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Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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I see a bit of difference in the rain drops splashing there.
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5700X |
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Let me reword your question: "why can game A look better and run faster than game B, both at the same time?"Something doesn't seem right: the "new" ultra is faster then the "old" low across all resolutions. There's just no way that can be done without messing with image quality.
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I guess overclocking only improves Rasterization performance which is bottlenecked by RT cores when ray tracing is enabled.
You might see some improvements here and there but it's not going to be as effective as Usual.
Don't know for sure ,I may be wrong.
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Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
Which is why mastering the technical side is not enough. You need your artists/designers to learn how to integrate the new tech into their work, too.I still don't like how RTX looks but you can't knock the performance increase no matter what 'side' you are one. Kudos to all involved.
Sorry but this statement is complete garbage. It was clear from the announcement RTX was going to have a significant performance hit. I'd challenge you to find even ONE respectable website/commentator who was expecting a "20% at most" performance hit before release. Hint - you won't find one.Much of that public hate was justified at the time, because everybody expected the performance impact of RTX to be around 20% at most,
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Benchmark Scores | I don't play benchmarks... |
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Processor | 4790K |
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Video Card(s) | 2x780Ti |
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So, a 38% performance hit for this?..
The bloody thing looks like a 16x16 texture...
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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That shadow looks terrible... but does it have anything to do with RT?So, a 38% performance hit for this?..
The bloody thing looks like a 16x16 texture...
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Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
The thing is not about reputable sources. The thing is most of these expectations were coming from people that don't know ray tracing (why would they, if they're not into CGI?) and were thinking this is something like a new DX version.Sorry but this statement is complete garbage. It was clear from the announcement RTX was going to have a significant performance hit. I'd challenge you to find even ONE respectable website/commentator who was expecting a "20% at most" performance hit before release. Hint - you won't find one.
You are basically creating a blatant straw man argument to justify your argument that RTX sucked at launch. Please stop making things up and focus on real analysis.
That's all.
Shadows are probably ray traced, too. Low and medium settings probably cut back on the number of rays used more than they should?That shadow looks terrible... but does it have anything to do with RT?
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Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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Processor | Intel 14900KS |
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Motherboard | ASUS Maximus Z690 Extreme |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | Asus Prime X570 Pro |
Cooling | Deepcool LS-720 |
Memory | 32 GB (4x 8GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Radeon RX 7900 XTX Red Devil |
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Power Supply | Seasonic 750W Focus+ Platinum |
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Sorry, they rarely do english content.English....................
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | Asus Prime X570 Pro |
Cooling | Deepcool LS-720 |
Memory | 32 GB (4x 8GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Radeon RX 7900 XTX Red Devil |
Storage | Samsung PM9A1 (980 Pro OEM) + 960 Evo NVMe SSD + 830 SATA SSD + Toshiba & WD HDD's |
Display(s) | Samsung C32HG70 |
Case | Lian Li O11D Evo |
Audio Device(s) | Sound Blaster Zx |
Power Supply | Seasonic 750W Focus+ Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G703 Lightspeed |
Keyboard | SteelSeries Apex Pro |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
They're 1:1 crops, around 2:53'ish mark, easiest place to spot the effect considering all the overlays on video.THose pictures are tiny... I'll look in the vido. Thanks!
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Memory | 48 GB |
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Shadows are not raytraced, only reflections areShadows are probably ray traced, too
Much to the chagrin of the NVIDIA haters DXR has turned not to be a dud/failure it was portrayed to be. Also, just also, real time ray tracing has been a pipe dream up to this moment however for some reasons people fail to appreciate the monumental work that NVIDIA has poured into the technology to make it possible. I'm not buying any of the available RTX cards but that's because I don't live in an economically developed country and this card is just too expensive for me. But I will surely consider the RTX 3060 once it becomes available. Meanwhile I'm quite content with the GTX 1060. While Europeans/Americans (I guess most of TPU visitors) enjoy an income of over $2500 a month, I earn literal pennies in comparison, so I'm not sure where this "NVIDIA is ripping everyone off" comes from.
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Benchmark Scores | 3DMark FireStrike Score : needs updating |
they are combinations of the ray tracing + ssr and no they dont cut out EVER.PC Games & Hardware confirmed one source of added performance: vegetation reflections are no longer raytraced, they're now screenspace reflections
When I watched the official Nvidia yt video I thought they lowered the amount of leaves blowing around too. @ 0:33
Those are variable by scene.I see a bit of difference in the rain drops splashing there.
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You don't like how the card looks or how ray tracing (RT) looks? RTX are the cards.![]()
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So, a 38% performance hit for this?..
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The bloody thing looks like a 16x16 texture...