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Oh That was someone elses response (jism) not mine ...but im looking into it

Oh sorry doh lol. I was wondering that since like there's no degradation data I've seen since chips are new.

Oh also, that user jism is regurgitating Intel BS attacking AMD. See below... How would Intel even have any proof/info since Ryzen 3 is like months old lol.

 
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Oh sorry doh lol. I was wondering that since like there's no degradation data I've seen since chips are new.

Oh also, that user jism is regurgitating Intel BS attacking AMD. See below... How would Intel even have any proof/info since Ryzen 3 is like months old lol.

Chips don't degrade any faster. They last for a very long time. Of course if you increase the CPU voltage well above its intended recommendation, regardless of CPU maker there's a chance the chip can be damaged.

But we are talking about major voltage increases. The processor should simply shutdown to prevent damage anyways.

Ignore any Intel claim about AMD, they are pissed off that AMD released a very competitive CPU line. Because Intel hates competition. Lol
 

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Ryzen 3 will degrade based on amperage, not voltage

So the high voltage is there at low load, and the amperage stays low - as the load increases, the voltage (and therefore amperage) drops down. That was straight from one of the AMD engineers on reddit/twitter etc.
 
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I appreciate everyone's input on this ...Since I didn't OC any of the components. I didn't scrutinize the Cpuz numbers
My car got rear ended and ive been dealing with that issue Insurance, body shops, rental car ...have a open case
with ASrock on this so we will see what comes of it ..

The machine itself has been problem free since I assembled it..
Did have a bad pump on H100i but corsair took care of that issue.

thanks everyone
 

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AGESA 1.0.0.4
A slight improvement in memory read performance in AIDA.
Boost behaviour seems to have changed a bit as well, with at least some single threaded applications seemingly boosting to peak boost a lot more frequently than previous AGESA releases, at least from what I can tell with some quick testing.

135050
 
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i wanna see a list of the 100 improvements 1.0.0.4 was meant to heave
 
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i wanna see a list of the 100 improvements 1.0.0.4 was meant to heave
There was this on the front page yesterday.


 

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I can confirm boot times are faster too, although I'm not quite seeing the numbers from MSI, my boot should be 4-5 seconds faster overall.
 

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my boards still on ABBA, boo
 
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AGESA 1.0.0.4 so far is better then 1.0.0.3 ABBA for me

4.400x6, 4.375x2
25mhz improvement on the lower two cores. It also running a lot cooler by at least a few Cs during idle (1.0.0.3 ABBA = 42/43c) 32/35c now. Might be using low states better now.

They are some new additions that showed up in the BIOS/UEFI under overclocking and CPU features but haven't messed with them yet.

Unfortunate boot times are x2 longer then 1.0.0.3 ABBA for me from 18/19s to 40+secs now.
 
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i wanna see a list of the 100 improvements 1.0.0.4 was meant to heave
Me thinks that the 100s of improvements were referred to those included partially in the next AGESAs as a sum of them, not only in the one you name in your post.
 
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One of the new options/features that i got with 1.0.0.4 patch B is called "Base Clock Boost"

Increases frequency of base clock but it also increases Bus clock and mem clock

Base Clock Boost = OFF / AUTO
4.400x6, 4.375x2
Max boost = 4.400x3
Bus Clock = 100
Mem Clock = 1800

Base Clock Boost = ON / Mode 1
4.436x7, 4.410x1
Max boost = 4.436x3
Bus Clock = 100
Mem Clock = 1814

Base Clock Boost = ON / Mode 2
4.444x6, 4.418x2
Max boost = 4.444x3
Bus Clock = 101
Mem Clock = 1818

 
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Weird that you had higher boot times, thats meant to be something they fixed

curious to see how it affects me on 2700x, as ABBA did improve things for me
 
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Weird that you had higher boot times, thats meant to be something they fixed

curious to see how it affects me on 2700x, as ABBA did improve things for me

Figured it out.

Apparently 1.0.0.4 patch B doesn't get along with my old TV/RC card for WMC. Took it out and it boots in 14 to 15 secs.
 
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Do these updates benefit my 1700x at all
 
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yeah, with rare exceptions its worth updating regardless of CPU gen

I might do it then, I'm on an x370 board and I heard 3rd gen updates crippled functionality so I'm still running the 2018 bios
 

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I might do it then, I'm on an x370 board and I heard 3rd gen updates crippled functionality so I'm still running the 2018 bios

Some boards had issues, but thats not the agesas problem - thats shitty mobo makers
 
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Anyone using the stock cooler on the new 1.0.0.4? How are acoustics and the fan oscillations?
 
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MSI has a beta BIOS update posted for the B450 Tomahawk.

- Update AMD ComboPI1.0.0.4 Patch B (SMU v46.54)

A lot of new options added, now have independent CCX clock speed adjustment.
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Fiiiinally got my 3900X installed today. It's been sitting and waiting patiently all week!

No fanfare setting things up. All I've done was 'max' my PBO settings and set RAM up to 3600/CL16/1800mhz FCLK. Basically, I set the PBO limits to 'motherboard' and gave it that +200mhz boost. RAM OC as dictated by the Ryzen timing calc. Of course I've also got the latest chipset drivers and BIOS (1.0.0.3 ABBA.) Running "AMD Ryzen High Performance" power plan... might play with 1usmus's custom plan at some point.

But... yeah. So pretty much standard. Good to see D.O.C.P. works on this board with Zen 2. Never got the profile for these DIMMs to boot with Zen or Zen+. Now it'll do it... 3600/CL18 but it does it! And I think for most people that would be fine. I never tested it outside of booting it up, though.

Specs/userbenchmark:

UserBenchmarks: Game 100%, Desk 144%, Work 137%
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X - 99.2%
GPU: Nvidia RTX 2060 - 92.3%
SSD: Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 500GB - 293.2%
SSD: Samsung 860 Evo 250GB - 124.9%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB - 66.4%
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 4TB (2017) - 95.1%
RAM: G.SKILL F4 DDR4 3600 C17 2x8GB - 127.2%
MBD: Asus ROG STRIX X370-F GAMING

As far as cooling goes, it's all in a NZXT H710 w/ stock fans... with a Dark Rock 4 cooling the CPU.

CB Score/Goodies
136079


The voltage definitely gets up there! But the scores look great, so if that's what it wants... can't argue. Temperatures don't seem that bad. I need to fix my fan curves. One really obnoxious thing about this mobo is that fan curves actually follow the mobo CPU reading, which is socket temp, instead of Tctl/Tdie. You have to set them more aggressively just to get normal reactions. I might get better results after tweaking them, cuz as it is now the fans could be thinking CPU temp is ~60C when it's more like 85C! You can see in the screenshots how low my max fan speeds are... they're lagging behind big time!

cb running.jpgcb running sc.jpg

These two thumbnails are from when the tests were running. On the multi-threaded one, pretty high max temps @ ~85C. But voltages and boost seem right... always a little over 4ghz on all cores. SC looks good too. ~60C max with two cores boosting up to ~4.5ghz.

So from what I can see, it's pretty much boosting unrestrained. Temperatures stay below throttling, while clocks and voltage go right up to the limit. The idles really are on the high side at 40C-50C but when it gets to work it really goes and the temperatures are good for under-load. I'm assuming without BIOS updates later, the behavior it has now will be it... which is fine by me! Happy to see it readily boosting as high as it can go and performing how it's supposed to. Be interested to see how it does in games.

Now that I know I can get it right up to 3600 CL16 easily, I may go get another pair of the G.Skill RAM I bought for this rig to bring it up to 32GB. It's spec'd at 3600/17-18-18-38 but it actually runs 16-16-16-32 just fine. It's B-die, just not the BESSST B-die.

I can't believe everything works like it's supposed to. I'm kinda sad... there's nothing for me to do! I mean, I can push for more RAM speed... maybe see if I can get a 1900mhz FCLK for 3800mhz on my RAM. Bleh. Mostly I'll be playing with cooling. I've got 3 Corsair ML140's I can swap in for the front intake... and the curves all need fixing anyway. I'm sure I can bring those temps down by a decent amount.

I think this is the least tweaking I've ever felt was needed for a personal rig. On one hand, that's kinda sad, as I like getting into that. With the way these things are set up, there's just nothing you need to squeeze out, which isn't always so bad... it's kinda nice to not have to jump through hoops to get my new, expensive, bad-ass CPU to be as bad-ass as it can be.

Can't wait to really get going with this rig now! It's on a steady path to badassification. Next up is a full custom loop... and then maybe I'll play around with an all-core OC on this beast. Quite pleased with it so far. For all the crap people give ASUS about being overpriced and having bugs, I'll swear by this Strix X370-F. This thing has run every generation of Ryzen, from 1300X to 3900X without a hitch. The BIOS is full-featured and easy to use. All of the settings work and it doesn't have any funky boosting behavior (voltage is high at points but I don't think that can be helped.) The VRM's are good enough to drive any consumer Ryzen chip out there. Doesn't feel like I've lost out on anything not going over to an X570... or even an X470. Just pcie 4.0 in the former case.
 
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Processor 3900X
Motherboard ASRock Taichi X570
Cooling Water
Memory 32GB GSkill CL16 3600mhz
Video Card(s) Vega 56
Storage 2 x AData XPG 8200 Pro 1TB
Display(s) 3440 x 1440
Case Thermaltake Tower 900
Power Supply Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum
So, I have been extra busy and not done much tweaking with my system yet but I noticed with Destiny 2 that only about 6 cores were hitting 4.2 and the other 6 cores were between 3.6 and 3.8. I was sort of expecting the boost to be closer to 4.5 on 6 cores. Granted, I still don't have pbo turned back on as I was getting better peak boost numbers with it off.

Edit: Mem speeds up to 3800:1900 with my CJR. Timings are pretty loose right now 16-20-20-20-39 so I'll tighten them up a little later.
 
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