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[Edwired]

Is it just me or are these WD Green SSD's just slow as hell? I mean I'm only stuck on SII due to having an X58 board.... makes me wonder if finding a PCI-E SSD with boot support for the spare x8 slots I have to get a better drive system than this. Only problem is I can't find any of the Intel 750 series but they're quite expensive for what they are anyway, and there an't many other PCI-E slot based SSD's doing the rounfds.

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That about the same read and write on my asus p5q deluxe as sata 2 is around that rate of mb/s unlike the claimed 300mb/s that motherboard company made so it must be something they used or did to make that sort of bold claim to get to 300mb/s is my guess. If everyone start doing the ssd or hd benchtest on sata 2 port only so we can compare results i think it would be useful if anyone agree

This is what im getting on asus p5q deluxe not bad at all

 

[MrGRiMv25]

That about the same read and write on my asus p5q deluxe as sata 2 is around that rate of mb/s unlike the claimed 300mb/s that motherboard company made so it must be something they used or did to make that sort of bold claim to get to 300mb/s is my guess. If everyone start doing the ssd or hd benchtest on sata 2 port only so we can compare results i think it would be useful if anyone agree

This is what im getting on asus p5q deluxe not bad at all
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Is that one a Sata 3GB's platform as they're really good speeds considering the overhead etc. Was thinking of either raid 1 for two WD Greens to at least bump the speed up a bit. I'd rather have the PCI-E slot option as I can at least get 8x PCIE2 bandwidth from the drive.

I did find a 960G Intel 750 PCI-E SSD for roughly £150 on eBay which would have been well worth it but someone snagged it before me as my wages go in on a Thursday and the item sold late Wednesday night....

(As a side note, I made sure the drive was plugged into the blue slot on the HP board which they recommend for the boot drive)

 

[Edwired]

Yea it the 3gb/s phatform. Here my tip for snapping up itemz on ebay click the buy now as it allows you to pay up to a week as tell the seller that way you have payment in 3 days. That how i got alot of computer parts cheap

the ssd benchtest was on intel driver as i posted just above
this image shows a better improvement with microsoft driver

Probably not worth it. I run SATA 2 on my second system and it's fast enough. SATA 3 can also be slower than SATA 2 in some ways, depending on the controller. My second system has a P7P55PD-E (P55 chipset) and this board has SATA 2 as part of the chipset and SATA 3 on an extra chip. In my testing, the SATA 3 has better sequential performance than SATA 2 but worse performance for 4k reads and writes. Based on these results I decided to use SATA 2 on this system.

Here's the drive benchmarks I did on my second system using both SATA versions:
System: P7P55PD-E, Xeon X3440 @ 3,4Ghz, 2x4GB DDR3-1800, samsung 840 pro 256GB

using P7P55PD-E SATA 2 port:
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using P7P55PD-E SATA 3 port:
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You want to update the cystaldiskmark to 6.0.2 as i was getting better reading than the 5.2.2 you got in sata 2

 

[MrGRiMv25]

Yea it the 3gb/s phatform. Here my tip for snapping up itemz on ebay click the buy now as it allows you to pay up to a week as tell the seller that way you have payment in 3 days. That how i got alot of computer parts cheap

the ssd benchtest was on intel driver as i posted just above
this image shows a better improvement with microsoft driver
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You want to update the cystaldiskmark to 6.0.2 as i was getting better reading than the 5.2.2 you got in sata 2

I'll give it a go, have't updted that program in years. hahaha

 

[Edwired]

Just after buying shadow of the tomb raider the path home to test it on my custom pc to see if it runs and how it performs with the current overclock

 

[MrGRiMv25]

I updated to Crystal Disk Mark 6.0.2 and still getting the same scores, slight bump but not much - also tried updating chipset drivers etc but no joy ion any meaningful increases.

Rather than trying to find an older PCI-E slot based SSD I'm going to buy an X79 board and stick an E5-1660 v2 in it as I can get it for just under £150 with 4x4GB DDR3-1600 (he's also got an E5-2673 v2 I could have instead but it's another £70 on top which I don't really want to pay and the extra 2C/4T's aren't really needed for my uses). That's probably the easiest way I'll get modern levels of storage and memory bandwidth. The board supports NVME boot so I'll grab an M.2 drive as well and sell the WD 240GB SSD.

 

[Edwired]

Sounds like something is limiting the sata port on your board as it strange enough even when i swapped the intel sata driver for microsoft sata driver i saw that intel sata driver was missing a few features which was odd like it missing the write cache options and others where microsoft had everything including the hot plugging options like you mentioned the removable storage as it working fine on mine. Maybe it do with wd green ssd have you tried updating the firmware for that to see if any is available for fixes as i know the crucial mx100 had 3 firmware updates that fixed a few issues i had before. Worth a try

I updated to Crystal Disk Mark 6.0.2 and still getting the same scores, slight bump but not much - also tried updating chipset drivers etc but no joy ion any meaningful increases.

Rather than trying to find an older PCI-E slot based SSD I'm going to buy an X79 board and stick an E5-1660 v2 in it as I can get it for just under £150 with 4x4GB DDR3-1600 (he's also got an E5-2673 v2 I could have instead but it's another £70 on top which I don't really want to pay and the extra 2C/4T's aren't really needed for my uses). That's probably the easiest way I'll get modern levels of storage and memory bandwidth. The board supports NVME boot so I'll grab an M.2 drive as well and sell the WD 240GB SSD.

Try installing wd dashboard software to see any update is available through this link https://support.wdc.com/downloads.aspx?p=279

As i had to install crucial software to find the update and tweaks to maintain performance

 

[Edwired]

This video just mentioned nvme drive on x79 board here he said asus had no nvme on their own x79 board have a look

 

[Grog6]

My sabertooth x79 has an option to "boot from PCI-e".

It's in the 4801 bios from 7/25/2014.

I've seen these mobos on ebay, selling for extremely cheap prices, depending on features.

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I'd say there are probably trays of x79 (and other) chips floating around china, lol.

 

[MrGRiMv25]

Sounds like something is limiting the sata port on your board as it strange enough even when i swapped the intel sata driver for microsoft sata driver i saw that intel sata driver was missing a few features which was odd like it missing the write cache options and others where microsoft had everything including the hot plugging options like you mentioned the removable storage as it working fine on mine. Maybe it do with wd green ssd have you tried updating the firmware for that to see if any is available for fixes as i know the crucial mx100 had 3 firmware updates that fixed a few issues i had before. Worth a try


Try installing wd dashboard software to see any update is available through this link https://support.wdc.com/downloads.aspx?p=279

As i had to install crucial software to find the update and tweaks to maintain performance

Yeah, firmware is up to date, checked for updates a while back but none were available and still aren't. I've recently done some looking around and it seems the WD green SSD's are just bad performers, they're fine for their HDD range of archive storage but their green SSD's shouldn't exist really as I see no need for a low power SSD. I should've bought the blue series SSD as they're reportedly much better.

I don't know how the Chinese mobo brands have managed to get NVME storage working on their X79 boards but I think I read that it was their use of an H61 or something chipset that enables it, I think the license was cheaper or something but it was a while back that I came across it.

 

[Edwired]

Cool while i was busy tweaking my board i decided to mess around with pcie freq as i started from 100 to 103 i did see the ssd get a small boost in performance in read and write as 104 will make the board fall on it face after a reboot. As well tested shadow of the tomb raider with the pcie freq 103 it smoothen the graphs a small bit as the current overclock is at 4.3ghz @ 1.328v ram 1140mhz i didnt bother with prime95 as i only have the noctua nh-c12p se14 heatsink otherwise temps will skyrocket

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Cool while i was busy tweaking my board i decided to mess around with pcie freq as i started from 100 to 103 i did see the ssd get a small boost in performance in read and write as 104 will make the board fall on it face after a reboot. As well tested shadow of the tomb raider with the pcie freq 103 it smoothen the graphs a small bit as the current overclock is at 4.3ghz @ 1.328v ram 1140mhz i didnt bother with prime95 as i only have the noctua nh-c12p se14 heatsink otherwise temps will skyrocket

Be EXTRA careful when you OC PCI-E frequency,usually it's OK when you do not go above 103-105 but everything above that can fried easily some of your's components.....

 

[Edwired]

I know that i had to check it so i stayed at 103 as any higher i get black screen and i had to hard shut down to get it working again

 

[ManGupta]

This video just mentioned nvme drive on x79 board here he said asus had no nvme on their own x79 board have a look

Actually, even where the motherboard have m.2 slot for nvme drive, it is better to run nvme drive in a pcie slot vide pcie adapter.

Because in case of m.2 slot nvme storage uses only one lane whereas vide pcie slot it uses 2 lanes ...... hence scope for more speed.

 

[Edwired]

That depends on the board only way to find out is using aida64 which would reveal the specs on that is my guess

 

[Zyll Goliat]

 

[TheMadDutchDude]

Using a riser through a PCIe slot actually gives you the full four lanes if you get a proper one, FWIW...

 

[mashie]

Using a riser through a PCIe slot actually gives you the full four lanes if you get a proper one, FWIW...

Indeed, that is what I'm doing, just a shame I can't boot from it on my Gigabyte Workstation board. Thankfully it is easily fixed by using an old mSATA SSD for /boot in Linux.

 

[Edwired]

If i had a few bobs in my bank i wouldnt mind testing this whole thing about m.2, msata etc it just fair annoying where one cant boot or not able to boot from the adaptor.

Did see this adapter through another forum it Syba SI-PEX40057 and he was getting close to 500mb in read about 200 in write on asus p5q pro might pick it up some day and compare it

 

[johnspack]

Well, looks like I'll be stuck here for awhile. Just found an e5 1680 v2 for 199us, and pulled the trigger. Still cost me 300 can delivered, but not bad. Can't wait to play with it!

 

[Samiam66]

Hello All

I have just purchased a new motherboard for a build I am doing ...for a system that is hooked up to my home theatre system
Went with a fairly inexpensive mid grade board..on board M 2 , DDR4 and PCIE 4.0 ready

While I was looking i also saw this ..Which intrigued me... lga2011 slot DDR3 compatible and on board M2 slot so it will bootable
option in the bios.. The HP 1589 Boards are all locked down in that respect

Has anyone tried this type of board?
were there options within the bios to overclock a E5-1620 V2 ?
I have a spare case and a 750Watt power supply, so it would be a simple straight forward
build

Thank you everyone
Sam

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Hello All

I have just purchased a new motherboard for a build I am doing ...for a system that is hooked up to my home theatre system
Went with a fairly inexpensive mid grade board..on board M 2 , DDR4 and PCIE 4.0 ready

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While I was looking i also saw this ..Which intrigued me... lga2011 slot DDR3 compatible and on board M2 slot so it will bootable
option in the bios.. The HP 1589 Boards are all locked down in that respect


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Has anyone tried this type of board?
were there options within the bios to overclock a E5-1620 V2 ?
I have a spare case and a 750Watt power supply, so it would be a simple straight forward
build

Thank you everyone
Sam

Well yeah M2 on Chinese X79 should work just fine...However OC with this type of boards its more hit or miss...depends...here few videos that explains more details about it....

 

[Edwired]

Anyone know if 1155 board compatible with xeon cpu as i was thinking of asus p8-z77-v board for a small upgrade but not too sure yet. As i see it can accept Intel Xeon E3-1245 v2 alright

 

[Law-II]

Hi

Anyone know if 1155 board compatible with xeon cpu as i was thinking of asus p8-z77-v board for a small upgrade but not too sure yet. As i see it can accept Intel Xeon E3-1245 v2 alright

Intel Xeon E3-1245 v2 (3.4G,L3:8M,4C,HT,77W) Should be good to go

Source Here

Check CPU World compare here against other cpu's

Note: may be limited by Memory based overclock when using *1600Mhz modules, [*If looking to overclock front side bus; use higher spec modules and run looser memory timings +/- 1]

Pro Tip: Motherboard will require flashing to another version if Intel Xeon E3-1245 v2 is not already supported, *May require previous working CPU on old bios to flash.

atb

Law-II

 

[freeagent]

Is it just me or are these WD Green SSD's just slow as hell? I mean I'm only stuck on SII due to having an X58 board.... makes me wonder if finding a PCI-E SSD with boot support for the spare x8 slots I have to get a better drive system than this. Only problem is I can't find any of the Intel 750 series but they're quite expensive for what they are anyway, and there an't many other PCI-E slot based SSD's doing the rounfds.

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Way back in the day, I bought a first gen revodrive brand new in package from a crackhead on kijiji. That thing hauled ass. Pitiful by todays standards. But, back then when everyone else was using sata2 on x58, pcie was a real treat. I guess it still is..