X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[dalekdukesboy]

Count me in. (Sabertooth and 4930k).I just got this again after 5 months. I sold this pc off my mate and he gave me for free as he went back home... Let's abuse this hardware. LolView attachment 121804

Oooh nice, 4930k interesting, haven't seen that cpu show up here much so interested to see what that does with the sabretooth board, which I also haven't seen that often. WELCOME!!

LinX is a very heavy going test, so putting nearly 1.6vcore through the CPU which is stock at 1.1vcore or 1.2v at most(??) might stress and de-grade it a little. If you run the tests over and over it will kill it. Had it with a bench years ago. Stock speeds, XTU, it killed several i3 6320's as they where running and running the same test over and over to get the most amount of points they could. I know as I did it as well. When they released the unlock bios for overclocking the CPU it went nuts.. But even then, the CPU really did degrade fast and i never lasted, I have an RMA'd one in one of my OCF boards (I'd like to swap it for a 6700k if I can find a decent priced one) and likewise for the same of the Xeon..

I admire the overclocking and pushing to the limits, but you over do it if it was a cherry picked chip it'll just die slowly and it just won't last at all.. That's what I think might have happened. I'd also note that I think Xeon's do have a lower operating temp too, so just be weary as I'm sure you are

I'm only getting across a point of view as well, I mean no ill feelings by it either I don't want to see dead hardware posts etc

Oh that 1.5 volts was for 5 minutes of the cpu's entire life. I've only done that couple times including that just to see what top end is and to do a benchmark or two. I was only testing 128 mb of memory so it was like 50 seconds lol. Most of its' life this xeon has had about 1.37-1.45 volts through it depending on the OC, still a relatively high number compared to stock at 3.0 ghz but not nearly high enough I think to cause the kind of death your cpu's suffered. I know you said you were doing stock but I don't do any of the crazy 24/7 number crunching for points or bitcoin etc like a lot of people do and sounds like you did some variation of; THAT will definitely leave a mark so to speak.

So your opinion is welcome by the way, whether I totally agree think it's complete bs or anywhere in between is all good I just want people posting here. As long as it isn't to the point where Tatty or a moderator has to break it up and hand out points lol. Truthfully....I'm a rabble rouser so I kinda find that stuff amusing but I'd like people to stay out of trouble and my thread not to get banned .

 

[BarbaricSoul]

 

[phill]

Oh that 1.5 volts was for 5 minutes of the cpu's entire life. I've only done that couple times including that just to see what top end is and to do a benchmark or two. I was only testing 128 mb of memory so it was like 50 seconds lol. Most of its' life this xeon has had about 1.37-1.45 volts through it depending on the OC, still a relatively high number compared to stock at 3.0 ghz but not nearly high enough I think to cause the kind of death your cpu's suffered. I know you said you were doing stock but I don't do any of the crazy 24/7 number crunching for points or bitcoin etc like a lot of people do and sounds like you did some variation of; THAT will definitely leave a mark so to speak.

So your opinion is welcome by the way, whether I totally agree think it's complete bs or anywhere in between is all good I just want people posting here. As long as it isn't to the point where Tatty or a moderator has to break it up and hand out points lol. Truthfully....I'm a rabble rouser so I kinda find that stuff amusing but I'd like people to stay out of trouble and my thread not to get banned .

This was the test back in the day that the CPU died running - Intel XTU I believe it uses AVX instructions which is what was killing off the CPUs, it happened to a load of people who were running the test when competing. I would hate to think how many times I had run it on the CPU but it definitely did it no favours, this was at near as made no difference, stock speeds. If I remember correctly, we run around 103Mhz on the FSB and that's as far as it would go.. (maybe a bit under) so it didn't really matter on what volts you used, as it wouldn't go high enough to need pushing it further. Link from my HWBot page It was the last test I bothered competiting with HWBot, I got rid of a load of hardware, yet now I think I've end with even more!! So much for giving it up... Still...

The number crunching is less harmful than running LinX and the like I'm sure WCG the temps doesn't get near the temps in LinX. With so many spare PCs around and solar panels, it seems a little nuts to not do something with the hardware, crunching for cancer is at least something hopefully that gives back Also using Xeon's too

Either way my posts are literally just to say be careful what you test and what volts you put through things. I'm more than sure you'd know regardless but just being a concerned member etc I hate dead hardware, as my good friend @TheMadDutchDude will vouch for ...

Enjoy the overclocking but enjoy the hardware more

 

[raptori]

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How is this possible ? 0.688v and 4500Mhz and temp is ~70c !!

 

[BarbaricSoul]

voltage is actually at 1.4 volts, not sure why, but CPU-Z only shows half the voltage for some reason. Cooling is with a Deepcool Assassin heat sink.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

This was the test back in the day that the CPU died running - Intel XTU I believe it uses AVX instructions which is what was killing off the CPUs, it happened to a load of people who were running the test when competing. I would hate to think how many times I had run it on the CPU but it definitely did it no favours, this was at near as made no difference, stock speeds. If I remember correctly, we run around 103Mhz on the FSB and that's as far as it would go.. (maybe a bit under) so it didn't really matter on what volts you used, as it wouldn't go high enough to need pushing it further. Link from my HWBot page It was the last test I bothered competiting with HWBot, I got rid of a load of hardware, yet now I think I've end with even more!! So much for giving it up... Still...

The number crunching is less harmful than running LinX and the like I'm sure WCG the temps doesn't get near the temps in LinX. With so many spare PCs around and solar panels, it seems a little nuts to not do something with the hardware, crunching for cancer is at least something hopefully that gives back Also using Xeon's too

Either way my posts are literally just to say be careful what you test and what volts you put through things. I'm more than sure you'd know regardless but just being a concerned member etc I hate dead hardware, as my good friend @TheMadDutchDude will vouch for ...

Enjoy the overclocking but enjoy the hardware more

Yeah never even heard of that. Also I will respectfully disagree about crunching vs. linx....because that is a 24/7 non-ending assault of the cpu linx I use for minutes or less and only in short bursts. I've literally been abusing hardware since....pentium iv and then my athlon fx-55, both of which I still have by the way and STILL work but obviously ended up in boxes and are just momentos now lol. Anyway I appreciate the concern and even just an opinion so I have another. Believe it or not, I've seen many threads with people insisting on running linx or IBT for 24 hours for stability....that made even me cringe. Anyway crunching for cancer is a good cause, but I was thinking more of the people who do it for bitcoins and the other million crazes out there that caused GPU shortages etc. I realize some of those obviously focus on the GPU and some must be more CPU but either way your stressing something constantly.

voltage is actually at 1.4 volts, not sure why, but CPU-Z only shows half the voltage for some reason. Cooling is with a Deepcool Assassin heat sink.

Nice, and good to see you here!

 

[phill]

Yeah never even heard of that. Also I will respectfully disagree about crunching vs. linx....because that is a 24/7 non-ending assault of the cpu linx I use for minutes or less and only in short bursts. I've literally been abusing hardware since....pentium iv and then my athlon fx-55, both of which I still have by the way and STILL work but obviously ended up in boxes and are just momentos now lol. Anyway I appreciate the concern and even just an opinion so I have another. Believe it or not, I've seen many threads with people insisting on running linx or IBT for 24 hours for stability....that made even me cringe. Anyway crunching for cancer is a good cause, but I was thinking more of the people who do it for bitcoins and the other million crazes out there that caused GPU shortages etc. I realize some of those obviously focus on the GPU and some must be more CPU but either way your stressing something constantly.

That's the other reason for not overclocking the system that it runs on as high as it will go My 5960X runs @ 4.20Ghz, @ 1.06vcore, it'll run 4.80+Ghz no problem but why would I do that? Most of my crunching systems run stock clocked or even slightly undervolted because of it being more efficient (bit like Mining really. Never ran anything 100%+ more like 80% and undervolted, a lot )

Still in the past I have found the the WCG stuff stress tests overclocks much better than some tests like LinX or Prime95.. Long story short, my E6600 I had ran for 16 hours without any issues, 30 seconds of WCG, it was dropping work units... Unreal I only run WCG whilst the suns out, having 7 or 8 rigs on running at once, really does use up the juice!! Thank god for solar panels

Ah the FX-55, something I always hoped to have one day but never had lol

More so, on topic - Have you many X79 systems/CPUs you test on?

 

[dalekdukesboy]

That's the other reason for not overclocking the system that it runs on as high as it will go My 5960X runs @ 4.20Ghz, @ 1.06vcore, it'll run 4.80+Ghz no problem but why would I do that? Most of my crunching systems run stock clocked or even slightly undervolted because of it being more efficient (bit like Mining really. Never ran anything 100%+ more like 80% and undervolted, a lot )

Still in the past I have found the the WCG stuff stress tests overclocks much better than some tests like LinX or Prime95.. Long story short, my E6600 I had ran for 16 hours without any issues, 30 seconds of WCG, it was dropping work units... Unreal I only run WCG whilst the suns out, having 7 or 8 rigs on running at once, really does use up the juice!! Thank god for solar panels

Ah the FX-55, something I always hoped to have one day but never had lol

More so, on topic - Have you many X79 systems/CPUs you test on?

Only one X79 at a time, gone through a few mobos for various reasons and I have some extra cpus that are fine just upgraded eventually to this 8 core. Yeah I admit never heard of WCG but obviously it's very strenuous.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Yeah I admit never heard of WCG but obviously it's very strenuous.

It's what had my 3930k at 100% full load in the screenshot I posted the other day

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/world-community-grid-wcg.68/

 

[dalekdukesboy]

It's what had my 3930k at 100% full load in the screenshot I posted the other day

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/world-community-grid-wcg.68/

So what is WCG exactly?

 

[BarbaricSoul]

So what is WCG exactly?

WCG= World Community Grid

from thier web site-

When you become a World Community Grid volunteer, you donate your device’s spare computing power to help scientists solve the world’s biggest problems in health and sustainability.

Scientists need help
They’re searching the microscopic world for answers to our biggest problems, but it’s hard to know where to start. That’s why many use computer simulations to point them in the right direction, just as explorers rely on maps to find their way.
Finding answers is tough, and without more computers, doing scientific research can be a bit like exploring with an incomplete map\

Your device makes a difference
World Community Grid turns your device into an explorer. You choose a research area, download a toolkit called BOINC and join the thousands of volunteers helping to chart the microscopic jungle.

Get results that matter
As a World Community Grid volunteer, your device does research calculations when it’s idle, so just by using it as you do every day, you can help scientists get results in months instead of decades. With your help, they can identify the most important areas to study in the lab, bringing them one step closer to discoveries that save lives and address global problems.

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/discover.action#what-if

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/world-community-grid-wcg.68/

 

[johnspack]

I'm thinking of going to 8gb sticks and get 32gbs of 2400 gskill which is dirt cheap now compared to when I bought my original ram.
Then I could get 32 more which is what I originally wanted. Can I run ram at 2133 on my platform, does anyone know? My 1866 sticks
won't go higher. Since sandy-e borrows from ivy such as pci-3, I'm thinking it might have ivy's improved imc.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

I'd be curious about how faster RAM would improve my X79's performance also. This is the kit I was looking at- https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

 

[johnspack]

So am I, before I abandon x79 and go to x99.... but still 560can total for 64gbs... maybe I should just invest in ddr4 at this point.
If i did just 32, I could sell 16 of my old stuff off. Sure would like to see if ol betsy could do 2133....

 

[phill]

WCG= World Community Grid

from thier web site-

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/discover.action#what-if

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/forums/world-community-grid-wcg.68/

Feel free to join TPU

 

[TheUnbrained]

Hey guys

my 3970x doesnt get behind 4,2ghz@1,381v... if i set more than this x42 multiplier in bios, my cpu still uses max x42... any ideas?
(+ in singlecore it gets ripped by my good old ivy-dt i7 3770...)

 

[agent_x007]

"High Performance" power plan ?

 

[TheUnbrained]

"High Performance" power plan ?

its my current plan

 

[agent_x007]

Power limits in BIOS ?

 

[dalekdukesboy]

RIVE Black incoming, just fyi I should have it by Monday or so. I considered moving to new cpu or having multiples' but one is enough for me (for now) and all I can afford lol, hence why I have kept X79 for almost 8 years lol. Anyway nice guy on Ebay literally gave me whole history of board and he said some interesting stuff that overlaps on comments y'all have had on 26xx series xeon's he actually had a V1 in it that was 8 cores. Sadly for this thread and info he had a nice V2 in it but he used it like twice before he upgraded to X299 hence why he sold board. I'll post the information he gave me soon, stay tuned! I'll see if he tells me more definitely a fellow tech geek, told him about techpower too so even plugged our site lol.

Hey guys

my 3970x doesnt get behind 4,2ghz@1,381v... if i set more than this x42 multiplier in bios, my cpu still uses max x42... any ideas?
(+ in singlecore it gets ripped by my good old ivy-dt i7 3770...)

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Interesting, welcome! That cpu rarely shows up anywhere kind of an interesting one you got there. Admittedly I've never had an X79 board that did anything like that for OC'ing, but I haven't had anything but Asus Rampage's, and I have heard of a few boards that have settings in bios that are screwy that can limit OC if you don't set them correctly. I'll have to google your board and see if I find anything, but welcome and I'll see what I can find out! Power plan was good guess by other posters, a certain possibility

 

[dalekdukesboy]

FYI....black is back, I'm typing from a RIVE Black! Should be good sound and everything works on it, no blue screens in windows AND better yet none of those random shut offs of the last Black board. Still working on stable configuration but working well so far without some of weird glitches of a couple of my past boards.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

FYI....black is back, I'm typing from a RIVE Black! Should be good sound and everything works on it, no blue screens in windows AND better yet none of those random shut offs of the last Black board. Still working on stable configuration but working well so far without some of weird glitches of a couple of my past boards.

these are my settings for 4.5GHz with my 3930k and Rampage IV Black Edition

 

[TheUnbrained]

Interesting, welcome! That cpu rarely shows up anywhere kind of an interesting one you got there. Admittedly I've never had an X79 board that did anything like that for OC'ing, but I haven't had anything but Asus Rampage's, and I have heard of a few boards that have settings in bios that are screwy that can limit OC if you don't set them correctly. I'll have to google your board and see if I find anything, but welcome and I'll see what I can find out! Power plan was good guess by other posters, a certain possibility

sorry for my late answer, busy with work atm.

powerplan is set correctly, no power limits in bios aaaaaand well... i cannot find anything of my board. the support site is offline too...

at least, ive downloaded all biosfiles i could find. the problem is: old bioses had many oc settings but only the latest one without these setting works with my 1070ti (thank god i had my good old hd6970 around then)

well, maybe i save some money and get a 2011-3 build with a 22-core xeon (more cores are better in my use case)

 

[dalekdukesboy]

these are my settings for 4.5GHz with my 3930k and Rampage IV Black Edition

I'm playing around now trying to find a stable "baseline" because I was trying 4.6 ghz + and was struggling a bit. So I took my 1680 and also got a stable run @ 4.5 ghz and here are an idea of a few settings at least including cpu voltage as well as memory benchmarks. The cpu load was 1.36/1.376 with ultra high llc setting. Hopefully I can tweak it down I just put it where I was pretty sure it'd be more than enough....I also put a couple of the "spread spectrums" on because I always left them off because it says stuff may overclock better without them but it also says it can improve stability, so I'm trying them on for something different. However everything I read about it claims stability is last thing spread spectrum does in any way just is worse when you overclock, it's only on board for FCC purposes/regulation....interesting.

One thing I notice is rather than 4.49 ghz it is 4.48 ghz so that must have something to do with that setting, who knows maybe that is all it does is just under clock the cpu slightly lol.

Couple of settings were on auto or I'd list them.

I had few minutes so lowered voltage and tried same settings, I got full 10 runs I took picture at 9 just to show load voltage 1.344, once if finished it sat at 1.325 but still pretty encouraged it's taking well under 1.35 volts to do 4.5 ghz 8 cores with 2666 mhz memory at half decent timings.

 

[agent_x007]

Just set BCLK to 125.1MHz.