AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

[B-Real]

For gaming there is little reason to get a 9900k.

I know. Tell it the blue fans too.

 

[bug]

I know. Tell it the blue fans too.

If you're a blue fan, you're not about the number of cores anyway

 

[RealNeil]

I have a 9700K and an 8700K. (both are fine with me)
I plan to get an AMD Ryzen 7-3700X for the crucial third gaming PC.

 

[Turmania]

I think AMD has done a good job. A step on the right direction but to say it is a big jump would be stretching it. Competition is good for us consumers.

 

[bug]

I have a 9700K and an 8700K. (both are fine with me)
I plan to get an AMD Ryzen 7-3700X for the crucial third gaming PC.

That's interesting, because either of the CPUs you have right now are better for gaming than the 3700X. Not by much, but since you said "crucial" I'm thinking every bit counts.

 

[RealNeil]

That's interesting, because either of the CPUs you have right now are better for gaming than the 3700X. Not by much, but since you said "crucial" I'm thinking every bit counts.

Numbers. Once you pass a certain performance delta, you look for price advantages coupled with the desire to keep Intel's competition alive and well.
I have to have three working decent gaming PCs here for when my kids and grandkids are here. Supporting AMD's efforts is a no brainer when they've advanced as much as they have with this release.

 

[kapone32]

Underwhelming. Still can’t catch up with stock intel in gaming. And then add oc capabilities that 8700/9700/9900 have. This won’t send intel into panic and price reductions as we hoped.

Clock speed is not everything. Please watch the Tech deals video on R5 3600x vs 8700K and you may retract that statement.

 

[dir_d]

That was a good video and it proves that anyone that does not already have a motherboard for a 8700k they should move to Ryzen.

 

[HD64G]

For anyone who bought any of the Zen2 CPUs and cannot clock @ their official boost clocks check below (hint: it's caused by a BIOS default setting if the latest chipset driver is installed)

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[RealNeil]

This is why I am waiting to buy into the new ZEN platform. Time will squeeze out any little issues for me first. Then I will jump.

 

[Octopuss]

This is why I am waiting to buy into the new ZEN platform. Time will squeeze out any little issues for me first. Then I will jump.

I'm thinking about waiting for the next stepping. By then even the X570 boards should be somewhat better me thinks.

 

[bug]

This is why I am waiting to buy into the new ZEN platform. Time will squeeze out any little issues for me first. Then I will jump.

Yes, teething problems aren't something Zen2 invented. I would have been bitten by the no-boot on Linux, had I jumped onto this one. I'm going to give this a few more months, see if motherboards come down in price a little.

 

[RealNeil]

Yes, teething problems aren't something Zen2 invented.

I'm thinking about waiting for the next stepping. By then even the X570 boards should be somewhat better me thinks.

The leading edge is sometimes the bleeding edge. Although this sure looks good to me.

 

[mastrdrver]

@W1zzard In the conclusion it says that the 3950x is a 32 core cpu, unless you know something different I think you meant 16 core, right?

 

[W1zzard]

@W1zzard In the conclusion it says that the 3950x is a 32 core cpu, unless you know something different I think you meant 16 core, right?

Whoops Fixed, congrats for being the first to notice this after close to half a million people

 

[markfresh]

Hi, im new to cpu OC only done a bit with GPU, i was just reading on the test with the voltage at 1.4 the result was 4.225.
I just went into ryzen master and selected PBO and got the same result , is this the correct way to do it without having to manual OC?

 

[bug]

Hi, im new to cpu OC only done a bit with GPU, i was just reading on the test with the voltage at 1.4 the result was 4.225.
I just went into ryzen master and selected PBO and got the same result , is this the correct way to do it without having to manual OC?

Don't worry about overclocking these, they overclock themselves excellently. No reviewer was able to get more than 5% or so after overclocking compared to default settings so it's really not worth the hassle.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Sure wish the Ryzen 7 1700, also at 65 watts, would have been included in the comparisons, especially the Energy Usage charts.

 

[W1zzard]

Sure wish the Ryzen 7 1700, also at 65 watts, would have been included in the comparisons, especially the Energy Usage charts.

Don't have the 1700, amd never sampled it

 

[Space Lynx]

In terms of IPC Ryzen 3000 has completely defeated Intel which last happened over ten years ago with Athlon 64. The only thing which makes Intel faster is the frequency deficit of Ryzen CPUs. What a day to be alive!

I'm going to fully agree with W1zard is that the only two serious shortcomings of Ryzen 3000 are the absence of integrated graphics and the price which could have been a tad lower.

Meanwhile, it's finally high time to upgrade our aging Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge rigs. The first gen Ryzen wasn't really that much faster and now the performance increases are very palpable.

Bravo, AMD!

I'm lifting the CPU cooler of the 3700x in my hand right now, this is no small heatsink my friends, it is very heavy, lots of copper, RGB fan, and a switch to set it manually to high or low with no software. that alone is worth $30. so I don't think the price should be any lower really. $330 is pretty fair considering all things.

 

[Camper7]

"Still not as fast as Intel in gaming"

This is because most of the developers use Intel platforms for programming, not the CPU itself.
Other developers as Massive Entertainment in Sweden use AMD-platforms and their games is optimized for AMD-cpu's. So this line as conclusion is just wasted and wrong way to see things.

 

[Space Lynx]

"Still not as fast as Intel in gaming"

This is because most of the developers use Intel platforms for programming, not the CPU itself.
Other developers as Massive Entertainment in Sweden use AMD-platforms and their games is optimized for AMD-cpu's. So this line as conclusion is just wasted and wrong way to see things.

actually with latest bios, drivers, firmware, etc - new benches are showing considerable gains against intel even at 1080p. ryzen 4000 series is going to decimate intel.

 

[kapone32]

actually with latest bios, drivers, firmware, etc - new benches are showing considerable gains against intel even at 1080p. ryzen 4000 series is going to decimate intel.

I was watching a video done by Hardware Unboxed and they used a 3800x with different RAM and DDR 4000 gave the CPU just as much FPS as the 9900K OC to 5 GHZ using the same kits in most games.

 

[Space Lynx]

I was watching a video done by Hardware Unboxed and they used a 3800x with different RAM and DDR 4000 gave the CPU just as much FPS as the 9900K OC to 5 GHZ using the same kits in most games.

that's my point yes. I can confirm as well, as I have a ryzen 3600 with 1:1 if ram at 3800 cas 16. it's a beast

 

[Magistar]

@W1zzard So far this is the only review I have found where the 3700X is beating the 9700K/9900K in a few games. Now for Rage 2 and Wolfenstein II I simply could not find another review. But rockpaperscissor tested Shadow of the tombraider too and they showed results that make more sense.

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Did you check if something fishy was happening during your testing? I can't really think of a reason why 8c/16t 4.4 Ghz would beat the same core/thread count running at higher clocks with similar IPC.