Xeon Owners Club

[lexluthermiester]

lexluthermiester, LGA1356 is a server platform indeed. However, there are several Chinese manufacturers which make desktop personal use motherboards for LGA1156, 1366, 1356, 2011 and other obsolete Xeon CPUs which were decommissioned from data centers, etc.

Yup, try finding one that has all the bells and whistles someone would want in a consumer grade motherboard that is not a crippled MATX board. Then you have to luck into a good performing 1356 CPU. It's easier to find and put together workstation versions of Xeon CPU's. Unless you get lucky or make a lot of compromises, Socket 1356 is a waste of time and money, IMHO.

 

[Auer]

So with all the new CPU's just released...I still don't feel a particularly strong need to move on from my 1620-0.
Sure things are faster and "better", but not really for what I'm doing anyhow.

I have as of late been very tempted by Zotac's mini Xeon workstation tho, If only I could get one without the GPU and stick my RTX2070 in there...

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[Edwired]

Well looks like the asus p5q premium starting to give up the ghost it starting to freeze alot even everything is stock and voltage reading startinng to drop massive in idle the 12v is 11.293v and drop all the way to 11.706v under heavy load during resident evil 2 remake as the sewer area is fairly taxing. But the asus p5q pro voltage reading for 12v stay above 12.040v during resident evil 2 remake no trouble at all. The best i can get out the same xeon e5450 is 3.7ghz @ 1.136v @ 412 fsb on the asus p5q pro any higher than 425 fsb it crashing no matter what voltages or settings i set doesnt improve anything. Look like i have to scout about for an asus p5q deluxe or premium when i have time

 

[freeagent]

You could try to give the plug a jiggle where it connects to the board, I have that on my x58 system.. That plug has been used so often that I need to ziptie the line in place so there is no pressure on it and kinda set it where I need to. If I use a new psu its great, but remove it a few times and you lose your tight fitting and good readings. My z77 system was so tight when I got it I thought I was going to pull the socket out of the board.. its not like that now, and the socket is starting to loosen up, but the readings are still good after a minor jiggle here and there

 

[Edwired]

I kinda did noticed that before but the problem is the board already had problems since the day i bought it as i dont know the history of abuse the last owner did to it. But im looking around for another asus p5q deluxe or premium dont know if anyone on here have one that they want to sell it to me?

 

[DR4G00N]

You could try to give the plug a jiggle where it connects to the board, I have that on my x58 system.. That plug has been used so often that I need to ziptie the line in place so there is no pressure on it and kinda set it where I need to. If I use a new psu its great, but remove it a few times and you lose your tight fitting and good readings. My z77 system was so tight when I got it I thought I was going to pull the socket out of the board.. its not like that now, and the socket is starting to loosen up, but the readings are still good after a minor jiggle here and there

Yeah the ATX connectors wear after a while, both my X58 Classified boards have issues with their 24-pin connections. One gives an FF post code on boot until you get the connector in the right spot, the other has bad contact with the +3.3V pin's causing them to get hot and making the voltage drop over time.

Though that was with my old PSU, with my "new" one they don't do that anymore.

 

[Edwired]

As i have to check that and see if any of the solder pads on the back of the 24 pins that needs reflowing. As for 5v reads 4.8xxv and 3.3v is 3.1xxv as that from memory cant think of the exact number. Can the 24pins port can give all sort of problems with voltage reading?

 

[DR4G00N]

As i have to check that and see if any of the solder pads on the back of the 24 pins that needs reflowing. As for 5v reads 4.8xxv and 3.3v is 3.1xxv as that from memory cant think of the exact number. Can the 24pins port can give all sort of problems with voltage reading?

Are you checking with a multimeter? The software can give some false readings and are usually inaccurate.

 

[Phaet0n]

Xeon E5-2678 v3 with turbo boost mod. 2008 Cb for only 160 €!

 

[Edwired]

Im going by the bios voltage reading i found a few voltage points for the 5v 3.3v and 12v on the board as they drop good bit during heavy load as the hwinfo64 is on par with the voltage reading according to the bios so it not misleading there as i think the 24 pin port can have the stress of the cable folded into the case maybe causing solder microcracks but i could be wrong.

I will give the 24 pins with fresh solder reflow along with liquid flux later tonight to see if any improvement is made as i have nothing to lose as i be getting another board some day soon

Final attempt is to reflow the motherboard 24 pin and cpu 8 pin and used brake cleaner to flush out any debris in every chip that is power related and last the electical contact cleaner for overall motherboard. I got good and bad news. I got back the 3.3v reading close to 3.296v, 5v is 4.968v but the 12v seems stuck at 11.760v i suppose that i used a old 250w psu just to get the bosrd to fire up. Once i get a chance to put it into the case and see if the 12v jump up or get stuck

 

[Edwired]

Finally it kicked the bucket no more posting due to 2 missing pins in the bottem right of the socket. At least it had a farewell send off. But the good news is it getting replaced by asus p5q deluxe which i picked up as a bundle that came with a ati hd7450 graphic card, 4x 2gb gskill ram, not sure which noctua headsink model, not sure what cpu and at a awsome price for €65. At least i look after this board this time

 

[Edwired]

Looks like i could be getting the asus p5q deluxe in the post tomorrow morning. Cant wait to overclock the snots out of the e5450. Regarding i found out what was exactly wrong with the asus p5q premium without any parts installed i get 12..096v across the board but as soon the cpu was installed it shot down to 11.706v across the board must be pins touching or bridging something inside the socket causing all the trouble before it stopped posting for good. At least i learned alot from overclocking. Will post up a few pictures once i have the asus p5q deluxe up and running in a few days

Yay the asus p5q deluxe came today it a pretty clean board along with core 2 duo wolfdale e8500, noctua c12p heatsink i think and 4 pair of gskill 6400 2gb each. Nice bonus the asus p5q deluxe has a revision of 1.03g i will upload pictures later

 

[Edwired]

Have the board up and running ran into a snag with windows 10 activation issue had to buy another key to get it working again. Will do some tweaking before i upload a few pictures once it done

 

[lexluthermiester]

Have the board up and running ran into a snag with windows 10 activation issue had to buy another key to get it working again. Will do some tweaking before i upload a few pictures once it done

You buy way too many keys...

 

[Tabace]

I've been running a Ti for a year now on an X58...literally no one believes me when I tell them it is close. I hope this settles it

Filip I can not send you PM, so pls, just take look at this, notice me Senpai

http://imgur.com/0qqz2Zx

 

[Edwired]

You buy way too many keys...

It not that as windows 10 just deactivated itself as of hardware did not match for some strange reason as it my second key as my first one was used up due to windows 10 had a couple of brainfarts and corruptions a while back as i found it through a ebay seller as he has 100% feedback. So at this moment i got the 4ghz overclock back doing alot better had to fiddle with the settings to get it stable enough to test resident evil 2 remake as it holding up with minor stuttering as it mostly to do with northbridge voltage as too high it crashes so i had do dial in 1.30v for it to get stable with all 4 dimms populated. As well llc disabled cranked the vcore to 1.35000v it fully loaded @ 1.272v during the game with cpu and gpu usage hovering 93% to 96% just to see if any crashes pops up as temps are below 50c. I will upload the final picture when i get a chance once i get to 4.4ghz

 

[Edwired]

my current overclock is getting better over time a long way to go to get to the current 4.37ghz which i'm trying to beat my own personal record in cinebench r15. The cpu temperature havent hit the 60c yet

 

[Zyll Goliat]

So my "old"system SSD disk died recently and I get new SSD Kingston 240Gb A400 and as I already have the identical disk I decide to try to do the RAID 0 with this two(cheap)SSD disks....Welll things is that Sata 3 Marvell controller on X58 mobo's(at least on my board) is a bit cranky and not allowing to Raid disks so I put them instead in Sata II Raid-0 with regular intel controller...here are the comparison and results in crystal disk benchmark...

So far system&games performs fast with 0 problems and maybe a bit snappier then before.....Anyway I am not recommending this IF you are not pure enthusiast and don't care much about your data as disks in raid 0 works faster but when one of them die you will lost all yours data......

 

[Edwired]

Ouch what happened to the the ssd i wonder no power or fried rice i say. I noticed that marvel chipset is slower than intel chipset for some reason p5q deluxe sata 2 seems to top out just about unders 145mb/s through hdtune software i dont know if that what causing that

broken my record in cinebench with 4.41ghz

 

[ManGupta]

 

[lexluthermiester]

Phil did one on a similar CPU as well, the E5-2430v2.

 

[ManGupta]

Phil did one on a similar CPU as well, the E5-2430v2.

Both Youtubers are correct in their own way .........

The main issue with Phil's presentation was unreliable quality of Chinese Motherboard. But probably Steve is unaware or Solid and reliable system like Dell T3500, HP Z400 etc. Although Used Asus or Gigabyte X58 or X79 MBs cost tons of money.

Another thing is that we are considering the price of new Ryzens, whereas after consumer launch of Ryzen 3xxx series aka Zen2, many of the first gen ryzens like Ryzen 5 1600 and B350 MBs may start hitting used PC Parts Markets, challenging the value king status of Older Xeons. So it will be Used Xeons Vs Used Ryxens.

TDP of Ryzen5 1600 is only 65 watts. Other benefits - UEFI BIOS, PCIE Gen3, Sata3, USB3, M.2 NVME SSD support (all without PCIE Adapters)

 

[Tabace]

So my "old"system SSD disk died recently and I get new SSD Kingston 240Gb A400 and as I already have the identical disk I decide to try to do the RAID 0 with this two(cheap)SSD disks....Welll things is that Sata 3 Marvell controller on X58 mobo's(at least on my board) is a bit cranky and not allowing to Raid disks so I put them instead in Sata II Raid-0 with regular intel controller...here are the comparison and results in crystal disk benchmark...

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So far system&games performs fast with 0 problems and maybe a bit snappier then before.....Anyway I am not recommending this IF you are not pure enthusiast and don't care much about your data as disks in raid 0 works faster but when one of them die you will lost all yours data......

Is there PCIE X4 adapter to SATA 3 6 gb/s from which i can boot?I own Asus P6T Deluxe V2. and Samsung EVO 860, i would love to skip RAID 0 setup ...

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

Both Youtubers are correct in their own way .........

The main issue with Phil's presentation was unreliable quality of Chinese Motherboard. But probably Steve is unaware or Solid and reliable system like Dell T3500, HP Z400 etc. Although Used Asus or Gigabyte X58 or X79 MBs cost tons of money.

Another thing is that we are considering the price of new Ryzens, whereas after consumer launch of Ryzen 3xxx series aka Zen2, many of the first gen ryzens like Ryzen 5 1600 and B350 MBs may start hitting used PC Parts Markets, challenging the value king status of Older Xeons. So it will be Used Xeons Vs Used Ryxens.

TDP of Ryzen5 1600 is only 65 watts. Other benefits - UEFI BIOS, PCIE Gen3, Sata3, USB3, M.2 NVME SSD support (all without PCIE Adapters)

That's part of the reason I picked up the Z420 with Ivy Bridge-E. It has all but the NVMe support, and that feature really doesn't do all that much for me. I could still add it with the PCIe card if I really really needed a fast drive, but honestly, SATA SSDs are good enough for me. I could run those in RAID and get even better.

 

[Edwired]

Im glad i got my goal with the e5450 been pushed to the brink i say it crying for mercy. Next is to fine tune the ram timing to get it somewhat stable i managed to run dirt rally 2.0 on 4.41ghz seems ok to run but resident evil 2 remake was not happy at all was getting appication error 1000 linked to 0xc0000005 i know for sure one or few ram timings need adjusting to recorrect that problem. Will have to invest in watercooling kit someday soon