Aorus X570 Master

[TheLostSwede]

I would love to be able to reach that 1900Mhz, but even without my all core OC. I am not able to make it boot past the 1866MHz Infinity. I even tried raising vcore to 1.55v but that did not make i go trough. Under 1.4vcore at 1900Mhz or auto it just hangs completely. Did try to tinker with mem settings as well, but did not do any difference. Will try to do some benchmarking doing my upcomming vacation between the All core oc and just using PBO.

I guess you've been extremely unlucky then, as I haven't touched any Voltages apart from the RAM which is at 1.38V, up from 1.37V with two modules.
In fact, that's 0.4-0.5V below what the DRAM Calculator suggests...
I simply changed the settings and everything worked, but I guess that's the silicon lottery for you...

One questioned though, you're running your RAM at CAS 14? What if you relax it to CAS 16, does that help? Not sure you'll see any tangible benefits moving up the IF bus if it means relaxed CAS timings though.

 

[jesdals]

I guess you've been extremely unlucky then, as I haven't touched any Voltages apart from the RAM which is at 1.38V, up from 1.37V with two modules.
In fact, that's 0.4-0.5V below what the DRAM Calculator suggests...
I simply changed the settings and everything worked, but I guess that's the silicon lottery for you...

One questioned though, you're running your RAM at CAS 14? What if you relax it to CAS 16, does that help? Not sure you'll see any tangible benefits moving up the IF bus if it means relaxed CAS timings though.

I testet the ram at 4000Mhz just to be sure that they can run the XMP, without any problems. At 1900Mhz Infinity and 3800MHz memory speed, i have tried with auto xmp on/of, and CL 19 and CL 20 settings, unfortunately no luck. At my current setting memory is set as seen here:

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Yeah, my guess is your cpu just can't do 1900mhz on the infinity fabric clock my 3900x does it without me needing to change anything other than manually setting my ram to 3800 and raising my timings from 14-14-14-28 to 16-16-16 32 and Trfc from 345 to 364.

Some reviewers even have chips that struggle to hit 1800 apparently so look at the bright side it could be worse.

Your Timings are crazy good though what's your latency in something like aida?
You also have a 3800X that seems better than the majority I'd be willing to bet less than 5% can do 4.5ghz and probably even less than that.

 

[jesdals]

I assume that 1.55v is for DRAM... There is no point to raise DRAM (MCLK) voltage when the issue may be the SoC (UMC*/IF**) not handling the 1900MHz.

*Unified Memory Controller (UCLK)
**Infinity Fabric (FCLK)

You could tweak the...
1) SoC voltage (1.0~1.1V default)
2) cLDO VDDP voltage (0.9V default)
3) cLDO VDDG voltage (0.95V default)

You can find it in RyzenMaster > Home page > voltage control section
I'm running them (UEFI setting) at 1.17V, 1.0V, 1.05V respectively
Also in UEFI you can "Enable" "SoC/Uncore OC mode" (disables power savings for SoC chiplet = maybe a few Watts increase) (<5W), but can help high speed

1usmus's calculator suggests tha max safe value for DRAM is 1,5V and for SoC is 1.2V. Does not provide info about cLDO VDDP/VDDG max voltage but you can see that suggests 1.1V/1.075V max settings.
What I know (from buildzoid's ZEN2 DRAM tweaking videos) is that cLDO VDDP/G cannot be greater value than SoC

Tweak at your own risk

I am not sure how to set the value of the SoC voltage in bios, it says value have to be in hex? What did you enter there to enable 1.17?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I am not sure how to set the value of the SoC voltage in bios, it says value have to be in hex? What did you enter there to enable 1.17?

it's listed under VCORE SOC in bios.

Do not raise it over 1.2 or you could kill your imc watch it to make sure your board isn't raising it more than it should under load mine does not so yours shouldn't as well but you can never be too safe.

 

[jesdals]

Latency not that impressive

 

[oxrufiioxo]

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Latency not that impressive

yeah.... you're probably not gonna do much better than that lol I would leave it as is. 1.45 is already pretty high on the DRAM voltage.

latency is only not impressive compared to an intel system.

 

[Zach_01]

I am not sure how to set the value of the SoC voltage in bios, it says value have to be in hex? What did you enter there to enable 1.17?

You are talking about the “SOC OVERCLOCK VID” under XFR Enhancement right? You leave this alone... it set itself.
As @oxrufiioxo shows you can set it at Tweaker page. Some boards, as you see in pic, set it on auto 1.2V if nothing else has altered, and as soon you start messing with other settings drops to ~1.09V. If you set it let’s say at 1.15V and in Win you see 1.12~1.13V then you can raise SOC LLC to medium to get closer to actual setting value.

For real... less than 63ns for memory latency is the best I’ve ever seen... Dont expect to catch Intel based systems, under 50ns. This is not how it works, it’s entirely different architecture.
62.8ns is very impressive...

 

[95Viper]

Just a friendly reminder, to those who need it, to stay on topic; and, if you do not have anything to add to the discussion, then don't add it.

Thank You.
Have a good day.

 

[jesdals]

What I mis in bios is a possibility to chose to boot to a specific bios - whenever I do this, I have to make e.g. the current F5I crash and then grab the secondary bios on the rebound - is there a easier way to boot on specific bios - that i have overlooked?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

What I mis in bios is a possibility to chose to boot to a specific bios - whenever I do this, I have to make e.g. the current F5I crash and then grab the secondary bios on the rebound - is there a easier way to boot on specific bios - that i have overlooked?

The switches on the board.... I forget what page in the Manual shows how to set it to a specific bios. They're right above the post code.

 

[jesdals]

Ah - ok, shame that its not a bios option, its a pain to dismantle my case

 

[Zach_01]

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The PM_ settings are only Chipset voltages, no need to mess with those unless you fiddling with BCLK speed (100+MHz)... not recommended

 

[TheLostSwede]

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Latency not that impressive

What are you smoking That's amazing latency

 

[jesdals]

Well a small bit better in F10 bios, had to reflash because my try for 1900Mhz made me brick one bios - fortunately - F10 allows for dual flash of bioses - but did feel a bit dangerous

 

[Divide Overflow]

F11 BIOS out now.

1. Improve PCIe device compatibility
2. Improve memory compatibility

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[Zach_01]

And it’s F11 final too... I’m amazed!

 

[TheLostSwede]

F11 BIOS out now.

1. Improve PCIe device compatibility
2. Improve memory compatibility

X570 AORUS MASTER (rev. 1.0) Support | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...

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The download link isn't working for me.
No luck here either... I guess it's "coming soon"...

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They are really churning out the UEFI updates for this board.

 

[Chomiq]

Yeah, they messed something up, realtek driver also gives error.

F11 also out for Elite. Probably the same for the rest of the line. They're doing good job with keeping them all up to date.

Ps.
Is there any way to export UEFI settings to external drive, so I don't have to reset them after each update?

 

[jesdals]

I have tried to save settings as a profile to USB stick but no luck between versions

 

[Divide Overflow]

The download link isn't working for me.
No luck here either... I guess it's "coming soon"...
They are really churning out the UEFI updates for this board.

It works for me?
Yes, they are pushing these out on a regular basis.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I'm always a little worried these new bios are going to cause issues with my memory tweaking but so far so good. That kit Hardware Unboxed has makes me jealous lol.... 61ns. Considering 16GB cost more than my 32GB though I guess it should be a bit better.

 

[TheLostSwede]

It works for me?
Yes, they are pushing these out on a regular basis.

It's working now. When I replied, the file wasn't accessible on their servers.

I have tried to save settings as a profile to USB stick but no luck between versions

Yeah, they've made sure that doesn't work, since sometimes they change settings and you might run into problems if you then load an older profile.

 

[Calmmo]

Yeah i got a blue screen after re-applying my settings. Must have forgotten some tweak somewhere. I think I need to start taking pictures with how often these releases come :X
Probably because I'd forgotten powerdown enabled

 

[TheLostSwede]

Yeah i got a blue screen after re-applying my settings. Must have forgotten some tweak somewhere. I think I need to start taking pictures with how often these releases come :X
Probably because I'd forgotten powerdown enabled

You can do screen grabs in the UFEI, I think it's F12 and it's saved as a BMP to a flash drive.