reconfigure my Maximus XI Extreme too in that case i would agree

Joke aside.

That would be nice for the future owners of the Maximus XI Apex but at the same time disappointing for those that like me spent almost 600€ for the Maximus XI Extreme

 

[E-curbi]

Well if the reconfigure my Maximus XI Extreme too in that case i would agree

Joke aside.

That would be nice for the future owners of the Maximus XI Apex but at the same time disappointing for those that like me spent almost 600€ for the Maximus XI Extreme

LOL! LN2 overclockers don't use the IGP do they?

The Maximus XI Extreme Z390 is on sale today at Newegg for $799USD. I realize it's not the Newegg/Asus standard msrp, it's a price set by the online marketplace skarks!

...but still!

...sorry I'm so hard on the M11E. I'm just disappointed - I set my hopes up way too high for that board. I still glance at the Newegg listing and almost consider buying it, only then to return to my sullen and dreadful waiting period for the Apex 11. Ho hum.

 

[FireFox]

The Maximus XI Extreme Z390 is on sale today at Newegg for $799USD

Holy Smoke

do they think that people is Rich?, hope to see you soon joining the Maximus XI Extreme Owner Club

 

[Deleted member 178884]

aximus XI Extreme Z390 is on sale today at Newegg for $799USD.

Ebuyer: Hold my beer

https://www.ebuyer.com/868804-asus-...d-3V3bYxvdaRux1GVKR5Q3kM6khkIS_8aAgXcEALw_wcB

 

[FireFox]

£ 1,845.99 WTF, what's wrong with these people that's and absurd price.

 

[E-curbi]

Holy Smoke

do they think that people is Rich?, hope to see you soon joining the Maximus XI Extreme Owner Club

Could always create a Maximus XI Extreme and Apex Owner’s Club.


Although some of the ROG enthusiasts (like myself) are a bit “extreme” when it comes to their motherboard purchases, especially the feature set, what if conflict arises between the two camps?


"Extreme major dude: my board arrives with sophisticated gold-plated independent LED function-coded rear audio lighting
Apex major dude: yea ok, that’s pretty cool

Extreme major dude: my board has ROG Matrix lens lighting adding to a refined aesthetic
Apex major dude: yea ok, that’s pretty cool

Extreme major dude: my board is a full inch wider than yours, a full E-ATX form factor
Apex major dude: yea, for no apparent reason and your DIMM.2 is useless

Extreme major dude: my board comes equipped with an OLED display for critical system information
Apex major dude: must be talking about the elephant graphic yea that’s real critical. I use an Aquaero 6 LT with comprehensive software and an external OLED display that mounts anywhere in my setup for easy viewing at a glance, and I don’t need to deal with the Asus half-baked AI Suite 3 software

Extreme major dude: my board comes with (2) banks of fan ports so I can run (2) 480mm rads with single bank cooling or (2) 240mm rads in Push-Pull
Apex major dude: I use AquaComputer Splitty9s already purchased long ago, just one has more fan ports available than both water-cooling sections on your board"


See what I mean? The moderators may have to step in once in awhile. Just kidding, we can handle ourselves - more than fine.


On a more somber note: I just found out Walter Becker of Steely Dan passed away. So this Sunday morning song is for Walter.