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I'm still on F10a and I finally got around to do a bit of OCing. This CPU is hard to keep cool I must say. The increase from all core around 4050 MHz to 4300 MHz did cost 30 W and the temperature went up from 68 to 78 C. No benching yet, it is doing WCG.
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I'm still on F10a and I finally got around to do a bit of OCing. This CPU is hard to keep cool I must say. The increase from all core around 4050 MHz to 4300 MHz did cost 30 W and the temperature went up from 68 to 78 C. No benching yet, it is doing WCG.View attachment 137865
You should really move to F10, it's a huge improvement over F10a.
 
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Hi everyone! I've been following this thread for a while and I just joined TPU.

I hope I'm not speaking out of turn but I was wonder if there is any new info on the posting problem? Is it bad batches of hardware, a BIOS issue, RAM timings and XMP profiles not working properly, a design flaw in some boards or the X570 chipset?

I've been doing research and planning a new build for about 9 months and this posting issue was a real buzz kill. This is going to be my first complete build and I'm planning to use a Gygabyte X570 AORUS XTREME and Ryzen 3700X. Last year I came into a little money and spent about $1100 building my dream case that I wanted for about a decade so I decided to go with the most extreme motherboard for my extreme case. There are several practical reasons I plan to use the AORUS XTREME but the biggest reason is that it's the only board that I completely love how it looks so I don't have a plan B or a second choice.

Thanks!!

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Hi everyone! I've been following this thread for a while and I just joined TPU.

I hope I'm not speaking out of turn but I was wonder if there is any new info on the posting problem? Is it bad batches of hardware, a BIOS issue, RAM timings and XMP profiles not working properly, a design flaw in some boards or the X570 chipset?

I've been doing research and planning a new build for about 9 months and this posting issue was a real buzz kill. This is going to be my first complete build and I'm planning to use a Gygabyte X570 AORUS XTREME and Ryzen 3700X. Last year I came into a little money and spent about $1100 building my dream case that I wanted for about a decade so I decided to go with the most extreme motherboard for my extreme case. There are several practical reasons I plan to use the AORUS XTREME but the biggest reason is that it's the only board that I completely love how it looks so I don't have a plan B or a second choice.

Thanks!!

:)
Not sure, but it seems more recent AGESA/UEFI's have at least solved it for some people.
This was not an exclusive issue to Gigabyte though, as some MSI boards had the same problems.

I have not seen any recent posts anywhere with people having this issue.
 
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Yes I've seen that in this thread and other forums that it's affecting MSI also.

Thanks for the info! I'm not really into flashing my BIOS a lot so I'm just not sure when I should order my hardware? I could wait a while longer but I don't know if there will ever be anything that definitively states the problem is fixed?

Thanks again for the fast reply!!
 
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Other than being a super odd paring a master and 3900x makes more sense (3950X doesn't even make the master break a sweat in the vrm department) I doubt you'll have issues with the extreme if you're super worried grab some ram that is on the QVL (last I checked the master had a better qvl) and you should be golden.

seems they updated the qvl since launch so yeah just grab somthing on the list it's pretty large anyway 3600 CL16 ideally.
 

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Yes I've seen that in this thread and other forums that it's affecting MSI also.

Thanks for the info! I'm not really into flashing my BIOS a lot so I'm just not sure when I should order my hardware? I could wait a while longer but I don't know if there will ever be anything that definitively states that the problem is fixed?

Thanks again for the fast reply!!
The current F10 release for all Gigabyte X570 boards is using the latest AGESA 1.0.0.4 B and it has been very stable so far and it's a "final" release, so it would be the one to use if you want a stable, up to date UEFI that comes with all the fixes and feature updates.
 
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Other than being a super odd paring a master and 3900x makes more sense (3950X doesn't even make the master break a sweat in the vrm department) I doubt you'll have issues with the extreme if you're super worried grab some ram that is on the QVL (last I checked the master had a better qvl) and you should be golden.

seems they updated the qvl since launch so yeah just grab somthing on the list it's pretty large anyway 3600 CL16 ideally.

Thanks!!

I looked at the Master but I don't like the fan or how the board looks and a 3700X is more than I need for what I do and I like the power draw.

Right now I'm looking at G.Skill and either the Royal or Neo depending on the look I want. I'm looking at 16GB-32GB depending on the price and probably 16CL 3600.

The current F10 release for all Gigabyte X570 boards is using the latest AGESA 1.0.0.4 B and it has been very stable so far and it's a "final" release, so it would be the one to use if you want a stable, up to date UEFI that comes with all the fixes and feature updates.

Thanks!!

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I looked at the Master but I don't like the fan or how the board looks and a 3700X is more than I need for what I do and I like the power draw.
Well... I cant say for the looks, thats your call, but about the fan "thing" I can say that alot negative commends had been said, mostly from users that dont have X570 board...
Its not much of an issue. I never use the chipset fan but I have a 120mm case fan close to it... If you ensure low ambient and high case air flow the PCH fan is useless. Plus Gigabyte (and I think ASUS) added a BIOS/UEFI setting to stop the fan. Starts over 60C and mine never does (<55C summer).
 
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Well... I cant say for the looks, thats your call, but about the fan "thing" I can say that alot negative commends had been said, mostly from users that dont have X570 board...
Its not much of an issue. I never use the chipset fan but I have a 120mm case fan close to it... If you ensure low ambient and high case air flow the PCH fan is useless. Plus Gigabyte (and I think ASUS) added a BIOS/UEFI setting to stop the fan. Starts over 60C and mine never does (<55C summer).

I don't blame him really the extreme is the best looking x570 board in my opinion by a pretty large margin... So if paying double for looks with zero performance gain is worth it to him more power to him. At least its actually technically better unlike going from the Hero to the Formula which is basically the same board with a pointless vrm waterblock.
 
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Well... I cant say for the looks, thats your call, but about the fan "thing" I can say that alot negative commends had been said, mostly from users that dont have X570 board...
Its not much of an issue. I never use the chipset fan but I have a 120mm case fan close to it... If you ensure low ambient and high case air flow the PCH fan is useless. Plus Gigabyte (and I think ASUS) added a BIOS/UEFI setting to stop the fan. Starts over 60C and mine never does (<55C summer).

I have to admit my main factor in choosing a motherboard was the aesthetics. I spent a lot of time on my case, there isn't one single standard computer screw, I through bolted all my fans with neoprene gaskets and washers and even made my own aluminum wire boxes to hide all the wires from my front and rear fans. I've read a lot about X570 motherboards and followed all the leaks and trade shows before the launch and there are a lot of mixed opinions about the chipset fans. For me I just don't like them but you are right that it would probably never even run on my system because I'm not a gamer and I never stress my system much. The case I built has 12 Arctic P12 120mm fans that I run at 1200rpm (about 3/4 speed) on two Lamptron FC5 V3 fan controllers, it moves about 506cfm and I measured it at 28.2dB so air flow isn't a problem. After I build my new system in the case I plan to make custom sleeved PSU cables with sleeve and wire from mod-one for my Seasonic Prime Titanium 650w so looks are very important to me.
I don't blame him really the extreme is the best looking x570 board in my opinion by a pretty large margin... So if paying double for looks with zero performance gain is worth it to him more power to him. At least its actually technically better unlike going from the Hero to the Formula which is basically the same board with a pointless vrm waterblock.

I only need a MB, CPU, RAM, M.2 and GPU and I budgeted $1,500-$1,600. Since I'm not a gamer I was planning on a small GPU, I was looking at a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4G since it doesn't require extra power and is small and won't block a lot of the motherboard. I run my system 24/7/365 so power draw in of some importance to me, my last up-time on Windows 7 was 201 days. I think the 15-16 hundred might have been before I needed a GPU and decided I wanted better RAM so I might have to increase my budget a little.

I read about and look at the ASUS boards and it's pretty ridiculous in my opinion to charge that much more for basically a useless waterblock.

Here's a picture of my case with it's 76" of remote controlled RGB lighting.

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I have to admit my main factor in choosing a motherboard was the aesthetics. I spent a lot of time on my case, there isn't one single standard computer screw, I through bolted all my fans with neoprene gaskets and washers and even made my own aluminum wire boxes to hide all the wires from my front and rear fans. I've read a lot about X570 motherboards and followed all the leaks and trade shows before the launch and there are a lot of mixed opinions about the chipset fans. For me I just don't like them but you are right that it would probably never even run on my system because I'm not a gamer and I never stress my system much. The case I built has 12 Arctic P12 120mm fans that I run at 1200rpm (about 3/4 speed) on two Lamptron FC5 V3 fan controllers, it moves about 506cfm and I measured it at 28.2dB so air flow isn't a problem. After I build my new system in the case I plan to make custom sleeved PSU cables with sleeve and wire from mod-one for my Seasonic Prime Titanium 650w so looks are very important to me.


I only need a MB, CPU, RAM, M.2 and GPU and I budgeted $1,500-$1,600. Since I'm not a gamer I was planning on a small GPU, I was looking at a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4G since it doesn't require extra power and is small and won't block a lot of the motherboard. I run my system 24/7/365 so power draw in of some importance to me, my last up-time on Windows 7 was 201 days. I think the 15-16 hundred might have been before I needed a GPU and decided I wanted better RAM so I might have to increase my budget a little.

I read about and look at the ASUS boards and it's pretty ridiculous in my opinion to charge that much more for basically a useless waterblock.

Here's a picture of my case with it's 76" of remote controlled RGB lighting.

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I'm guessing you know the 1650 is a pretty terrible value and the majority of decent models require a 6 pin anyway.... I would look at the super variant and just deal with the 6 pin as even though it's still super budget it's actually decent for it's price.
 
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I'm guessing you know the 1650 is a pretty terrible value and the majority of decent models require a 6 pin anyway.... I would look at the super variant and just deal with the 6 pin as even though it's still super budget it's actually decent for it's price.

Yeah I know. I might look at other GPUs, I was mainly looking at the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4G because of all the "cheap" cards I looked at I liked how it looked the best and since it's a Gigabyte it matches the theme of the AORUS XTREME almost perfectly. I guess the extra power wouldn't be a problem since most of the time it would just be idling. I'll have to think about it, I would really like something with a backplate but I'm looking at the $150 or under price range.

Here's what I was looking at.

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Yeah I know. I might look at other GPUs, I was mainly looking at the Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 OC 4G because of all the "cheap" cards I looked at I liked how it looked the best and since it's a Gigabyte it matches the theme of the AORUS XTREME almost perfectly. I guess the extra power wouldn't be a problem since most of the time it would just be idling. I'll have to think about it, I would really like something with a backplate but I'm looking at the $150 or under price range.

Here's what I was looking at.

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Just wait for this to be back in stock like 30-40% faster

 
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Not bad for a 80€ kit, huh?

I guess going above 1866 on IF is impossible for my 3700X, people tend to have better luck with 3800X since they're better binned.
 
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Played around with ram OC on my elite today:
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Used settings from:

Only dropped voltage in UEFI to 1.42V as GB board seem to feed more than you set.

Not bad for a 80€ kit, huh?


Considering you're only 1.2 ns slower than my Bdie kits 1 seems slightly worse than the other but I am too lazy to test them separately to verify lol. I would say pretty damn good.

@TheLostSwede is right btw the new F10 bios seems a bit better.

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Considering you're only 1.2 ns slower than my Bdie kits 1 seems slightly worse than the other but I am too lazy to test them separately to verify lol. I would say pretty damn good.

@TheLostSwede is right btw the new F10 bios seems a bit better.

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Keep in mind I have four modules though, it was a bit lower with two modules, but yeah. It seems like Gigabyte or the new AGESA has improved the latency for Micron memory as well, as it used to be the worst in terms of latency. By worst, it was about 1ns slower than Hynix which in turn was was about 1ns slower than good B-dies, based various reviews.
Anything close to 65ns is about as good as you're going to get on any current RAM.
 
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Keep in mind I have four modules though, it was a bit lower with two modules, but yeah. It seems like Gigabyte or the new AGESA has improved the latency for Micron memory as well, as it used to be the worst in terms of latency. By worst, it was about 1ns slower than Hynix which in turn was was about 1ns slower than good B-dies, based various reviews.
Anything close to 65ns is about as good as you're going to get on any current RAM.

I have 4 dimms as well I can get closer to 64ns with 2 dimms my kits probably also cost $75 more so that's quite a jump in price to get under 65ns. We also have different CPU not sure how much that's a factor.
 

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Well, I'm down 0.2ns with the latest version of AIDA :p
Yeah, it just doesn't make financial sense to get that last little bit of performance for most people. At least it looks like Micron and Hynix modules are about on pair now.

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Well, I'm down 0.2ns with the latest version of AIDA :p
Yeah, it just doesn't make financial sense to get that last little bit of performance for most people. At least it looks like Micron and Hynix modules are about on pair now.

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I agree your guys kits impress me very much. As much as I like my kits they're not worth the 35$ to 40$ more per kit I paid over the 3600 17-19-19-39 viper steel kit but I would still buy them over the 3600 Neo kit that is usually only 10-20$ cheaper


My wife wanted to have RGB though eliminating most of the decent sub $100 3600 kits back in June.
 
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I would love to be able to reach that 1900Mhz, but even without my all core OC. I am not able to make it boot past the 1866MHz Infinity. I even tried raising vcore to 1.55v but that did not make i go trough. Under 1.4vcore at 1900Mhz or auto it just hangs completely. Did try to tinker with mem settings as well, but did not do any difference. Will try to do some benchmarking doing my upcomming vacation between the All core oc and just using PBO.
 
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I would love to be able to reach that 1900Mhz, but even without my all core OC. I am not able to make it boot past the 1866MHz Infinity. I even tried raising vcore to 1.55v but that did not make i go trough. Under 1.4vcore at 1900Mhz or auto it just hangs completely. Did try to tinker with mem settings as well, but did not do any difference. Will try to do some benchmarking doing my upcomming vacation between the All core oc and just using PBO.
I assume that 1.55v is for DRAM... There is no point to raise DRAM (MCLK) voltage when the issue may be the SoC (UMC*/IF**) not handling the 1900MHz.

*Unified Memory Controller (UCLK)
**Infinity Fabric (FCLK)

You could tweak the...
1) SoC voltage (1.0~1.1V default)
2) cLDO VDDP voltage (0.9V default)
3) cLDO VDDG voltage (0.95V default)

You can find it in RyzenMaster > Home page > voltage control section
I'm running them (UEFI setting) at 1.17V, 1.0V, 1.05V respectively
Also in UEFI you can "Enable" "SoC/Uncore OC mode" (disables power savings for SoC chiplet = maybe a few Watts increase) (<5W), but can help high speed

1usmus's calculator suggests tha max safe value for DRAM is 1,5V and for SoC is 1.2V. Does not provide info about cLDO VDDP/VDDG max voltage but you can see that suggests 1.1V/1.075V max settings.
What I know (from buildzoid's ZEN2 DRAM tweaking videos) is that cLDO VDDP/G cannot be greater value than SoC

Tweak at your own risk
 
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Actually 1.5 is vcore to cpu because i could not make it boot with auto nor under 1.4. But Will try the other settings
 
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