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[lexluthermiester]

I think 48 is good enough. Sure beats 8 GB!

Yes it does! Chime in with us once you get it and show some pictures.

 

[Lfavald]

Hi, Owners!
owned a t3500/x5670 and did test on aida64 cache and memory, is it good enouph if i got 19000/16000/19000 on it? seems bad, isnt it? may you post your best result on this test?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hi, Owners!
owned a t3500/x5670 and did test on aida64 cache and memory, is it good enouph if i got 19000/16000/19000 on it? seems bad, isnt it? may you post your best result on this test?

Seems alright to me.

 

[Retrorockit]

If that's measuring latency of individual modules then you will get normal DDR3 1333 speeds. Which may seem slow compared to newer tech. But the bandwidth of the 3 channel configuartion will make up for it. The "slow" speed is happeneing 50% more often.

 

[8bitgamer757]

Are there any C2D's that work in my laptop with 6mb Cache?
Is there even a noticeable difference?

 

[SoNic67]

No surprises with the X5690. Nothing unlocked and will not work with RDIMMs in the T3500 board. The CPU did not post at first and thought it was a bad chip. Re-seat in the socket and all is good. Brings me to what someone said about maximum installs. Mechanical stress on the pins? Cannot remember how many with this particular T3500. Ten total? In any case, once the W3680 goes back in it's staying put. Have done enough hardware swaps for a while. May see if I can go above the easy 4.0ghz with some voltage adjustments.

X5687 and X5690 are top dogs in the T5500. Both solid performers. If dual hex core CPU is your goal the X5680 look to be a good deal now. Can get a pair for less than a single X5690.

[edit]
Be aware you may run into a no POST situation with X5675 in that T5500 board depending on BIOS.

Do not think I mentioned this here, but I showed in the ThrottleStop thread (post #213) that the updated BIOS is required to run the X56xx series. Basically I had to boot up with a two QPI 45nm Nehalem (in my case W5590), then download and install the latest BIOS. Only then would it boot up with Westmeres. Intel compatibility page linked in that post.

Thanks, I was worried, but I knew a source of free 2 cores W CPU, so I took a chance. It did post with my 6 core, and now I updated the BIOS to November 2018 one (Spectre, Meltdown fix).

Now, what memory can/should go on the second CPU riser? If I get one that is.

I'll be doing that, then. I think 72 GB is a bit overkill for me hah. I just wanted to future-proof myself so I don't have to upgrade for a very long time. I think 48 is good enough. Sure beats 8 GB!

I just upgraded mine with 48GB of EEC RAM, see my signature. It's sure nice to see all that free RAM in task manager! Can't imagine what I would need more.

 

[jeanpat]

Hello,
What kind of internal HD is it possible to install in T5500 Bios A02? Is ok for example with a seagate barracuda 3TB 5400 rpm sata3, possible issue with the bios?

thank you

 

[Susquehannock]

Hello,
What kind of internal HD is it possible to install in T5500 Bios A02? Is ok for example with a seagate barracuda 3TB 5400 rpm sata3, possible issue with the bios?

thank you

Should be no problem. Will not get full SATA3 transfer speeds since Tx500 are SATA2 machines. Not really a concern with 5,400 rpm drive anyway.

A02 is very old BIOS as you know. Updating to latest A18 is very easy. Download, run the app, and Dell does all the rest. Even re-boot. May even find the system runs a bit faster afterward. Optimizations etc.

>> https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/product/precision-t5500/drivers

 

[Lfavald]

latency of individual modules

those aida64's speed test is for all modules, it's triple channel mode overall

ps. pardn for my engrish

 

[SoNic67]

I found out on eBay a Dell performance cooler for T3500/5500/7500 primary CPU for $14 with shipping: part # U016F

 

[lexluthermiester]

Are there any C2D's that work in my laptop with 6mb Cache?
Is there even a noticeable difference?

Yeah the T9500 mentioned before is a 6mb part. However, you're not really going to notice much difference in common tasks.

I found out on eBay a Dell performance cooler for T3500/5500/7500 primary CPU for $14 with shipping: part # U016F

That's the standard heatsink. The performance cooler had 6 heat pipes IIRC..

 

[Retrorockit]

I found out on eBay a Dell performance cooler for T3500/5500/7500 primary CPU for $14 with shipping: part # U016F

Back on page 17 I did a heatsink/fan swap for Mangupta and his 100*F. ambient situation. Part#s are there. The fan is probably overkill for most peoeple.

 

[SoNic67]

My heatsink has no heat pipes, it's just a lump of aluminum with fins.

 

[Susquehannock]

My heatsink has no heat pipes, it's just a lump of aluminum with fins.

That U016F heatsink will be a big improvement. Especially with a fan attached.

Missed your question about what RAM to use if you get a CPU riser. Both UDIMM and RIMM are possible. Slots must be populated in a certain way. First section in the t5500 service manual is dedicated to memory and explains things much better than I can.

>> https://www.dell.com/support/home/yu/en/yubsdt1/product-support/product/precision-t5500/manuals

 

[SoNic67]

That U016F heatsink will be a big improvement. Especially with a fan attached.

Missed your question about what RAM to use if you get a CPU riser. Both UDIMM and RIMM are possible. Slots must be populated in a certain way. First section in the t5500 service manual is dedicated to memory and explains things much better than I can.

>> https://www.dell.com/support/home/yu/en/yubsdt1/product-support/product/precision-t5500/manuals

Thanks for the link. Explains a lot, especially those rules:

Your computer requires DIMMs within a channel to be populated starting with the DIMMs farthest from the processor first. This means the DIMM slots 1, 2 and 3 must be populated before DIMM slots 4, 5 and 6. In addition, when populating a Quad-rank DIMM with a Single- or Dual-rank DIMM in the same channel, the Quad-rank DIMM must be populated farthest from the CPU.
If configuration contains DIMMs of mixed sizes, populate the larger DIMMs first.
If configuration contains DIMMs of mixed sizes, populate the larger DIMMs in the Riser.

I think there might be an issue with my motherboard. I saw CPU risers on eBay, but some of them said "Not compatible with motherboard 0D883F ".
And that's exactly what I have. Only the newer 0CRH6C supposedly works with the second CPU riser.

On the other hand I also saw "Six core CPU not compatible with motherboard 0D883F". But I have a 6 core CPU in it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

My heatsink has no heat pipes, it's just a lump of aluminum with fins.

Oh yeah, get the better heatsink, it'll be worth it. Mounted a fan on mine for when it's running max mutli clocked(Throttlestop).

I think there might be an issue with my motherboard. I saw CPU risers on eBay, but some of them said "Not compatible with motherboard 0D883F ".
And that's exactly what I have. Only the newer 0CRH6C supposedly works with the second CPU riser.

Specific CPU risers are compatible only with matching motherboards. So you have to find one that matches your board revision, IIRC.

On the other hand I also saw "Six core CPU not compatible with motherboard 0D883F". But I have a 6 core CPU in it.

As long as you have the latest bios revision, the 6core Xeons should work.

 

[jeanpat]

Should be no problem. Will not get full SATA3 transfer speeds since Tx500 are SATA2 machines. Not really a concern with 5,400 rpm drive anyway.

A02 is very old BIOS as you know. Updating to latest A18 is very easy. Download, run the app, and Dell does all the rest. Even re-boot. May even find the system runs a bit faster afterward. Optimizations etc.

>> https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/product/precision-t5500/drivers

Bios A02 is very old (at least, an A06 would be great to upgrade from a xeon e5520 to a xeon x56 serie), but the T5500 is running under Ubuntu and I do not dare to upgrade with the .bin file provided by dell for linux redhat.

 

[Retrorockit]

I hadn't seen any notice of riser revisions. I've just seen them listed for T5500. I have a 0D883F. Could you give a part# when you find out?
Now that I'm looking for this I'm seeing 0623F, and 0H236F (it turns out this is a T7500 part) versions of the riser. What fits what IDK.

I know A02 is very old (at least, a A06 would be great to upgrade from a xeon e5520 to a xeon x56 serie), but the T5500 is running under Ubuntu and I do not dare to upgrade with the .bin file provided by dell for linux redhat.

I'm certainly not an expert at Linux. But I have used Linux Live DVDs to do risky things. Unplug the HDD and boot the live DVD of whatever Linux you need. and flash the BIOS from there.
Your OS and data won't be involved in any way. This is also how I view infected websites I'm interested in.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I know A02 is very old (at least, a A06 would be great to upgrade from a xeon e5520 to a xeon x56 serie), but the T5500 is running under Ubuntu and I do not dare to upgrade with the .bin file provided by dell for linux redhat.

Use a spare hard drive, install Windows 10 in trial mode and update from there.

 

[jeanpat]

Use a spare hard drive, install Windows 10 in trial mode and update from there.

is it possible to make a bootable win7 usb stick? It should be possible

I hadn't seen any notice of riser revisions. I've just seen them listed for T5500. I have a 0D883F. Could you give a part# when you find out?
Now that I'm looking for this I'm seeing 0623F, and 0H236F versions of the riser. What fits what IDK.

I'm certainly not an expert at Linux. But I have used Linux Live DVDs to do risky things. Unplug the HDD and boot the live DVD of whatever Linux you need. and flash the BIOS from there.
Your OS and data won't be involved in any way. This is also how I view infected websites I'm interested in.

The dvd player doesn't work (dvd rotating, but dvd doesn't mount)

 

[Retrorockit]

You may have to be patient. Loading an OS from DVD takes a while. It may just be busy. Once it's in RAM it's OK but setup can take a little while. You do have the DVD in the boot menu in BIOS?
Until it gets set up there's no OS to mount anything to.

 

[jeanpat]

You may have to be patient. Loading an OS from DVD takes a while. It may just be busy. Once it's in RAM it's OK but setup can take a little while. You do have the DVD in the boot menu in BIOS?

Sorry, it happens with different kind of cd/dvd

 

[Susquehannock]

Linux. Cannot help you there. Far as I know T5500 risers should be the same = 0F623F.
0H236F is the T7500 cooler. Physically taller and has six RAM slots instead of three. Seems the two are often mistaken in listings since their number sequencing is similar ... 623 vs 236.

Considered trying the taller T7500 main CPU sink (# U402F) in T3500 but looks like heatpipes would hit side panel.

 

[Retrorockit]

Hmmmm. Thanks for the clarification. I'm still confused but at leat I'm aware of it.
N764D would be a nice cooler to play with if you're up to making the mountings work. Only a little taller than the original.
http://www.ascendtech.us/dell-xps-630-cpu-heatsink-fan-n764d_i_cfncpudelln764d.aspx
Turn the plastic legs around for LGA1366 pattern, swap in the correct thread bolts, and adjust the height if needed.
Newegg has these for $10 and looks like NOS from the photos.

 

[SoNic67]

Far as I know T5500 risers should be the same = 0F623F.

Do you know why some sellers and even some guys on Dell forums say that my board revision won't work with CPU riser? The 6 core compatibility was addressed by a BIOS update, maybe that's something similar with the CPU riser?