BEST RAM FOR ASUS HERO X570

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

I can tell you from experience that the TridentZ RGB kits work Very well BUT if you use Asus Aura to change the RGB from the stock Rainbow effect to a solid color or any of the other effects offered in Asus Aura it can corrupt the SPD settings on the RAM and cause it to fail.

Thank you for the warning. Yes, this is what I mean about RGB. Even the most basic RGB stuff can get buggy. I paid way too much for the Corsair Commander (for example) and it cost me nothing but grief. All I wanted from it was solid blue lighting on both RAM fans. What a waste of money. But what is one paying for exactly when one pays for RGB? Certainly not performance, reliability, or stability. One is just paying for eye candy and we all know how candy rots. RGB is not the reason I purchased the CROSSHAIR HERO VIII. Alas, it's pretty tough to find a board with all those features and special exclusions, but to each their own. If someone wants their PC to second as a lazer light show that's their own business. Myself, I see no point to the stuff unless it's there for some practical reason. Alas, even then LEDs will fail.

I have an I-STAR USA RAID CAGE that I absolutely love. Solid metal, durable construction. Reliable circuitry except.. Just recently one of the blue LEDs on one of the trays failed. So now I don't get the violet colour I have learned to love over time when data is being written. Instead I get this glaring red every time a write cycle starts because the blue power indicator light isn't on. What makes things even more annoying is sometimes the blue light returns and other times it's just gone. I've tried all sorts of approaches. I'm guessing there's no fix for it other than to re-flow the solder to the LED or replace the unit. Alas, they are old stock and I-STAR doesn't make them anymore. Fortunately I found a supplier on EBAY who had a couple still in the shrink wrap. I paid triple the price for them but methinks I'm set for life now. Gonna put one in my "gaming" build just because.

I completely disagree with this statement.
I help out on a few pretty well known tech forums and I have seen way too many posts from users that have issues with Corsair Vengeance LPX and Corsair Vengeance LPX RGB kits not running at their rated speeds on AMD (2000 and 300 series) based systems.
For whatever reason, be it MB manufacturer BIOS issues or badly binned IC's from Corsair or whatever, they just are not as compatible with Ryzen 2000 and 3000 based systems as G.Skill, Patriot, or even Kingston HyperX kits are. If I was building an Intel based system I would have no problem recommending Corsair RAM BUT for an AMD Ryzen rig Corsair would be my very last choice for RAM.

I'm not sure what statement you disagree with. That Corsair makes good RAM? They do. Evidently they also make terrible RAM. Both statements can be true, much like NAND and NOR, but you are as much entitled to your disagreement as I am entitled to my opinion. It is my opinion, based on personal experience, that Corsair makes good RAM. Evidently they also make terrible RAM. Here's one you might find interesting: I've never had to return any RAM ever to any company in 30 years of using PCs. That doesn't mean I haven't had to deal with defective RAM. I just chucked it in the garbage. If it is old, used, or damaged and I'm not the original owner it simply gets chucked. The closest I ever came to returning any RAM was with PATRIOT and they were about to replace it without a hiccough when I discovered that something else was actually generating the error. That company really impressed me. I told them it was used RAM that I purchased second hand but they didn't care. They were prepared to stand behind their product. To me, that speaks volumes. That is the main reason I went up to bat for them yesterday with ASUS. There's no good reason in my mind that the Patriot RAM (shared here) should not have been on the QVL list when ASUS is offering other RAM with pretty much the same specs. ASUS says they'll be getting back to me. Anyway, there it is.

 

[NoJuan999]

Thank you for the warning. Yes, this is what I mean about RGB. Even the most basic RGB stuff can get buggy. I paid way too much for the Corsair Commander (for example) and it cost me nothing but grief. All I wanted from it was solid blue lighting on both RAM fans. What a waste of money. But what is one paying for exactly when one pays for RGB? Certainly not performance, reliability, or stability. One is just paying for eye candy and we all know how candy rots. RGB is not the reason I purchased the CROSSHAIR HERO VIII. Alas, it's pretty tough to find a board with all those features and special exclusions, but to each their own. If someone wants their PC to second as a lazer light show that's their own business. Myself, I see no point to the stuff unless it's there for some practical reason. Alas, even then LEDs will fail.

I have an I-STAR USA RAID CAGE that I absolutely love. Solid metal, durable construction. Reliable circuitry except.. Just recently one of the blue LEDs on one of the trays failed. So now I don't get the violet colour I have learned to love over time when data is being written. Instead I get this glaring red every time a write cycle starts because the blue power indicator light isn't on. What makes things even more annoying is sometimes the blue light returns and other times it's just gone. I've tried all sorts of approaches. I'm guessing there's no fix for it other than to re-flow the solder to the LED or replace the unit. Alas, they are old stock and I-STAR doesn't make them anymore. Fortunately I found a supplier on EBAY who had a couple still in the shrink wrap. I paid triple the price for them but methinks I'm set for life now. Gonna put one in my "gaming" build just because.




I'm not sure what statement you disagree with. That Corsair makes good RAM? They do. Evidently they also make terrible RAM. Both statements can be true, much like NAND and NOR, but you are as much entitled to your disagreement as I am entitled to my opinion. It is my opinion, based on personal experience, that Corsair makes good RAM. Evidently they also make terrible RAM. Here's one you might find interesting: I've never had to return any RAM ever to any company in 30 years of using PCs. That doesn't mean I haven't had to deal with defective RAM. I just chucked it in the garbage. If it is old, used, or damaged and I'm not the original owner it simply gets chucked. The closest I ever came to returning any RAM was with PATRIOT and they were about to replace it without a hiccough when I discovered that something else was actually generating the error. That company really impressed me. I told them it was used RAM that I purchased second hand but they didn't care. They were prepared to stand behind their product. To me, that speaks volumes. That is the main reason I went up to bat for them yesterday with ASUS. There's no good reason in my mind that the Patriot RAM (shared here) should not have been on the QVL list when ASUS is offering other RAM with pretty much the same specs. ASUS says they'll be getting back to me. Anyway, there it is.

I was just disagreeing with the fact that Corsair makes good RAM for AMD 2000 or 3000 based systems.
I have seen hundreds of posts on 2 other tech forums that I help out on from users that bought Corsair Vengeance LPX and Corsair Vengeance LPX RGB RAM kits that just would Not run at their rated speeds.
But as you know this is simply My opinion and I was not saying that you are not entitled to your opinion, because I absolutely believe everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I was simply stating based on my experience I disagree, I just do not have any confidence in Corsair RAM working properly in AMD Ryzen based PCs.

If that post sounded overly aggressive or offensive, please know that was not my intention.
I was simply trying to relay my opinion (based on first hand and second hand experience) regarding Corsair RAM and AMD Ryzen PCs.
I hope you can see from my posts here that my intentions are just meant to help you make an informed decision.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Friend, I am in nowise offended. I think you're doing great work here helping others and I do much the same in other forums. In fact, I manage a few myself and some have thousands of members. I truly appreciate what you do. I could just as easily say, "No doubt about it. Corsair makes crappy RAM" and still not be wrong and still not be contradicting myself because it is quite evident that they do both. To be honest, I have already stated my position with Corsair throughout this thread. I don't see them beating a path to my door with a 200 dollar rebate cheque so I don't expect Corsair will be seeing much money from me any time soon. I'll even tell a client if they want me to put Corsair in their PC they will have to buy the stuff themselves and I will not stand behind the product. That's how strongly I feel about Corsair. I know that sounds hypocritical since I'm using Corsair RAM in my work station and running a Corsair PSU but the devil is in the details. Corsair did not stand behind their product. For me, all it takes is once. They've discontinued the Corsair Commander since my little incident but they never offered me remedy. That often happens with companies that have grown large. They all too often forget about their social responsibility to their clients. Methinks that's what Intel did too.

Nojuan, you have been a tremendous help to me in making my decision and I would not wish to give you the wrong impression. I concur with your statement about Corsair RAM and again, I appreciate the warning. Thanks.

Well, ASUS got back to me and this is what they sent me: A motherboard feedback form. I scanned w my Kaspersky so the file should be good. Seems they want me to test the RAM for them first before they put it on their QVL. I'd be more than happy to do it if they would be so kind as to provide the RAM at their expense. I don't think that's gonna happen. Bah! The bane of RGB. To be perfectly honest, this is the RAM that really caught my eye due to the low latency/high frequency B-die architecture >>> https://www.amazon.ca/Patriot-Viper...960JBVGM963PBY&qid=1574881320#customerReviews BUT it is not on the QVL and tech support again gave me their admonition that they can't stand behind it if it isn't on the QVL. Last thing I want to do is give ASUS a flimsy excuse for rejecting a (heaven forbid) dreaded RMA. I'm a very careful builder and very gentle with components. I take my time. I'm old, methodical, and thorough. Sometimes I even don a wrist strap. lol BUT.. Stuff happens. The box my main board came in yesterday was pretty beat up looking and soggy. I think it got dropped in the snow. Yup. Stuff happens. Anyway, if any of you out there who already have PATRIOT RAM would care to give ASUS some feedback. The form is here. Black Friday in two more days. *cheers*

 

[A Computer Guy]

Friend, I am in nowise offended. I think you're doing great work here helping others and I do much the same in other forums. In fact, I manage a few myself and some have thousands of members. I truly appreciate what you do. I could just as easily say, "No doubt about it. Corsair makes crappy RAM" and still not be wrong and still not be contradicting myself because it is quite evident that they do both. To be honest, I have already stated my position with Corsair throughout this thread. I don't see them beating a path to my door with a 200 dollar rebate cheque so I don't expect Corsair will be seeing much money from me any time soon. I'll even tell a client if they want me to put Corsair in their PC they will have to buy the stuff themselves and I will not stand behind the product. That's how strongly I feel about Corsair. I know that sounds hypocritical since I'm using Corsair RAM in my work station and running a Corsair PSU but the devil is in the details. Corsair did not stand behind their product. For me, all it takes is once. They've discontinued the Corsair Commander since my little incident but they never offered me remedy. That often happens with companies that have grown large. They all too often forget about their social responsibility to their clients. Methinks that's what Intel did too.

Nojuan, you have been a tremendous help to me in making my decision and I would not wish to give you the wrong impression. I concur with your statement about Corsair RAM and again, I appreciate the warning. Thanks.

Well, ASUS got back to me and this is what they sent me: A motherboard feedback form. I scanned w my Kaspersky so the file should be good. Seems they want me to test the RAM for them first before they put it on their QVL. I'd be more than happy to do it if they would be so kind as to provide the RAM at their expense. I don't think that's gonna happen. Bah! The bane of RGB. To be perfectly honest, this is the RAM that really caught my eye due to the low latency/high frequency B-die architecture >>> https://www.amazon.ca/Patriot-Viper...960JBVGM963PBY&qid=1574881320#customerReviews BUT it is not on the QVL and tech support again gave me their admonition that they can't stand behind it if it isn't on the QVL. Last thing I want to do is give ASUS a flimsy excuse for rejecting a (heaven forbid) dreaded RMA. I'm a very careful builder and very gentle with components. I take my time. I'm old, methodical, and thorough. Sometimes I even don a wrist strap. lol BUT.. Stuff happens. The box my main board came in yesterday was pretty beat up looking and soggy. I think it got dropped in the snow. Yup. Stuff happens. Anyway, if any of you out there who already have PATRIOT RAM would care to give ASUS some feedback. The form is here. Black Friday in two more days. *cheers*

However unlikely it would be, it would be quite awesome if they did provide that ram for you even if it was a temporary, or even option for a discounted purchase, provided it worked. There seems to be a lot of gskill on sale today at newegg. 32GB DDR4-3600 for under $170 seems like a great deal for most.

I was looking at the QVL for Crosshair VIII Series and they don't specify QVL by CPU generation. If your worried about RMA do you need to ask them if that will be a factor?
Also a question, why would they reject RMA based on ram you happened to use anyway?

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

I was looking at the QVL for Crosshair VIII Series and they don't specify QVL by CPU generation. If your worried about RMA do you need to ask them if that will be a factor?
Also a question, why would they reject RMA based on ram you happened to use anyway?

That is a good question. It would not be as though it were the first time I've received disinformation first hand from ASUS tech support. I almost opted out of buying the X570 HERO when they told me I would void the warranty if I removed the chip set fan as it was embedded in the system board. The chip set fan is not embedded in the system board. It can be removed quite easily. So in the event of fan failure it can be replaced without having to RMA the entire board.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

You should check and make sure your's even came with the Fan shroud.... Seems a lot of people not long ago were getting them with it missing.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

I'm thinking of giving ASUS a call. The box didn't come sealed and that concerns me. This was not an open box purchase.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

As far as I know they don't seal the boxes anymore... not sure why. My Code was a pre order and was not sealed as well.

 

[sneekypeet]

Mine came straight from ASUS and was not sealed. I say as long as all the stuff is there, cover plastic is in place, and no obvious signs of foul play, use it.

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

As far as I know they don't seal the boxes anymore... not sure why.

That must be a new thing. Either that or only older stock comes sealed? I'm not much of an early adopter and I don't really advise that anyone should be. This is as close to it as I've been in some time and I'm only doing it because this build is for me, myself, and I.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

@erek Has the same board maybe he'll chime in.

 

[erek]

mine came without seal, and was missing the chipset fan grill, but it seems fine, a lot of people are receiving them without this grill.

i'm usisng G.Skill Trident Neo Z DDR4-3600 16-19-19-39 Ram

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Thanks Erek. Praise the Lord!

Would that happen to be this stuff right here?

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Series 16GB SDRAM DDR4 3600 Desktop Memory - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

 

[erek]

Thanks Erek. Praise the Lord!

Would that happen to be this stuff right here?

G.SKILL Trident Z Neo Series 16GB SDRAM DDR4 3600 Desktop Memory - Newegg.com

Buy G.SKILL Trident Z Neo (For AMD Ryzen) Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin RGB DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!

www.newegg.ca

i went with the 2x16 personally

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

How are those latencies working for you?

 

[erek]

How are those latencies working for you?

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X @ 4066.76 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[tnz7na] Validated Dump by erek (2019-11-28 04:54:16) - MB: Asus ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (WI-FI) - RAM: 32768 MB

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[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Excuse me while I finish picking my jaw up off the floor.

 

[erek]

@WHOFOUNDFUNGUS

 

[A Computer Guy]

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X @ 4066.76 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[tnz7na] Validated Dump by erek (2019-11-28 04:54:16) - MB: Asus ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (WI-FI) - RAM: 32768 MB

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The verge has left the chat.

 

[erek]

The verge has left the chat.

what do you mean?

 

[A Computer Guy]

what do you mean?

(humor) Have you seen the verge build video?

 

[erek]

(humor) Have you seen the verge build video?

not yet, can you link it

 

[A Computer Guy]

Here is how I found it ... very funny. (not sure where the original video is at the moment)

(The person in the video was bragging about having a hexacore cpu which was widely available from a variety of retailers. Just now you casually posted a screen shot of a results from a CPU you have that can hardly be found anywhere because of high demand.)

 

[WHOFOUNDFUNGUS]

Oh this. ha ha ha This one deserves the all-time PC Builder Facepalm award.

 

[erek]

Here is how I found it ... very funny. (not sure where the original video is at the moment)

(The person in the video was bragging about having a hexacore cpu which was widely available from a variety of retailers. Just now you casually posted a screen shot of a results from a CPU you have that can hardly be found anywhere because of high demand.)

plus my cable management is horrible